The 10-day roll back period to my previous window 10


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Concerning the ten day grace period to roll back from Win 11 to Win 10, which allows us keep all our data/apps/settings/etc.
I haven't found any reason to roll back yet... only been a few days. But like they say, "you never know what the future may bring."

Aside from having a previous clone of the Win 10 drive which would retain all your data and eliminate the need for a future clean install, or moving previously backed up data to a new clean install of Win 10, what would you do if you were forced to go back? This would be after the ten day period expires.
 

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You can give yourself more time by using dism to extend the days you have.

To see the days you have left at a command prompt: DISM /Online /Get-OSUninstallWindow

To extend the days put the number of days you wish in the brackets, don't use the brackets: DISM /Online /Set-OSUninstallWindow /Value:[days]

If I wished to go back I'd use a backup.

Edit: I should say I'd use a backup if the days had run out; if I had no backup then a clean install would be necessary from retail license or downloaded ISO.
 
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Thanks wordsworth. Interesting.. I just did DISM to see how many days I had left, and it said 10. I did the upgrade 3 days ago. I'm going to check it often between now and the end of my tenth day.

On extending it, is there any limit to it? Like if I put in 180 days? I think after about 6 months worth, I would feel better about MS support for these "incompatible hardware" type pc's.
 

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Thanks wordsworth. Interesting.. I just did DISM to see how many days I had left, and it said 10. I did the upgrade 3 days ago. I'm going to check it often between now and the end of my tenth day.

On extending it, is there any limit to it? Like if I put in 180 days? I think after about 6 months worth, I would feel better about MS support for these "incompatible hardware" type pc's.
60 days is the limit you can extend the roll back period; put a number in higher and it defaults to 10 days. I have not tried extending it again for another 60 days but you can extend the time indefinitely by renaming the folders that contain the old Win 10 files for which see this website, although this was to roll back to Windows 7 from 10 I'd expect the idea still applies.
 

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After the rollback period expires the only options you have to go back is to restore a backup of the previous OS or insert a cloned drive of the previous OS or do a clean install.
 

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wordsworth: will go with 60 days. thanks!

glasskuter: that pretty much covers it. thanks!

So far, the updates are working and it's stable on this pc....... so far.
 

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you can use DISM as @wordsworth said, the only thing I would say is do not go above 30-40 days or it won't work. From my experience using the rollback via settings>system>recovery worked perfectly on my old machine
 

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Make an image backup using Macrium Reflect Free or similar, and you can go back in 10 days, 10 weeks even 10 years (I guess 10 centuries is stretching things a bit ha ha).
 

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as @cereberus said Macrium Reflect is the way to go, as you always want to do a backup with Reflect regardless of what you do
 

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BTW if you do use DISM above 40 days use DISM /Online /Get-OSUninstallWindow to make sure it has accepted it as it doesn't like too many days for some reason.
 

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you can use DISM as @wordsworth said, the only thing I would say is do not go above 30-40 days or it won't work. From my experience using the rollback via settings>system>recovery worked perfectly on my old machine
Agree on Settings>System>Recovery and choosing “Go Back."

When you rolled back, had it been beyond the ten day window after a DISM change?

Good to know about the 30-40 days limit. Thanks
 

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Make an image backup using Macrium Reflect Free or similar, and you can go back in 10 days, 10 weeks even 10 years (I guess 10 centuries is stretching things a bit ha ha).
I'll be doing an image backup of my Win 11 partition soon with MR. My Win 10 is already backed up. Thanks.
 

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Agree on Settings>System>Recovery and choosing “Go Back."

When you rolled back, had it been beyond the ten day window after a DISM change?

Good to know about the 30-40 days limit. Thanks
I've set using mine using DISM at 60 days and as far as I know it worked. This tip from a Microsoft site:

Tip

If value passes anything <2 or >60, the default value of 10 will be set
 

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An additional method for backing up is to save the windows.old to another disk drive or the cloud.

Then restore the windows.old

 

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I just ran:

DISM /Online /Get-OSUninstallWindow

and I got:

Uninstall Window : 10
The operation completed successfully.

It shows I have 10. Doesn't DISM count down and display how many days you actually have left before the end of the roll back?
Or are we supposed to keep track of that ourselves? Just trying to understand how it works.
 

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I just ran:



and I got:

Uninstall Window : 10
The operation completed successfully.

It shows I have 10. Doesn't DISM count down and display how many days you actually have left before the end of the roll back?
Or are we supposed to keep track of that ourselves? Just trying to understand how it works.


Most of us just use backup software.
That way we don't have to even "try" to understand Microsoft's methods. :)


Get Reflect 8 Free, here: Reflect Free Edition

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Once you have a full backup, you can upgrade to Windows 11 and run it for however many days you want.
Then, if you want to go back to Windows 10, simply restore from your Windows 10 backup.



This is how I use backup software...

 
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Oh, I have backup of my Win 10 and data. :wink:

Just new to DISM.
 

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Agree on Settings>System>Recovery and choosing “Go Back."

When you rolled back, had it been beyond the ten day window after a DISM change?

Good to know about the 30-40 days limit. Thanks
I can't remember to be honest, I did it on a very old test machine.
 

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    10th Gen Core i9 10900K
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    32GB
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    Geforce RTX 2080 Super
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Hi all,

I have extended my roll back period from 10 days to 60 days.

I entered: DISM /Online /Set-OSUninstallWindow /Value:60

The operation completed successfuly.

I checked it: DISM /Online /Get-OSUninstallWindow

Uninstall Window : 60
The operation completed successfully.


I also have an image of Windows 10 that I can use to go to after the 60 days. If I should have the need to go back within the limited 60 days, my
first option will be to use the easy roll back with a few clicks.

Windows 11 is running as good as Windows 10 was here on my pc........ so all is good so far.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11/Linux Mint
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 960
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00 GHz x 2
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP x22LED
    Hard Drives
    Crucial 250 GB SSD

The-Hive

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Hi all,

I have extended my roll back period from 10 days to 60 days.

I entered: DISM /Online /Set-OSUninstallWindow /Value:60

The operation completed successfuly.

I checked it: DISM /Online /Get-OSUninstallWindow

Uninstall Window : 60
The operation completed successfully.


I also have an image of Windows 10 that I can use to go to after the 60 days. If I should have the need to go back within the limited 60 days, my
first option will be to use the easy roll back with a few clicks.

Windows 11 is running as good as Windows 10 was here on my pc........ so all is good so far.
Glad youre sorted. There is no reason at all while Windows 11 should not run as well as Windows 10 .... Enjoy
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware Area 51m R2
    CPU
    10th Gen Core i9 10900K
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce RTX 2080 Super
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 2TB P981A
    D: Samsung 2TB 970 Evo
    Mouse
    Alienware AW610M
    Browser
    Chrome and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Norton
    Other Info
    Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller
    Killer AX1650i Wi-Fi Network Adaptor
    Alienware Z01G Graphic Amplifier
    Tobii Eye Tracker
  • Operating System
    Dual Boot Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro Dev build
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 3501
    CPU
    11th Gen i-7 2.80 gb
    Memory
    16Gb
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    512Gb SSD
    2GB External drive
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton
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