System will not boot and GSODs


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I tried earlier to implement the following:
using KB5041876 Windows 11 Insider Beta build 22635.4082 (23H2) - Aug. 26.

Except the problem is the system will not boot and GSOD's as follows:

Anyways, I forgot to update my WinRE as I missed this part so the automatic repair doesn't work:
So is there a way to use a USB Flash Drive to update the Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE) because the fix is to:

1) Run the following commands from an elevated Windows PowerShell prompt:
Code:
# Initialize policy location
$PolicyBinary = $env:windir+"\System32\CodeIntegrity\SiPolicy.p7b"
# Remove SiPolicy.p7b
Remove-Item -Path $PolicyBinary -force

2) Reboot
3) Turn off Secure Boot in BIOS
4) Run the following from an elevated Windows PowerShell prompt:
Code:
$PolicyBinary = $env:windir+"\System32\SecureBootUpdates\SkuSiPolicy.p7b"
$MountPoint = 'C:\EFIMount'
$EFIPolicyPath = "$MountPoint\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\SkuSiPolicy.p7b"
$EFIDestinationFolder="$MountPoint\EFI\Microsoft\Boot"
$EFIPartition = (Get-Partition | Where-Object IsSystem).AccessPaths[0]
if (-Not (Test-Path $MountPoint)) { New-Item -Path $MountPoint -Type Directory -Force }
mountvol $MountPoint $EFIPartition
if (-Not (Test-Path $EFIDestinationFolder)) { New-Item -Path $EFIDestinationFolder -Type Directory -Force }
if (Test-Path   $EFIPolicyPath ) {Remove-Item -Path $EFIPolicyPath -Force }
mountvol $MountPoint /D

5) Turn on Secure Boot in BIOS and reboot

The question is what can I use to boot into Windows on a USB flash drive so I can actually do the above as it seems like basically I have to delete the files mentioned above manually to fix it.

Thanks!
 
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I've never actually thought of having Hiren's boot PE as a standby tool before but might be worth having it, you know, just in case. Then again I image my drive. :-)

 

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@Fabler2 - Is the screenshot you showed above basically the Windows ISO as when I looked at the Open Command Prompt at Boot in Windows 10 - it appears it's just booting with the Windows ISO which is basically this:

In my case, isn't the UEFI actually the BIOS itself and not the SSD since it appears to be the SkuSiPolicy.p7b according to MS's article that is the one causing the issue.

For the Macrium Recovery USB, would there be a problem if it was created from a different machine with different hardware? Thanks @Ghot for the screenshot. I am reading this thread:

I probably need to pickup some USB Flash Drives as well, what size is needed as a minimum for the latest Windows 11 ISO or for things like Hiren's boot PE or Macrium Recovery USB? Is there a issue if the capacity of the USB Flash Drive is larger than a certain size?
 
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@Fabler2 - Is the screenshot you showed above basically the Windows ISO as when I looked at the Open Command Prompt at Boot in Windows 10 - it appears it's just booting with the Windows ISO?

In my case, isn't the UEFI actually the BIOS itself and not the SSD since it appears to be the SkuSiPolicy.p7b according to MS's article that is the one causing the issue.

For the Macrium Recovery USB, would there be a problem if it was created from a different machine with different hardware? Thanks @Ghot for the screenshot. I am reading this thread:

I probably need to pickup some USB Flash Drives as well, what size is needed as a minimum for the latest Windows 11 ISO or for things like Hiren's boot PE or Macrium Recovery USB? Is there a issue if the capacity of the USB Flash Drive is larger than a certain size?
I should have really posted this link and nto be in such a hurry at times :whistle: , @Brink 's excellent tut,


USB flash drives are so cheap today I always buy 16 GB drives as the norm for these things. As for Macrium USB I partition it to Macrium on first partition (small fat 32) and data on the second partition (NTFS). Handy if you need to save a screen shot when booted to Macrium's recovery USB.

Edit, you can create any of these recovery isos from another PC.
 

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@Fabler2 - Thanks for the prompt response. Would there be problems going with something bigger than 32GB USB Flash Drives?

Never done partitions on USB Flash Drives before.
 

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would there be a problem if it was created from a different machine with different hardware?


I've never tried it, but as long as it's a Windows computer, it should be OK.
 

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It seems like the way to update the Windows Recovery Environment is:
@Brink probaly has a better tutorial on this too.

Wonder if this can be done using one of the methods mentioned above.
 

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I use Minitool as it's easy and I'm lazy... here's an example of partitioned Flash drive,

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@Fabler2 - Thanks, what I meant was I thought with Macrium Recovery USB or Hiren's boot PE, aren't both of these ISO's that gets flashed to the USB Flash Drives as one partition so do I basically flash the ISO first and then use Minitool to create the NTFS partition using the remaining available space?
 

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With Minitool I first wipe the USB to unallocated space. With Minitool create a 2GB ish Fat 32 partition for Macrium then using that partition to create the recovery drive. It wont see the rest of the drive.
Then I use Minitool to create the NTFS partition on the unallocated space left on the drive.
 

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Thanks @Fabler2 - I think I understand how it works now. Macrium or Hiren's basically gets written to the assigned drive letter instead of a physical drive as a whole which is why it works that way. Haven't written ISOs other than burning CD's which was 15+ years ago. All the current ISOs, I always just mount it.
 

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Macrium creates it's own bootable USB, the others you can use Rufus.
 

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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" QHD+ 165Hz 16:10 IPS Technology
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 PRO 2TB
    PSU
    330 Watts
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth.
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER NITRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    180 Watt, 19.5 V
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home & 🐥.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER Nitro AN16-41
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS Processor 3.2Ghz
    Motherboard
    RB Sierra_PEH (FP7)
    Memory
    32 GB DDR5 4800MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" QHD+ 165Hz 16:10 IPS Technology
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 PRO 2TB
    PSU
    330 Watts
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth.
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER NITRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    180 Watt, 19.5 V
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
Thanks @Fabler2 and @Ghot for the tips and pointers... I actually fixed this last week on the next day. I will give a quick summary.
The fix was simple:

1) Turn off Secure Boot in BIOS
2) Boot with a USB Flash Drive by hitting F12 to get to the boot menu which in my case was 128GB Sandisk USB-A and USB-C Dual Connector that had Ventoy 1.0.99 with the entire 128GB as a exfat partition and added the following as images:
Hiren's BootCD PE x64 (v1.0.8)
Macrium Rescue ISO Image created as follows:
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TuxPE v10.2 WinPE

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My Touchpad was not usable in Macrium Rescue but works fine in Hiren's BootCD PE x64 (v1.0.8) as well as TuxPE v10.2 WinPE
3) Opened Administrator Command Prompt and then ran Powershell from there.
This script was useless as the commands were complaining one way or another...
Code:
$PolicyBinary = $env:windir+"\System32\SecureBootUpdates\SkuSiPolicy.p7b"
$MountPoint = 'C:\EFIMount'
$EFIPolicyPath = "$MountPoint\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\SkuSiPolicy.p7b"
$EFIDestinationFolder="$MountPoint\EFI\Microsoft\Boot"
$EFIPartition = (Get-Partition | Where-Object IsSystem).AccessPaths[0]
if (-Not (Test-Path $MountPoint)) { New-Item -Path $MountPoint -Type Directory -Force }
mountvol $MountPoint $EFIPartition
if (-Not (Test-Path $EFIDestinationFolder)) { New-Item -Path $EFIDestinationFolder -Type Directory -Force }
if (Test-Path $EFIPolicyPath ) {Remove-Item -Path $EFIPolicyPath -Force }
mountvol $MountPoint /D

It was easier to just:
Code:
mountvol s: /s
del s:\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\SkuSiPolicy.p7b

After this, I rebooted, went into the BIOS to turn Secure Boot back on and then Reboot.

And Windows 11 works again.

The correct way to verify the version of WinRE, when it was updated and also update it is in this thread:

I will attempt to do that when I have more time.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP/7/8/8.1/10/11, Linux, Android, FreeBSD Unix
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    32GB using 2x16GB modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Case
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Cooling
    Stock
    Keyboard
    Stock
    Mouse
    SwitftPoint ProPoint
    Internet Speed
    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender that came with Windows

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