Strange Graphics Problem with Epson Scan


TVeblen

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I have an Epson A810 printer and I use the Epson Scan utility that installs along with the Windows 10 driver package. The printer and scanner work great on Windows 11....... except:

When I open the Epson Scan utility I get the normal graphical interface that looks like this:
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Epson 1.jpg
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Do you see that blank space just above the Help/Configuration/Close buttons?
There are supposed to be 2 buttons there: PREVIEW and SCAN
But wait! They are there!
If I click in the area I know they exist they 'light up':
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Epson 2.jpg
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And they work too.
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Epson 3.jpg
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But closing the utility and reopening it again they are invisible again.
This also happens on a couple of the buttons in the Preview Window.

This does not happen on the Windows 10 installations.

Any ideas of what is going on?
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
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    Self Built
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    Intel i7-13700K
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    MSI PRO Z790-A WiFi
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    Corsair Vengence 5600 - 32GB
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    MS KC0405
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    Asus Prime Z390-A
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    Corsair Vengence 32GB
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    EVGA GTX1060
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    Acer 27"
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    1920 x 1080
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    Corsair RM850x
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Do you see that blank space just above the Help/Configuration/Close buttons?
There are supposed to be 2 buttons there: PREVIEW and SCAN
But wait! They are there!
If I click in the area I know they exist they 'light up'
I'd suspect your graphics driver is the issue.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
That's a good guess. That could explain it.
I wonder if there is an easy way to test that. I'm using the most current Nvidia driver now.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-13700K
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO Z790-A WiFi
    Memory
    Corsair Vengence 5600 - 32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI RTX3060 Ventus 2x 12GB
    Sound Card
    On board - Realtek ALC4080
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 27GL850
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    WD Black SN850X Nvme - 1TB
    WD Black 6TB HDD 256MB cache CMR
    WD Black 6TB HDD 128MB cache CMR
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Fractal Design - Define 7
    Cooling
    Deepcool AK400
    Keyboard
    MS KC0405
    Mouse
    MS Model 1113 / MS Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500
    Internet Speed
    940 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    I have a Case Speaker!
    I have a Blueray Disk drive!
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7-9700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z390-A
    Memory
    Corsair Vengence 32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1060
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Black Nvme 500GB
    Toshiba X300 5TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Antec P101 Silent
    Cooling
    CoolerMaster Hyper T4
    Mouse
    Logitec M-U0007
    Keyboard
    MS KC0405
    Internet Speed
    940 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Avast!
    Other Info
    I have a Case Speaker!
This is a bug in W11. Thousands of users have this - me too.
Epson will not fix it - too old SW
The simplest workaround is this:
After the Gui opened. press the left ALT key and the missing controls are there
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W10 pro 21H1
Yes, that does work. That is a good workaround. Thanks.

I found a thread on MS forums where a poster had found a patch, but the link takes you to a Japanese Epson website. It might warrant further investigation.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-13700K
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO Z790-A WiFi
    Memory
    Corsair Vengence 5600 - 32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI RTX3060 Ventus 2x 12GB
    Sound Card
    On board - Realtek ALC4080
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 27GL850
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    WD Black SN850X Nvme - 1TB
    WD Black 6TB HDD 256MB cache CMR
    WD Black 6TB HDD 128MB cache CMR
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Fractal Design - Define 7
    Cooling
    Deepcool AK400
    Keyboard
    MS KC0405
    Mouse
    MS Model 1113 / MS Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500
    Internet Speed
    940 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    I have a Case Speaker!
    I have a Blueray Disk drive!
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7-9700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z390-A
    Memory
    Corsair Vengence 32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1060
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Black Nvme 500GB
    Toshiba X300 5TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Antec P101 Silent
    Cooling
    CoolerMaster Hyper T4
    Mouse
    Logitec M-U0007
    Keyboard
    MS KC0405
    Internet Speed
    940 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Avast!
    Other Info
    I have a Case Speaker!
I just got through the entire thread. There is a patch from Epson but you have to search. It doesn't seem to be on the US website. Japan, Australia, and Europe were mentioned.
I'm going to test and I'll let y'all know.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-13700K
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO Z790-A WiFi
    Memory
    Corsair Vengence 5600 - 32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI RTX3060 Ventus 2x 12GB
    Sound Card
    On board - Realtek ALC4080
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 27GL850
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    WD Black SN850X Nvme - 1TB
    WD Black 6TB HDD 256MB cache CMR
    WD Black 6TB HDD 128MB cache CMR
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Fractal Design - Define 7
    Cooling
    Deepcool AK400
    Keyboard
    MS KC0405
    Mouse
    MS Model 1113 / MS Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500
    Internet Speed
    940 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    I have a Case Speaker!
    I have a Blueray Disk drive!
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7-9700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z390-A
    Memory
    Corsair Vengence 32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1060
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Black Nvme 500GB
    Toshiba X300 5TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Antec P101 Silent
    Cooling
    CoolerMaster Hyper T4
    Mouse
    Logitec M-U0007
    Keyboard
    MS KC0405
    Internet Speed
    940 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Avast!
    Other Info
    I have a Case Speaker!
The patch - EpsonScan_W11P_20211102_S.exe - did not work for my Artesan 810.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-13700K
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO Z790-A WiFi
    Memory
    Corsair Vengence 5600 - 32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI RTX3060 Ventus 2x 12GB
    Sound Card
    On board - Realtek ALC4080
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 27GL850
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    WD Black SN850X Nvme - 1TB
    WD Black 6TB HDD 256MB cache CMR
    WD Black 6TB HDD 128MB cache CMR
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Fractal Design - Define 7
    Cooling
    Deepcool AK400
    Keyboard
    MS KC0405
    Mouse
    MS Model 1113 / MS Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500
    Internet Speed
    940 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    I have a Case Speaker!
    I have a Blueray Disk drive!
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7-9700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z390-A
    Memory
    Corsair Vengence 32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1060
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Black Nvme 500GB
    Toshiba X300 5TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Antec P101 Silent
    Cooling
    CoolerMaster Hyper T4
    Mouse
    Logitec M-U0007
    Keyboard
    MS KC0405
    Internet Speed
    940 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Avast!
    Other Info
    I have a Case Speaker!
The patch - EpsonScan_W11P_20211102_S.exe - did not work for my Artesan 810.
Have you tried running Epson Scan in compatibility node?

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Oh yes! All the options. You should have heard me when I was stuck in 640 x 480!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-13700K
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO Z790-A WiFi
    Memory
    Corsair Vengence 5600 - 32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI RTX3060 Ventus 2x 12GB
    Sound Card
    On board - Realtek ALC4080
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 27GL850
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    WD Black SN850X Nvme - 1TB
    WD Black 6TB HDD 256MB cache CMR
    WD Black 6TB HDD 128MB cache CMR
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Fractal Design - Define 7
    Cooling
    Deepcool AK400
    Keyboard
    MS KC0405
    Mouse
    MS Model 1113 / MS Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500
    Internet Speed
    940 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    I have a Case Speaker!
    I have a Blueray Disk drive!
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    i7-9700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z390-A
    Memory
    Corsair Vengence 32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1060
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Black Nvme 500GB
    Toshiba X300 5TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Antec P101 Silent
    Cooling
    CoolerMaster Hyper T4
    Mouse
    Logitec M-U0007
    Keyboard
    MS KC0405
    Internet Speed
    940 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Avast!
    Other Info
    I have a Case Speaker!

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