Solved Windows 11 Insider System Expelled from Program


GaryW

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Windows 11 Insider Preview (VM on Hyper-V), Windows 10 Pro
Have a Windows pro system that was created as a Hyper-V type one system (MBR boot) and was originally on the W10 insider program. I upgraded? it to W11 insider as soon as that program started. All was fine until the last update, then I got this message -

Kicked out of 11 Insider.jpg

The specs for this system are here -

specs for kicked out.jpg
Since this is a VM, I can easily revert back to W10 using an earlier checkpoint. When my other 11 Insider in the DEV channel went to build 22458, this one was "kicked out". I assumed that this or something similar would happen based on all of the warnings M.S. has issued.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Insider Preview (VM on Hyper-V), Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home brew
    CPU
    i7-13700 Passmark rating = 38841
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime B760M
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    System
    Sound Card
    System
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus 27" on KVM switch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 120 GB SSD system dr., 1TB Gigabyte M.2 MVNe data and 1 TB M.2 PCie @ 20 Gb/s virtual drive storage, 2 TB WD HDD
    PSU
    Thermatake 500w
    Case
    MATX Desktop
    Cooling
    fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech on KVM
    Mouse
    Logitech on KVM
    Internet Speed
    230 +/- down, 40 +/- up
    Browser
    Usually DuckDuckGo, Edge On insider Preview
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    3'rd system is a Minis Forum NAB6. Intel Core i7-12650H CPU, 10 Cores, 16 Threads. 32 GB DDR4 Memory. 500 GB NVMe PCle, 500GB SSD Passmark rating = 23683
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 & W11 Dual Boot
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Elite Mini HX90
    CPU
    AMD RYZEN 9, 5900 - 8 cores, 16 threads. Passmark rating = 345888
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    System
    Sound Card
    System
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus 27 inch + Samsung 27" on KVM
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SPCC 120 GB SSD, 1TB and 2TB WD Sata III
    Case
    Mini
    Cooling
    fans
    Mouse
    Logitech on KVM
    Keyboard
    Logitech on KVM
    Internet Speed
    230, 40 up
    Browser
    Usually DuckDuckGo, occasionally Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows
    Other Info
    Plex Server is Minis Forum UM450. AMD Ryzen5 4500U, 6 Cores, 6 Threads. Passmark Rating = 11039. Running W11 Pro. Also have 2 seldom used laptops: HP Pavilion 11M-AD113DX Laptop (W11 Capable), W10 Home, Dell Inspiron 13-5368 Laptop, W10 Home + Apple mini, circa 2012
Latest info from Microsoft is that, when using Hyper-V, Windows 11 VMs need to be set up as Generation 2. Not having used Hyper-V for a long time I'm not sure if it's possible to convert an existing VM from Generation 1 to 2, or if reinstallation is necessary.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    macOS (plus VMs: Windows XP, 7, 10 Home/Pro, 11 Home/Pro, Linux Distros)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    a) Apple MacBook Pro (Intel) - 2019 b) Apple MacBook Pro M1 MAX - 2021
    CPU
    a) Intel i9 b) M1 MAX (ARM)
    Memory
    a) 16GB b) 32GB
    Hard Drives
    a) 1TB SSD + 256GB SD Card b) 1TB SSD (+ 1TB SD Card)
    Browser
    a) Safari/Vivaldi/DuckDuckGo b) Safari/DuckDuckGo
    Antivirus
    -
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (plus VirtualBox VMs: Windows 11 Pro & Linux Distros)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    a) Microsoft Surface Book 2, b) HP Spectre X360
    CPU
    a) i7, b) i7
    Memory
    a) 16GB, b) 16GB
    Hard Drives
    a) 1TB SSD, b) 1TB SSD
    Browser
    a) MS Edge, b) MS Edge
    Antivirus
    a) Defender, b) Defender
Latest info from Microsoft is that, when using Hyper-V, Windows 11 VMs need to be set up as Generation 2. Not having used Hyper-V for a long time I'm not sure if it's possible to convert an existing VM from Generation 1 to 2, or if reinstallation is necessary.
Agreed. This particular system was created as a gen 1 when I first got involved with Hyper-V. Don't remember why a gen 1, maybe just beginner's ignorance. Anyway it doesn't matter. I just wanted to see what would happen to it, what with all of the incompatibility warnings from M. S. I still have an 11 system in the beta flight and one in the dev flight.
edit
I think there is a warning when setting a Hyper-V VM the selected generation CAN NOT be changed. When it is no longer useful as an 11 Insider, I'll just revert back to 10.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Insider Preview (VM on Hyper-V), Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home brew
    CPU
    i7-13700 Passmark rating = 38841
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime B760M
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    System
    Sound Card
    System
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus 27" on KVM switch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 120 GB SSD system dr., 1TB Gigabyte M.2 MVNe data and 1 TB M.2 PCie @ 20 Gb/s virtual drive storage, 2 TB WD HDD
    PSU
    Thermatake 500w
    Case
    MATX Desktop
    Cooling
    fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech on KVM
    Mouse
    Logitech on KVM
    Internet Speed
    230 +/- down, 40 +/- up
    Browser
    Usually DuckDuckGo, Edge On insider Preview
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    3'rd system is a Minis Forum NAB6. Intel Core i7-12650H CPU, 10 Cores, 16 Threads. 32 GB DDR4 Memory. 500 GB NVMe PCle, 500GB SSD Passmark rating = 23683
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 & W11 Dual Boot
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Elite Mini HX90
    CPU
    AMD RYZEN 9, 5900 - 8 cores, 16 threads. Passmark rating = 345888
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    System
    Sound Card
    System
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus 27 inch + Samsung 27" on KVM
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SPCC 120 GB SSD, 1TB and 2TB WD Sata III
    Case
    Mini
    Cooling
    fans
    Mouse
    Logitech on KVM
    Keyboard
    Logitech on KVM
    Internet Speed
    230, 40 up
    Browser
    Usually DuckDuckGo, occasionally Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows
    Other Info
    Plex Server is Minis Forum UM450. AMD Ryzen5 4500U, 6 Cores, 6 Threads. Passmark Rating = 11039. Running W11 Pro. Also have 2 seldom used laptops: HP Pavilion 11M-AD113DX Laptop (W11 Capable), W10 Home, Dell Inspiron 13-5368 Laptop, W10 Home + Apple mini, circa 2012

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    macOS (plus VMs: Windows XP, 7, 10 Home/Pro, 11 Home/Pro, Linux Distros)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    a) Apple MacBook Pro (Intel) - 2019 b) Apple MacBook Pro M1 MAX - 2021
    CPU
    a) Intel i9 b) M1 MAX (ARM)
    Memory
    a) 16GB b) 32GB
    Hard Drives
    a) 1TB SSD + 256GB SD Card b) 1TB SSD (+ 1TB SD Card)
    Browser
    a) Safari/Vivaldi/DuckDuckGo b) Safari/DuckDuckGo
    Antivirus
    -
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (plus VirtualBox VMs: Windows 11 Pro & Linux Distros)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    a) Microsoft Surface Book 2, b) HP Spectre X360
    CPU
    a) i7, b) i7
    Memory
    a) 16GB, b) 16GB
    Hard Drives
    a) 1TB SSD, b) 1TB SSD
    Browser
    a) MS Edge, b) MS Edge
    Antivirus
    a) Defender, b) Defender
@LeLibran - Interesting article, but it is actually only converting the drive from MBR to GPT. It goes on to say -

Quote:

Transferring VHDs to new VMs ^

Since it is not possible to convert a Gen 1 VM to a Gen 2, you must now create a new Type 2 virtual machine and connect the VHDs to it.

End Quote:

Good info though, Thanks
Gary
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Insider Preview (VM on Hyper-V), Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home brew
    CPU
    i7-13700 Passmark rating = 38841
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime B760M
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    System
    Sound Card
    System
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus 27" on KVM switch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 120 GB SSD system dr., 1TB Gigabyte M.2 MVNe data and 1 TB M.2 PCie @ 20 Gb/s virtual drive storage, 2 TB WD HDD
    PSU
    Thermatake 500w
    Case
    MATX Desktop
    Cooling
    fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech on KVM
    Mouse
    Logitech on KVM
    Internet Speed
    230 +/- down, 40 +/- up
    Browser
    Usually DuckDuckGo, Edge On insider Preview
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    3'rd system is a Minis Forum NAB6. Intel Core i7-12650H CPU, 10 Cores, 16 Threads. 32 GB DDR4 Memory. 500 GB NVMe PCle, 500GB SSD Passmark rating = 23683
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 & W11 Dual Boot
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Elite Mini HX90
    CPU
    AMD RYZEN 9, 5900 - 8 cores, 16 threads. Passmark rating = 345888
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    System
    Sound Card
    System
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus 27 inch + Samsung 27" on KVM
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SPCC 120 GB SSD, 1TB and 2TB WD Sata III
    Case
    Mini
    Cooling
    fans
    Mouse
    Logitech on KVM
    Keyboard
    Logitech on KVM
    Internet Speed
    230, 40 up
    Browser
    Usually DuckDuckGo, occasionally Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows
    Other Info
    Plex Server is Minis Forum UM450. AMD Ryzen5 4500U, 6 Cores, 6 Threads. Passmark Rating = 11039. Running W11 Pro. Also have 2 seldom used laptops: HP Pavilion 11M-AD113DX Laptop (W11 Capable), W10 Home, Dell Inspiron 13-5368 Laptop, W10 Home + Apple mini, circa 2012
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