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c98101tn

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Hi.

Is it impossible to get the launch version if my current version is this:

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NOTE: The laptop its installed on is NOT an Insider PC, nor has it ever been..
 

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    Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U
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c98101tn

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IF its not possible at all, could i possibly backup the current and reinstall the launch version, and then load the backup?
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 11
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo T14S
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphich (On-Chip)
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1. Lenovo ThinkVision P27H-20 2. Lenovo ThinkVision P27Q-20
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barman58

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As the version of Windows is Enterprise, you will need a specific type of licence - that is only available via the Microsoft Volume Licence system. The other way you could obtain a licence is through various Microsoft programs such as MVP etc.


I'm not sure of your suggestion to install a backup over a new install as this would overwrite the new install, so would not make any change
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro x64 [Latest Release Preview]
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Chillblast to my design
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 4.9GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro Motherboard
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3200MHz
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    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti - HDMI, DP
    Sound Card
    On motherboard Feeding SPDiF 5.1 system
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    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Chillblast Silent Workstation PC Case - Black
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler, Quiet Case fans Fan
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitec MX Keys + K830 [Depending on where I'm Sat]
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  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro x64 [Latest release]
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    Dell XPS 17 9700
    CPU
    i7 10750H
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    Stock
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Stock Intel + GTX 1650 Ti
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    Stock 4 speaker
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    Stock 17"
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    3840 x 2160 HDR touchscreen
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    2TB M2
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c98101tn

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As the version of Windows is Enterprise, you will need a specific type of licence - that is only available via the Microsoft Volume Licence system. The other way you could obtain a licence is through various Microsoft programs such as MVP etc.


I'm not sure of your suggestion to install a backup over a new install as this would overwrite the new install, so would not make any change
Good point with the backup.
License is not an issue, i just need the option to do an upgrade without full reinstall..
I will if necessary, but i would really prefer if i didn't have to.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo T14S
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphich (On-Chip)
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1. Lenovo ThinkVision P27H-20 2. Lenovo ThinkVision P27Q-20
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    512gb SSD
    Keyboard
    Logitech K860 Ergo
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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barman58

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As with all versions of Windows, if you update the OS it should retain the existing Data and applications, It is of course strongly advised that you fully backup the existing system, for recovery of the OS should the upgrade fail

You cannot downgrade an OS and retain the Applications and data this requires a fresh install.

The options available from Microsoft for Windows 11 Include Packaged upgrades from a previous OS, Windows 10 or Windows 8, (I believe )

Due to the stage that the OS is at, you may have a Beta copy of Windows 11 which would upgrade with the Installer option, and an inplace Upgrade using an .ISO file - these would retain data and Applications..

If you have a DEV level install of Windows 11, This cannot be Upgraded to the release version as the DEV builds are later build than the release version.

You would need to perform a fresh install and then reinstall all your applications, (and data from previous backups).

There is another option if you have a full backup of Windows 10, you could reinstall this, including the Applications and data and then upgrade this using an update installer or inplace installer in ISO form.

If you can let us know the exact details of what you have installed, including the build number, (the release version is 22000.194, so any lower number should update, but higher will need a reinstall ), we can better advise on an update route

EDIT

Re checking your attachments you are on a DEV Build so you will have to reinstall a fresh copy of the Release version, 22000.194.

You need to backup your data and reinstall this data after you have the working copy of the Release version. You will also need to reinstall all your applications and setup any external connections / hardware etc.

If you have a backup of a previous working Windows 10 you could reinstall this and upgrade this to the release version of Win11 But you would need to ensure you have the latest data backed up to bring the data up to date on completion of the upgrade
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro x64 [Latest Release Preview]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Chillblast to my design
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 4.9GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro Motherboard
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti - HDMI, DP
    Sound Card
    On motherboard Feeding SPDiF 5.1 system
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Chillblast Silent Workstation PC Case - Black
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler, Quiet Case fans Fan
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitec MX Keys + K830 [Depending on where I'm Sat]
    Mouse
    Wireless Logitec - MX Master 3 + M570 Trackball
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    Latest Chrome
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    BitDefender Total Security 2021
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    Samsung S9 Plus Smartphone
    Samsung Note S20
    Wacom Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom ExpressKey Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro x64 [Latest release]
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 17 9700
    CPU
    i7 10750H
    Motherboard
    Stock
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Stock Intel + GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    Stock 4 speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Stock 17"
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 HDR touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock Aluminium / Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock + 2 fan cooling pad
    Mouse
    Stock Trackpad
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    Stock Illuminated
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c98101tn

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As with all versions of Windows, if you update the OS it should retain the existing Data and applications, It is of course strongly advised that you fully backup the existing system, for recovery of the OS should the upgrade fail

You cannot downgrade an OS and retain the Applications and data this requires a fresh install.

The options available from Microsoft for Windows 11 Include Packaged upgrades from a previous OS, Windows 10 or Windows 8, (I believe )

Due to the stage that the OS is at, you may have a Beta copy of Windows 11 which would upgrade with the Installer option, and an inplace Upgrade using an .ISO file - these would retain data and Applications..

If you have a DEV level install of Windows 11, This cannot be Upgraded to the release version as the DEV builds are later build than the release version.

You would need to perform a fresh install and then reinstall all your applications, (and data from previous backups).

There is another option if you have a full backup of Windows 10, you could reinstall this, including the Applications and data and then upgrade this using an update installer or inplace installer in ISO form.

If you can let us know the exact details of what you have installed, including the build number, (the release version is 22000.194, so any lower number should update, but higher will need a reinstall ), we can better advise on an update route

EDIT

Re checking your attachments you are on a DEV Build so you will have to reinstall a fresh copy of the Release version, 22000.194.

You need to backup your data and reinstall this data after you have the working copy of the Release version. You will also need to reinstall all your applications and setup any external connections / hardware etc.

If you have a backup of a previous working Windows 10 you could reinstall this and upgrade this to the release version of Win11 But you would need to ensure you have the latest data backed up to bring the data up to date on completion of the upgrade
Dammit..
it was as i feared.
Well thats just how it is..
Thanks for the quick reply ;)
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo T14S
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphich (On-Chip)
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1. Lenovo ThinkVision P27H-20 2. Lenovo ThinkVision P27Q-20
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    512gb SSD
    Keyboard
    Logitech K860 Ergo
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    320Mbit/320Mbit
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barman58

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I would always recommend a clean install for any major update, such as Win10 to Win11, basically over the years I have found that Microsoft does a good job of the upgrade, but is not so good with the cleaning out of Deprecated or other unneeded code - I understand the caution that MS feel about removal of code that users may still try to use but it does set the OS in a state more likely to show the OS in a bad light and then results in the need for a clean install soon after the initial upgrade install, Better to get the pain over quickly ;)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro x64 [Latest Release Preview]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Chillblast to my design
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 4.9GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro Motherboard
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti - HDMI, DP
    Sound Card
    On motherboard Feeding SPDiF 5.1 system
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Chillblast Silent Workstation PC Case - Black
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler, Quiet Case fans Fan
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitec MX Keys + K830 [Depending on where I'm Sat]
    Mouse
    Wireless Logitec - MX Master 3 + M570 Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18.5 MB Up
    Browser
    Latest Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security 2021
    Other Info
    Also run...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64 HP 15.2"
    Nexus 7 Android tablet
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Samsung S9 Plus Smartphone
    Samsung Note S20
    Wacom Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom ExpressKey Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro x64 [Latest release]
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 17 9700
    CPU
    i7 10750H
    Motherboard
    Stock
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Stock Intel + GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    Stock 4 speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Stock 17"
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 HDR touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock Aluminium / Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock + 2 fan cooling pad
    Mouse
    Stock Trackpad
    Keyboard
    Stock Illuminated
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18.5 MB Up
    Browser
    Latest Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security 2021
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