TPM Question


AlanWade

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I turned the TPM in my BIOS and all is well, Win 11 installed and no problems but, and this is the bit I dont understand, I have a TMP header on my M/B so if its activated in the BIOS I am guessing that its an onboard chip if it is why the header?
My M/B is a Prime Z490-P and my CPU is an Intel Core i7 10700.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 10700 2.90GHz
    Motherboard
    Prime Z490-P
    Memory
    32 Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 34" Ultra Wide Screen.
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 on each monitor
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 120GB SATA SSD
    Crucial CT250BX100SSD1 SATA SSD
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 1TB SATA SSD
    Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB M.2 NVMe
    Samsung SSD 970 EVO 250GB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    850 Watt
    Case
    Fractal
    Cooling
    5 x 140mm fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K55
    Mouse
    Arrogant
    Internet Speed
    300MBs/100MBs
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes Pro
I have no experience with this.

However, I believe if you're using drive encryption (Bitlocker), and something happens to the MB, then the data are lost. A discrete TPM could be moved to a new motherboard.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22631.2861
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Amd Threadripper 7970X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte TRX50 Aero D
    Memory
    128GB (4 X 32) Kingston DDR5 5200 (RDIMM)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 4090 OC
    Sound Card
    none (USB to speakers), Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27E1N8900 OLED
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Crucial T700 2TB M.2 NVME SSD
    WD 4TB Blue SATA SSD
    Seagate 18TB IronWolf Pro
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 1600 GT
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo XL
    Cooling
    Alphacool Eisbaer Pro Aurora 360, with 3 Phanteks T30 fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 (wired)
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
    Internet Speed
    1200 Mbps
  • Operating System
    windows 11 22631.2861
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel I9-13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus RoG Strix Z690-E
    Memory
    64GB G.Skill DDR5-6000
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 3090 ti
    Sound Card
    built in Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus PA329C
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WDC SN850 1TB
    8 TB Seagate Ironwolf
    4TB Seagate Ironwolf
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 1300 GT
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo
    Cooling
    Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 (wired)
I turned the TPM in my BIOS and all is well, Win 11 installed and no problems but, and this is the bit I dont understand, I have a TMP header on my M/B so if its activated in the BIOS I am guessing that its an onboard chip if it is why the header?
My M/B is a Prime Z490-P and my CPU is an Intel Core i7 10700.
All you needed to do was Turn your TPM on in your bios, you don't need the actual Physical chip installed .
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro (x64) 23H2 22631.3296
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Made
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-14900KS @5.9MHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Apex Z790
    Memory
    G.Skill DDR5 - 7800 - F5-7800J3646H16X2-TZ5RK 32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition
    Sound Card
    Integrated ROG SupremeFX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@165Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 PRO 500GB - M.2 NVMe,
    Samsung 970 EVO SSD 1TB - M.2 NVMe,
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB,
    WD Black 1TB Performance Hard Drive
    PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 1200 P2 80+ PLATINUM
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Primo Special Edition
    Cooling
    ASUS ROG Ryujin II 360 RGB all-in-one liquid CPU cooler 360mm Radiator
    Keyboard
    Razer Huntsman Elite
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3 Wireless
    Internet Speed
    950 / 40
    Browser
    FireFox, and Chrome
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes Pro / Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (x64) 23H2 22631.2792
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Made
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K @5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Apex X (Z370)
    Memory
    G.Skill DDR4 F4-3200C14D - 32GBGTZSW
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA Geforce GTX 2080 Ti FTW3
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    55" LG 4K Ultra HD TV
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 PRO M.2 512GB, Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB, WD Black 1TB Performance Desktop Hard Drive
    PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G2, 80+ GOLD 850W
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro Full Tower Chassis
    Cooling
    Corsair H150i PRO RGB AIO Liquid CPU Cooler,360mm
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless Mouse
    Keyboard
    Logitech K350 Wireless
    Internet Speed
    400 / 20
    Browser
    FireFox / Chrome
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes Pro / Windows Defender / SAS Pro
Thanks for the replies, I was a little unsure about it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 10700 2.90GHz
    Motherboard
    Prime Z490-P
    Memory
    32 Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 34" Ultra Wide Screen.
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 on each monitor
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 120GB SATA SSD
    Crucial CT250BX100SSD1 SATA SSD
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 1TB SATA SSD
    Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB M.2 NVMe
    Samsung SSD 970 EVO 250GB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    850 Watt
    Case
    Fractal
    Cooling
    5 x 140mm fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K55
    Mouse
    Arrogant
    Internet Speed
    300MBs/100MBs
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes Pro
I turned the TPM in my BIOS and all is well, Win 11 installed and no problems but, and this is the bit I dont understand, I have a TMP header on my M/B so if its activated in the BIOS I am guessing that its an onboard chip if it is why the header?
My M/B is a Prime Z490-P and my CPU is an Intel Core i7 10700.

There are multiple types of TPM.


Your motherboard (and mine as well) have both firmwareTPM as well as the option to add a hardware TPM Module to the motherboard.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 Current build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor (Matte) | Eve Spectrum ES07DC9 4K Gaming Monitor (Glossy)
    Screen Resolution
    3x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) } 3x Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1 TB SSD (USB)
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420 RGB + Air 3x 140mm case fans (pull front) + 1x 120 mm (push back) and 1 x 120 mm (pull bottom)
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for Business
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
    Browser
    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable), Chrome, Edge , Arc
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB 5 Beta
  • Operating System
    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
@johnlgalt Thanks, will have a read a little later.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 10700 2.90GHz
    Motherboard
    Prime Z490-P
    Memory
    32 Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 34" Ultra Wide Screen.
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 on each monitor
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 120GB SATA SSD
    Crucial CT250BX100SSD1 SATA SSD
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 1TB SATA SSD
    Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB M.2 NVMe
    Samsung SSD 970 EVO 250GB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    850 Watt
    Case
    Fractal
    Cooling
    5 x 140mm fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K55
    Mouse
    Arrogant
    Internet Speed
    300MBs/100MBs
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes Pro
turned the TPM in my BIOS and all is well, Win 11 installed and no problems but, and this is the bit I dont understand, I have a TMP header on my M/B so if its activated in the BIOS I am guessing that its an onboard chip if it is why the header?
My M/B is a Prime Z490-P and my CPU is an Intel Core i7 10700.

That was what worried me when I bought MSI motherboard with Intel H510M chipset. I found TPM header on it. Things came up to my mind, why only a header? Do I still have to buy separate TP Modul?
Later when I run BIOS everything was there.

The TPM header turn out to be additional.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI
    CPU
    Core i5 10400
    Motherboard
    MSI H510M Pro
    Memory
    16 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Digital Alliance GTX 750 Ti
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 24 Curved
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Vi-Gen SSD NVMe 256 GB
    Seagate 2 TB
    WD 3 TB
    Seagate 4 TB
    PSU
    Infinity Striker Power
    Case
    VBR Panther
    Cooling
    Natuve
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MK270
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MK270
    Internet Speed
    2mbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    Mac OS Big Sur
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Macbook
    CPU
    Intel Core i5
    Motherboard
    Apple
    Memory
    8mb
    Hard Drives
    SSD 240gb
    Browser
    Safari
Well, I follow You tube and the guy from Canada:
, says that when it comes down to it we who do not have TPM2 and other requirements will be shut down one way or another. I have worked with Windows 11 long enough to know they are not going to let us work with our dated machines. So, I am going back to Windows 10, sorry if I disappoint anyone here. I plan on saving up and buying a proper machine, hopefully with Windows 11 installed by Christmas.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows11 Pro 23H2 Bld. 22631.3737
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Bosgame P1 EffiZen Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
    Motherboard
    AMD
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon Adrenalin Series
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sceptre E248W LED 24" Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1280 @ 75Hz
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 1TB NVME SSD System
    Western Digital 500GB WD Blue 3D NAND Internal PC SSD - SATA Backup
    Western Digital Black Ext. HD in Sabrent SCSI 1TB Archives
    PSU
    12 volt 2000mA external power supply
    Case
    Mini Computer 4.89" x 4.41" x 1.6"
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    MK-Star 75 Mechanical Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech M575 Track Ball Mouse
    Internet Speed
    367.0 Mbps Down 11.03 Mbps Up Spectrum
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Stable ver. 126.0.2592.61
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    Bluetooth 5.2 W/Phonak Hearing aids
I turned the TPM in my BIOS and all is well, Win 11 installed and no problems but, and this is the bit I dont understand, I have a TMP header on my M/B so if its activated in the BIOS I am guessing that its an onboard chip if it is why the header?
My M/B is a Prime Z490-P and my CPU is an Intel Core i7 10700.
what you are using is an fTPM (firmware TPM) which is a "software" TPM encoded into the BIOS. The header is for the hardware TPM. You can use one or the other for Win 11 purposes.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Gaming Edge Wifi (X570)
    Memory
    32GB Adata XPG DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GTX 1070 8GB ROG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Main Boot Drive : 512GB Adata XPG RGB Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA 600 Watts Gold
    Case
    Deepcool Genome II
    Cooling
    Deepcool Fryzen
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    "Moderna"
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-4790K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Xtreme6 Z97
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics card(s)
    MSI R9 290
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung M.2
    PSU
    Thermaltake 475 Watts 80 Bronze
    Case
    Thermaltake Commander I Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Deep Cool Archer Air Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Armageddon MKA-5R RGB-Hornet
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Moderna :)
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