Why, just why?!


ArthurDent

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Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631
Thinkpad T495s with Win 11 Pro 23H2 ver 22631.4112

I had configured 11 to have a start menu like Win 10.

Seems like a new update has completely re-configured the start menu - none of my tiles or shortcuts are there, nor are my list of programs.

I get this now:

New Start Menu 23H2.jpg

I'm guessing others have had this?

Why does Micro$oft insist on thinking it knows better than me how I want my computer to look.

What gives them the f******g right to do this?

This is why I HATE Micro$oft with a passion.

Can I get my old start menu back again and if so HOW??

Cheers

Ary
 
Windows Build/Version
Win 11 Pro 23H2 ver 22631.4112

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad T495s
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7Pro 3700U
    Memory
    16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radion Vega 10 Mobile 2Gb
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SK Hynix 2280 m.2 SSD, 512Gb or Crucial T500 m.2 SSD, 1Tb
    Internet Speed
    380 Mbps Fibre
Err...

Not sure. This was a few months back and I've slept since then (not helpful, I know)

Possibly Explorer Patcher?

Possibly a Registry hack??

HKEY_CURRENT_USER > 'Software' > 'Microsoft' > 'Windows' > 'Current Version' > 'Explorer' > 'Advanced'

DWORD 'Start_ShowClassicMode' > set value to 1

That make any sense?

Looked there and that key is still there and set to 1. Now I'm stumped.

Run Explorer Patcher again?

Art
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad T495s
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7Pro 3700U
    Memory
    16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radion Vega 10 Mobile 2Gb
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SK Hynix 2280 m.2 SSD, 512Gb or Crucial T500 m.2 SSD, 1Tb
    Internet Speed
    380 Mbps Fibre
What gives them the f******g right to do this?
Microsoft only sells a License to use Windows and frequently will remove any customizations, set it back to defaults.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe M.2
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
What gives them the f******g right to do this?

Probably because Windows is Microsoft's Intellectual Property, and they own a bunch of patents for Windows and other software.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi - Bios 2703
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB
    Sound Card
    External Fiio K5 Pro ESS DAC - Headphone Amplifier
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Panasonic MX950 Mini LED 55" TV 120hz
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 120hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (OS)
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Files)
    Lexar NZ790 4TB
    LaCie d2 Professional 6TB external - USB 3.1
    Seagate One Touch 18TB external HD - USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM1200x Shift
    Case
    Corsair RGB Smart Case 5000x (white)
    Cooling
    Corsair iCue H150i Elite Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Logitech K860
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
    Internet Speed
    Fibre 900/500 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    AMD Radeon Software & Drivers 24.10.1
    AOMEI Backupper Pro
    Dashlane password manager
    Logitech Brio 4K Webcam
    Orico 10-port powered USB 3.0 hub
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22631.4391
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Vivobook X1605VA
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-13900H
    Motherboard
    Asus X1605VA bios 307
    Memory
    32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel
    Graphics card(s)
    *Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7 (96EU) 32.0.101.6078
    Sound Card
    Realtek | Intel SST Bluetooth & USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.0-inch, WUXGA 16:10 aspect ratio, IPS-level Panel,
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 60hz
    Hard Drives
    512GB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 SSD
    Other Info
    720p Webcam
Thinkpad T495s with Win 11 Pro 23H2 ver 22631.4112

I had configured 11 to have a start menu like Win 10.

Seems like a new update has completely re-configured the start menu - none of my tiles or shortcuts are there, nor are my list of programs.

I get this now:

View attachment 107208

I'm guessing others have had this?

Why does Micro$oft insist on thinking it knows better than me how I want my computer to look.

What gives them the f******g right to do this?

This is why I HATE Micro$oft with a passion.

Can I get my old start menu back again and if so HOW??

Cheers

Ary
I personally like Open-Shell. Makes the menu look like W7

The latest version can be found on the Open-Shell website:
https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu/releases/latest/
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 home version 10.0.22631 Build 22631
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus/zenbook 14 UX34055MA Q425MA
    CPU
    Intel 7 ultra 155H, 3800 Mhz, 16 Cores, 22 logical proc
    Motherboard
    ASUTEK
    Memory
    16
    Hard Drives
    1TB
In B4 Ghot


There are quite a few custom Start menu programs you can use. Depending on your needs of course.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows Pro 23H2 Build 22631.4249
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 - 2 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
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What gives them the f******g right to do this?
Because it belongs to them. They own it. You don't.
Can I get my old start menu back again and if so HOW??
Not sure. This was a few months back
Whatever app you used is still on your computer. The app will have to be updated to newest version to work with this version of 11 (if its developer has released a new version)...or old version uninstalled and re-install new version.
You can expect this to happen when using a 3rd party app like that. The 3rd party developer has to change his app when MS makes certain changes to windows.

I have found it helpful more than once to keep record of all the major tweaks and changes and how I made them. My memory isn't what it used to be.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 2600.1742
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External +512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Can I get my old start menu back again and if so HOW??


Those items on the Start Menu are just "pinned" to the Start Menu".
You can right click them and choose: Unpin from Start Menu.

Then you can "Pin" the ones you want to the Start Menu.

In File Explorer, just right click the executable, for any program you want to "pin" to the Start Menu.
And then choose: "Pin to Start Menu".

You can also do the same on a desktop shortcut.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.2161 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.2161 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows Pro 23H2 Build 22631.4249
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 - 2 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.2161 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Why do you need a Start Menu?
To start Paint?
There is a PrtSc key for Snipping Tools.

It seems to me that the very concept of the Start Menu is wrong.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Microsoft Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI MS-7D98
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-13490F
    Motherboard
    MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI
    Memory
    2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G560081
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD)
    Sound Card
    Bluetooth Аудио
    Monitor(s) Displays
    INNOCN 15K1F
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WD_BLACK SN770 250GB
    KINGSTON SNV2S1000G (ELFK0S.6)
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W
    Case
    CG560 - DeepCool
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS / 2 x 140Mm Fan - rear and top; 3 x 120Mm - front
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB TKL
    Mouse
    Corsair KATAR PRO XT
    Internet Speed
    100 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender Antivirus
    Other Info
    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/66553205
Probably because Windows is Microsoft's Intellectual Property, and they own a bunch of patents for Windows and other software.
Okay, I get that Microsoft own the IP, but that still doesn't give them the right to f**** around with MY computer. If I take my car in for a service, I don't expect Ford to decide on a whim to make the steering wheel banana-shaped, radioactive green in colour and the size of a suitcase - I bet everyone would have something to say about that if they did!

If I take my car in for a service, I expect to have the gear lever, brake and accelerator pedals in the same place as they were when it went in - not some random changes made by Ford because "That's what the car should look like and we've decided to swap the brake and accelerator pedals so that they are in alphabetical order which fits in with our new corporate design philosophy!".
To

Because it belongs to them. They own it. You don't.

Perhaps Windows IP belongs to Microsoft, the computer, however, belongs to me. Pretty sure Microsoft would have nothing to do with my pc if it broke and needed a repair!
I have found it helpful more than once to keep record of all the major tweaks and changes and how I made them. My memory isn't what it used to be.
Nor mine. I thought I'd documented what I did (the registry tweak detailed above) but checking that registry key it is still there and unaltered.

Is so annoys me that we accept that Microsoft can do this.

Far, far too much power vested in one organisation that affects millions and millions of users world-wide, quite possibly billions! And NOBODY to hold them to account. Grrr!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad T495s
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7Pro 3700U
    Memory
    16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radion Vega 10 Mobile 2Gb
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SK Hynix 2280 m.2 SSD, 512Gb or Crucial T500 m.2 SSD, 1Tb
    Internet Speed
    380 Mbps Fibre
It’s OK to whine but you could probably knock off with the poorly disguised obscenities. This forum is after all setup for all ages

Far, far too much power vested in one organisation that affects millions and millions of users world-wide

It’s a start menu, not 1989. Nor is it a car. And as stated a few times, it’s their Start Menu.
Buy StartAllBack or Start11.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows Pro 23H2 Build 22631.4249
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 - 2 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
That's why it's called proprietary software, just be thankful many 3rd party utilities still work on Windows!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
I love the entitlement in some of these threads LOL, MINE MINE MINE
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    10700k@5.2
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Gaming X Z490
    Memory
    Viper Steelseries 32gb@ 3600mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte 2070 Super 8GB, +200 core + 600 memory
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 4k HDR, Two 1080p Benq and Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160/2560x1440/1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Adata XPG SX8200 PRO 1tb
    Samsung EVO 870 500GB
    PSU
    Corsair RX 650
    Case
    NZXT h510
    Cooling
    CM HYPER 212 RGB
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata Chroma
    Mouse
    Steelseries Rival 710
@ArthurDent
Might want to look up the definition of "IP".
Microsoft owns their Software, not the ip, yet.
If starting with a pentium then yourpc might still be wet behind the earls in the computing time frame.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7 Pro Retail Upgrade to Win 10 Pro, to Win11 Pro 23H2 OS Build 22631.4391
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 3 3200G with Radeon Vega Graphics
    Motherboard
    MSI B450 Tomahawk
    Memory
    Corsair DDR4 32g
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon Vega 8
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB (SATA (SSD))
    931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-00RKKA0 (SATA )
    Seagate BUP 4TB USB3 (This drive died at one year)
    (3) Seagate BUP Slim 2TB USB3
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500G USB3
    PSU
    Corsair TX 750W
    Case
    Cooler Master tower
    Cooling
    3 generic fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Backlit USB
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    T-Mobile 5G 100+ Mbs
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender and Malwarebytes Prem
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 Family Office 18029.20116
    Macrium Home 10 Subscription 8366
    Mini-Tool Ultimate
    Malwarebytes Premium 4.6.17.334
    Revo Pro Portable Pro 5.3.2
    many others (all legit)
  • Operating System
    WIN 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS
    Motherboard
    AMD
    Memory
    32G
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell
    Mouse
    MS
    Internet Speed
    200GB+
    Antivirus
    Defender Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Macrium Home Subscrption, MS 365 Family
While it's true enough that MS only leases this O/S, the point to that is one does not expect the landlord to barge in whenever they want and re-arrange the furniture, take down the pictures etc. Doing that is just plain rude.

As far as MS snooping (ie. tracking), my view is that is creepy, like peering through your bedroom window at 3am.

Of course others will disagree, but having paid the rent implies some privacy for the money.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 15s_du1xxx
    CPU
    Intel i5 10210U
    Motherboard
    85F1
    Memory
    16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
What gives them the f******g right to do this?

This is why I HATE Micro$oft with a passion.
1st, they own the software, you're only borrowing it.
2nd. Feel free to choose another OS then your problem will be over.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11 Pro 24H2 - 26100.2161
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-5820K
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99-A
    Memory
    48G Teamgroup UD4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER X34 Predator
    Screen Resolution
    3440 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    Crucial CT1000P 3P SSD8 1TB
    PSU
    GameMax Pro
    Case
    Fractal Design
    Cooling
    Corsair H110iGT
    Keyboard
    Corsair K4
    Mouse
    G-Skill G402
    Internet Speed
    50MBs
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    OEM
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