Why can't Ms use Bit Torrent to supply large downloads (ISO's etc)


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I can't understand why Ms can't use Bit torrent to supply ISO's, large downloads etc -- apart from reducing loads on servers it can be faster for the clients (users) too.

There's nothing wrong in using Torrents for legitimate downloads - Many Linux distros offer downloads this way -- often much quicker than using their servers - or even fast mirrors !!

Here I want an update live arch-linux iso -- iso obtained via arch-linux site ->magnet link for torrent in seconds

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Piracy shouldn't be an issue since software would have to go through normal validation process e.g activation in any case.

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Yeah, I've used Torrents in the past to get Linux distros too.

I guess with Windows.....I haven't really felt like the download process is slow using the media creation tool, or downloading directly from Microsoft. I'd say my downloads finish in the 2 to 3 minute mark on average. And Windows doesn't update all that often really, so I find that I only download something a few times a year.
 

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I don't really see the need for it either, Microsoft uses premium CDN providers so all downloads are pretty fast for me.
 

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Hi there
I suppose I was thinking of places like UUPDUMP -- downloading is fast enough but creating the ISO can take a long time on some systems. The MCT doesn't always give good results either especially on some systems which have difficulty booting iso's > approx 5GB. There's no theoretical reason why ntfs boot > 5gb should be problematical but it does seem to cause problems on some systems.

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Hi there
I suppose I was thinking of places like UUPDUMP -- downloading is fast enough but creating the ISO can take a long time on some systems. The MCT doesn't always give good results either especially on some systems which have difficulty booting iso's > approx 5GB. There's no theoretical reason why ntfs boot > 5gb should be problematical but it does seem to cause problems on some systems.

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Ummmm......the Media Creation Tool is designed so that it will always produce an ISO file that can be extracted/mounted to a FAT32 partition. The reason being is that the specification for UEFI only requires that it boot from a FAT filesystem. Some manufacturers will include NTFS support in their UEFI firmware so that the computer can boot in UEFI mode from an NTFS partition, but most manufacturers don't because it is not required by the UEFI specification.

Very few, if any, computers allow booting from an ISO file in their firmware. At least I don't know of a computer that can boot directly from an ISO file from its firmware only.
 

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I believe MS has a load sharing technology that allows a household with say, 5 different machines to be individually updated from a common download, thereby saving bandwidth on the common elements of the 5 different updates.
 

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Yes there are two levels of Delivery optimisation in Windows 10 and I assume 11

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Yes there are two levels of Delivery optimisation in Windows 10 and I assume 11

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This is just for updates though, and is really only beneficial on a larger network with a lot of PC's.

I believe the OP's topic is specifically in regard to downloading major install images.
 

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