Solved Windows 11 ARM: Hyper-V and GNU/linux VM


alfredino

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Hi,
I have a laptop with windows 11 ARM and snapdragon 8cx SoC. I tried different virtual machines managers, but the only one that I was able to install is hyper-V (no virtual box or vmware, not supported CPU).
I followed the standard procedure to create a virtual machine, but I was not able to install any OS (even the default supported). I get this error.

error.jpg

The same problem is already reported here. Do you have any suggestion?
Thank you
 

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Hi,
I have a laptop with windows 11 ARM and snapdragon 8cx SoC. I tried different virtual machines managers, but the only one that I was able to install is hyper-V (no virtual box or vmware, not supported CPU).
I followed the standard procedure to create a virtual machine, but I was not able to install any OS (even the default supported). I get this error.

View attachment 51370

The same problem is already reported here. Do you have any suggestion?
Thank you
UEFI mode is a PITA for this - when you set it up to boot from iso, it only gives you about 3-4 seconds before it decides it cannot find anything, and most of that is time to load the installation screen

What you have to do is hit "action, reset", then you get enough time to click enter for the iso.

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Another method is to install the same iso twice as two separate dvds, and make sure they are 1st and second in boot order. You miss the first one but have enough time to get the second one.

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Hi,
I have a laptop with windows 11 ARM and snapdragon 8cx SoC. I tried different virtual machines managers, but the only one that I was able to install is hyper-V (no virtual box or vmware, not supported CPU).
I followed the standard procedure to create a virtual machine, but I was not able to install any OS (even the default supported). I get this error.

View attachment 51369

The same problem is already reported here. Do you have any suggestion?
Thank you
Try getting an ARM iso via UUPDUMP.
UEFI mode is a PITA for this - when you set it up to boot from iso, it only gives you about 3-4 seconds before it decides it cannot find anything, and most of that is time to load the installation screen

What you have to do is hit "action, reset", then you get enough time to click enter for the iso.

View attachment 51373

Another method is to install the same iso twice as two separate dvds, and make sure they are 1st and second in boot order. You miss the first one but have enough time to get the second one.

View attachment 51374View attachment 51375
Hi there

not quite an answer to the thread but as a matter of interest :

is it possible to "Emulate" an "ARM" install on non ARM hardware . VM's are getting so sophisticated these days that I'm sure some sort of "Virtual hardware emulation" should be possible.

Was thinking something like this :(or any KVM / QEMU distro -- although ubuntu seems to be the most advanced in this currently. Might be a nice project for this up and coming cold weekend. !!!!


also for QEMU in general :


Cheers
jimbo
 

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Hi,

I solved the problem and found something useful for people using windows ARM and hyper-v. I couldn't use any preconfigured virtual machine available (ubuntu 18-20-22 or windows msix, haven't tried windows 11 dev) with quick create on hyper-V. So I am pretty sure that hyper-v downloads the x86_64 version of the virtual machines instead of the arm version.

I was able to install ubuntu for arm and debian for arm and then any other arm-based GNU/linux distro by disabling the secure boot function in hyper-V. So the problem is solved.

secure boot.png

Thank you

P.S. I have already tried qemu-arm, but hyper-v seems better at least on windows.
 

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Hi,

I solved the problem and found something useful for people using windows ARM and hyper-v. I couldn't use any preconfigured virtual machine available (ubuntu 18-20-22 or windows msix, haven't tried windows 11 dev) with quick create on hyper-V. So I am pretty sure that hyper-v downloads the x86_64 version of the virtual machines instead of the arm version.

I was able to install ubuntu for arm and debian for arm and then any other arm-based GNU/linux distro by disabling the secure boot function in hyper-V. So the problem is solved.

View attachment 51487

Thank you

P.S. I have already tried qemu-arm, but hyper-v seems better at least on windows.
Hyper-V IS great on windows - better than vmware and vbox but a dog if you only have W10/W11 HOME. There are posts on how to enable HYPER-V on HOME on these boards though.

I find using Windows in a VM on KVM on Arch Linux for me much betterpersonally since I don't use many programs on Windows -- mainly Office (particularly EXCEL, Power point, and Outlook (email), I also use Photoshop and HediSQL for querying SQL type databases - particularly remote MariaDB databases. I use EXCEL get data functionality to use query to SAP HANA type systems on clients servers and connectivity to their corporate systems when working on their gigs.

Otherwise I find using a Linux laptop more than meets my requirements, especially with decent storage and CPU I can run serveral Windows VM's (not usually concurrently) and it's nice to have separate Windows systems and applications such as Office all in separate languages -- I use Icelandic, English (GB version), German and French. Now Ms teams also works in Linux that's fine also for remote meetings etc.

Don't get me wrong -- Windows is fine for the zillions of people who use it -- and especially considering the huge range of hardware that's thrown at it - but as the Brit's say "Horses for Courses" --if they've got any money left to bet on them judging by their newspapers. (I was over there recently and while those transport and other strikes were a nuisance - there still seemed plenty of money around so I'm sure there's a great deal of exaggeration -- and UK PLC doesn't have a monopoly of bad or incompetant politicians either. !!!!!).

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Hyper-V IS great on windows - better than vmware and vbox but a dog if you only have W10/W11 HOME. There are posts on how to enable HYPER-V on HOME on these boards though.

I find using Windows in a VM on KVM on Arch Linux for me much betterpersonally since I don't use many programs on Windows -- mainly Office (particularly EXCEL, Power point, and Outlook (email), I also use Photoshop and HediSQL for querying SQL type databases - particularly remote MariaDB databases. I use EXCEL get data functionality to use query to SAP HANA type systems on clients servers and connectivity to their corporate systems when working on their gigs.

Otherwise I find using a Linux laptop more than meets my requirements, especially with decent storage and CPU I can run serveral Windows VM's (not usually concurrently) and it's nice to have separate Windows systems and applications such as Office all in separate languages -- I use Icelandic, English (GB version), German and French. Now Ms teams also works in Linux that's fine also for remote meetings etc.

Don't get me wrong -- Windows is fine for the zillions of people who use it -- and especially considering the huge range of hardware that's thrown at it - but as the Brit's say "Horses for Courses" --if they've got any money left to bet on them judging by their newspapers. (I was over there recently and while those transport and other strikes were a nuisance - there still seemed plenty of money around so I'm sure there's a great deal of exaggeration -- and UK PLC doesn't have a monopoly of bad or incompetant politicians either. !!!!!).

Cheers
jimbo
I agree and I come from the GNU/linux world. I have never used hyper-v, only virtualbox and in the past vmware. Of course, as I have written before, in the GNU/linux world there are better alternatives than hyper-v or virtualbox.
I bought a new laptop, a lenovo IdeaPad 5G-14Q8X05 with a snapdragon 8cx gen 2 SoC which unfortunately is not supported by the linux kernel at the moment (not even version 6.1, which only supports the lenovo ThinkPad X13s very expensive big brother with 8cx gen 3 SoC). In order to be able to use GNU/linux I had to install windows 11 arm via the windows insider beta program and now, finally, I could install hyper-v and any GNU/linux distro for arm.
The main drawback I encountered is the memory consumption of Windows 11, which is double that of Windows 10, but it is the only one that supports hyper-v on the arm platform (4 GB of 8 GB are wasted by Windows 11).

Best Regards,
Alfredo
 

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I agree and I come from the GNU/linux world. I have never used hyper-v, only virtualbox and in the past vmware. Of course, as I have written before, in the GNU/linux world there are better alternatives than hyper-v or virtualbox.
I bought a new laptop, a lenovo IdeaPad 5G-14Q8X05 with a snapdragon 8cx gen 2 SoC which unfortunately is not supported by the linux kernel at the moment (not even version 6.1, which only supports the lenovo ThinkPad X13s very expensive big brother with 8cx gen 3 SoC). In order to be able to use GNU/linux I had to install windows 11 arm via the windows insider beta program and now, finally, I could install hyper-v and any GNU/linux distro for arm.
The main drawback I encountered is the memory consumption of Windows 11, which is double that of Windows 10, but it is the only one that supports hyper-v on the arm platform (4 GB of 8 GB are wasted by Windows 11).

Best Regards,
Alfredo
8 GB is really not enough RAM to efficiently run virtual machines. You need at least 4 GB for VM only leaving 4 GB for host. As an absolute minimum, I recommend 12 GB but 16 GB is better.
 

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    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
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    Yep, got one
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    Stella Artois
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    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
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    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
8 GB is really not enough RAM to efficiently run virtual machines. You need at least 4 GB for VM only leaving 4 GB for host. As an absolute minimum, I recommend 12 GB but 16 GB is better.
The laptop has soldered RAM, so I cannot expand it. On my previous system with GNU/linux the OS only used 1-1.5 GB RAM, windows 10 about 2 GB RAM, the problem is windows 11. I will only leave hyper-v open and assign 4 GB RAM to the VM.

Thank you
 

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