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I just bought a 4K monitor. It looks great, but I still have my old Samsung 32 inch 1080p monitor hooked up and it has become rather fuzzy since hooking up the 4K. I expected some differences visually, of course, but it's a lot fuzzier than I would have suspected. I have gone through the Nvidia control panel and adjusted the resolutions, and I went into Settings -> Display and checked everything. All of it looks ok, but this is what my monitor looks like:

Screenshot 2022-07-30 133613.jpg

I'm not sure if you can see how fuzzy that is from this picture, but it used to be crystal clear.

Am I missing a setting or something?
 

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Try changing the Refresh rate 60 htz uk 50 htz usa
 

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In what order did you rehook up the monitors? I attached my 4k first and then the 1080p.. not a single issue with fuzziness
 

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I guess it is to do with the scaling as the pixels H&W will be different between the two monitors that is because your scaling is set up for the 4K monitor
 

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In what order did you rehook up the monitors? I attached my 4k first and then the 1080p.. not a single issue with fuzziness
I hooked them both up at the same time with the power off to both monitors and PC. Then I turned the 4 K on, then the 1080p, then booted the PC. I have tried other combinations with no change.

@Servo Wasn't able to figure out how to change the refresh rate. :(

@The-Hive I think you might be right, but the 1080p is supposed to autoscale IIRC. Perhaps there is a setting on that monitor that I am missing. I'll check with Samsung again but I don't really expect a lot from them, TBH.
 

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    PC/Desktop
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    Self build
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    Ryzen 5800X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite Wifi
    Memory
    32 GB GSkill Trident Neo with pretty LED lights
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
    Sound Card
    On board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung 32 inch curved - one 4K, one 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    4K, 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
    PSU
    EVGA 1000Q
    Case
    Rosewill something or other
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15. A whole schwak of Noctua case fans. $$$
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    Logitech G815
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    700 up, 600 down
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    MalwareBytes
Right click on the screen select display settings then Advanced display
 

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    Asus 570 plus
    Memory
    32
    Graphics Card(s)
    Rtx 2070
    Sound Card
    on board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    samsung 4k 28"
    Screen Resolution
    1900x1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 1 gb nvme
    PSU
    Corsair 650w
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    midi tower
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    Watercooled
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    rgb wireless
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    wireless logitech
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    Edge
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    Defender
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    Windows 11 pro
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    Amd ryzen 5 5600H (Cezanne)
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    32 gig
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    Vega
    Sound Card
    on board
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    samsung 4k
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    2 x 1tb nvme
    PSU
    12v
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    mini pc
    Cooling
    air
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    wireless logitech
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    rgb wireless
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    50m
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    edge
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    windows defender
I hooked them both up at the same time with the power off to both monitors and PC. Then I turned the 4 K on, then the 1080p, then booted the PC. I have tried other combinations with no change.

@Servo Wasn't able to figure out how to change the refresh rate. :(

@The-Hive I think you might be right, but the 1080p is supposed to autoscale IIRC. Perhaps there is a setting on that monitor that I am missing. I'll check with Samsung again but I don't really expect a lot from them, TBH.
From my very limited experience of twin monitors I think it's scaling, worth looking into anyway, let us know how you get on. btw, there is plenty of info on the web about it
 

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    Alienware M18 R1
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    13th Gen Core i9 13900HX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 @4800MHz 2x16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce RTX 4090HX 16GB
    Sound Card
    Nvidia HD / Realtek ALC3254
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18" QHD+
    Screen Resolution
    25660 X 1600
    Hard Drives
    C: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    D: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    Case
    Dark Metallic Moon
    Keyboard
    Alienware M Series per-key AlienFX RGB
    Mouse
    Alienware AW610M
    Browser
    Chrome and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Norton
    Other Info
    Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller
    Killer Killer AX1690 Wi-Fi Network Adaptor Wi-Fi 6E
    Bluetooth 5.2
    Alienware Z01G Graphic Amplifier
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware Area 51m R2
    CPU
    10th Gen i-9 10900 K
    Memory
    32Gb Dual Channel DDR4 @ 8843MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2080 Super
    Sound Card
    Nvidia
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Hard Drive C: Samsung 2TB SSD PM981a NVMe
    Hard Drive D:Samsung 2TB SSD 970 EVO Plus
    Mouse
    Alienware 610M
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton
I managed to find the setting for changing it to 50 Hz. It seems to have taken away some of the fuzziness. It's not totally great, but I think it's about as good as it's going to get.

Thanks to all, I shall mark this as solved. :)
 

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    Win 11 Pro 23H2
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build
    CPU
    Ryzen 5800X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite Wifi
    Memory
    32 GB GSkill Trident Neo with pretty LED lights
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
    Sound Card
    On board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung 32 inch curved - one 4K, one 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    4K, 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
    PSU
    EVGA 1000Q
    Case
    Rosewill something or other
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15. A whole schwak of Noctua case fans. $$$
    Keyboard
    Logitech G815
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    700 up, 600 down
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes
I hooked them both up at the same time with the power off to both monitors and PC. Then I turned the 4 K on, then the 1080p, then booted the PC. I have tried other combinations with no change.

@Servo Wasn't able to figure out how to change the refresh rate. :(

@The-Hive I think you might be right, but the 1080p is supposed to autoscale IIRC. Perhaps there is a setting on that monitor that I am missing. I'll check with Samsung again but I don't really expect a lot from them, TBH.
Hi there
sometimes these things can be changed via the hardware itself using the handset.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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