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Hi,

I'm just starting out with Win 11 (coming from 7, so not even used to 10). I realise that one person's bloat is another person's can't-live-without app, so I thought I'd just ask for recommendations on what I might remove or what you personally ditch or consider vital (are there apps that might break the OS or other parts of the system if removed?). I'd rather not do a clean install. I looked for the relevant tutorials, but can't see any. I'm a fair power user of older Windows and know the basics of uninstalling, and I'll probably use Revo or similar.

It's Win11 Pro version 21H2 on a Lenovo L390 Yoga 8th Gen CPU, 8GB RAM, nominal 500GB storage. The most taxing use will likely be editing and rendering video, editing audio in Audacity, that kind of thing. I rarely bother with games. I try to keep data creep (theft!) to a minimum, so I only use a local account, Firefox with AdBlocker Ultimate, Thunderbird, etc., and sync virtually nothing (like calendars or other data) and thus have no use for the default cloud storage (I use MEGA and local storage for backups). I use a raft of freeware replacements for most stuff. My social media is limited to Facebook, which I browse to in FF with as much locked down as possible, Google you can hardly avoid, but again, minimum share options. I have a Youtube channel and a Wordpress blog.

Actually, looking at the Start menu, there's not a lot I'm likely to keep! But there might be a lot of hidden stuff I don't know about that more experienced users get rid of. Other tips on stopping data leaks would be great too. Is it best to stick with Windows Defender, or switch to something like BitDefender for my privacy?

Cheers
John
 

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are there apps that might break the OS or other parts of the system if removed?

If there is an app that will break the OS, you won't be able to remove it. In Settings, just go under Apps -> Apps Features and you will see all the apps that you can possibly remove. If an app is not removable, you will not be given the option to remove it.

There may be some third party apps that give you greater access, but I just keep my system with the basic stuff. With some apps, I don't care if an app stays in the menu and takes up some disk space, as long as it doesn't run.

My coworkers and I did an experiment one time with a Solaris 10 Unix system. We decided to see how many packages we could remove from the system and still have it operational. We go tired of the experiment after removing over 200 packages and we still had a usable system.
 

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I'm just starting out with Win 11 (coming from 7, so not even used to 10). I realise that one person's bloat is another person's can't-live-without app, so I thought I'd just ask for recommendations on what I might remove or what you personally ditch or consider vital (are there apps that might break the OS or other parts of the system if removed?


I tend to remove just about everything I can. I use REVO Uninstaller (free).
It has a Windows Apps tab, for removing those pesky items.


You can pretty much remove all of them, except....

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Paint, Paint 3D and Calculator can also be safely removed... but I've found it better to keep them for a rainy day. :)
 

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Thanks guys, useful info. I'm starting to realise I don't know which apps I might find useful, so I'll just do it a bit ad hoc. There's a bunch I know I won't want, and then I'll also run into those that want me to sign my life away when I open them, so they'll probably get the chop.

Edited to add: What do you reckon to Windows Defender?
 

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Suggestions for Default Apps / Bloatware to Uninstall

Do consider what benefit you are hoping for.
The small amount of disk space you might reclaim is unlikely to make any difference to your computing work.

All the best,
Denis
 

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Do consider what benefit you are hoping for.
The small amount of disk space you might reclaim is unlikely to make any difference to your computing work.

All the best,
Denis
Yes, that's right. I'm hoping for the benefit of increased security, but I'm probably influenced by the Android phone experience, where apps just start up and run, call home, etc., which isn't the case here. I've only got a local account, and I use adblockers and opt-out settings. Cheers.
 

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I remove all apps except store and then I go from there. 22H2 removes all, even inbuilt apps like your phone or Cortana.

 

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Edited to add: What do you reckon to Windows Defender?
As 'bloatware' to remove? Or as an AV?
Keep it, I do. These days as an AV it ranks as high as all the major alternatives.
 

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I agree with Bree it is the only AV I have on my computer and not let me down yet at all and I use Trojan Remover software for a once weekly scan but Windows Defender on os 11 is a different beast and good.
 

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One issue about "bloatware" is not just a bloated system, but an extremely messy scatty bloated Start menu ... some show direct program shortcuts, some in folders, some folders proprietary named rather than program named .... and so it goes on.

Uninstalling solves both issues

Recommend RevoUninstaller (freeware)
- run uninstall option
- don't reboot (even if prompted)
- choose Advanced option and run cleanup (never bothered with the system restore option, always selected every item listed)
- removes leftover files/folders/registry entries
- then may have to reboot

Revo also has a separate tab for removing Windows built-in bloaters.

I want a computer for work. I didn't buy an entertainment centre. Unnecessary bells and whistles should be offered as optional extras, not in-your-face clutter.
 
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