Which of these options should I choose? I always wanted to Know :)


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Witch of these options should I choose? I always wanted to Know :)

 

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    Windows 11
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    Asus
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    i-7 10700k 3.8
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    PRIME Z-490 A
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    32gb DDR4 3200
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Illegible video at 1920x1080 res on my laptop.
 

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    Yep, Laptop has one.
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    16 GB
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    Realtek built in
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    PRIME Z-490 A
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    32gb DDR4 3200
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    Corsair K95 RGB PLATINUM XT Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
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    G502 HERO

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    Ryzen 5 5600
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    MSI B550 Tomahawk
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    Patriot Viper 4 Blackout Series 3600 2x8GB
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    XPG SX8200 240GB M.2 PCIe Gen3x4 NVMe
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    Deepcool Castle 280EX, plus 3 140 MM case fans (2 in front, 1 in rear)
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    Logitech G213 Prodigy
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    Logitech 305

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    PRIME Z-490 A
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    32gb DDR4 3200
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    RX 580
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    750
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    Corsair K95 RGB PLATINUM XT Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
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    G502 HERO
Our human ability to detect and identify sounds against a noise background is highly multidimensional. Audio perception happens on multiple different time scales so some parts of what we listen to arrive immediately whereas other parts only become apparent to us after some period of time that can take a lot longer than many think. It could take only seconds, it could take up to several many minutes. When you enter a concert hall, you'll find that you don't start to listen fully into the acoustic space right away. The brain externalizes sounds as objects and builds a map over time. When you compare sounds by rapid A/B switching between samples, this natural mechanism gets broken.

Another thing that is commonly overlooked by people who talk like they seem particularly obsessed by "teaching" us that everything sounds the same until proven otherwise is that listening to sounds also causes the brain to remember sounds and use those memories to fill in the blanks. So if, for example, you are familiar with a song you've played through your playback system a hundred times and one day you upgrade to a better system that delivers sound in better detail─it could be something as simple as moving your listening chair by a few inches changing the acoustic properties of your room and how they interact with your ears after you sit down─suddenly you might hear there's not one, but two guitars playing softly in the background. Next, when you go back to the inferior system, you'll always hear two guitars.

In addition, human stress factors may go unnoticed even though they play an important role. The simple fact that the result of an audio comparison test might turn out to be not in line with what you had expected is what causes pressure during the test. When you listen for differences between samples, your focus of attention spontaneously shifts toward those specific audio characteristics you expect to sound different between samples. So, when you listen for differences in the treble you might not be able to hear differences in the bass, etc.. It takes proper training to be able to partake in a listening test if the goal is to make it a proper test. As a matter of fact these tests are so incredibly complex that the average listener doesn't know half the basics of how to design and conduct them reliably, let alone how to correctly interpret results.

Untrained ears, poor recordings played through worse equipment, little to no knowledge about room acoustics and room acoustic treatments, no knowledge of how human hearing factually works so the science of psychoacoustics doesn't exist. I know these types of online personae, and I know many of them exceptionally well. After all these years I still keep referring to them as "audio egalitarians". lol
 

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    i7 13650HX
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    16GB DDR5
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    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
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    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
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    i5 1135G7
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    Intel Iris Xe
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
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    3840×2160
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    2TB SSD internal
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    Li-ion
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    Logitech G402
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    Logitech K800
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    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
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Nobody can advise you - in the end it comes down to your hearing.

Most people's hearing is at its most acute when young hearing up to 20,000 Hz frequencies. As people get older (50s+), it usually deteriorates to around 15,000 Hz, and even lower as you get into 60s, 70s.

Opera music is typically up to 20,000 HZ, normal music up to 15,000 HZ, speech is normally up to 10,000HZ.

Personally, I am deaf and can only hear up to about 5000 HZ which was a big problem even with standard hearing aids. I struggled to hear people with high pitched voices (most females). However, I got some special hearing aids which pick up high frequency speech and converts to lower frequencies - this was an amazing difference for me. It took me a while to get used to things sounding different - epecially singers like Roy Orbison.

So for me, it makes no difference which I choose as I cannot differentiate the differences.

There is only one way to find out - try each and choose one you are comfortable with. Doing it with headsets is probably best way, but even then you need quality headsets.


PS - it really does not matter which you choose if listening to AC/DC as it is noisy garbage no matter which you choose! Terms AC/DC and music are mutually exclusive LOL.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
I hear dead people. :-)






@firas465

48000Hz, 16 bit.
That's the default setting for a reason. If you really want to play around with that setting, do some serious research, as some have mentioned.
 

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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
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Nobody can advise you - in the end it comes down to your hearing.

Most people's hearing is at its most acute when young hearing up to 20,000 Hz frequencies. As people get older (50s+), it usually deteriorates to around 15,000 Hz, and even lower as you get into 60s, 70s.

Opera music is typically up to 20,000 HZ, normal music up to 15,000 HZ, speech is normally up to 10,000HZ.

Personally, I am deaf and can only hear up to about 5000 HZ which was a big problem even with standard hearing aids. I struggled to hear people with high pitched voices (most females). However, I got some special hearing aids which pick up high frequency speech and converts to lower frequencies - this was an amazing difference for me. It took me a while to get used to things sounding different - epecially singers like Roy Orbison.

So for me, it makes no difference which I choose as I cannot differentiate the differences.

There is only one way to find out - try each and choose one you are comfortable with. Doing it with headsets is probably best way, but even then you need quality headsets.


PS - it really does not matter which you choose if listening to AC/DC as it is noisy garbage no matter which you choose! Terms AC/DC and music are mutually exclusive LOL.
Good many GOOD Points :-)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    i-7 10700k 3.8
    Motherboard
    PRIME Z-490 A
    Memory
    32gb DDR4 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX 580
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    PSU
    750
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 RGB PLATINUM XT Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    G502 HERO

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