Windows 11 Soon Will Require an MS Account and Internet Connection During Setup Like Win 11 Home


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I know that this is going to bug a lot of people. For those who are bothered by this requirement, I suggest getting familiar with a little bit of basic unattended setup to bypass this requirement.

One of the nice things about unattended setup is that you can set it up in a very granular way so you could have it create a local account for you but still allow you to manually step through other parts of setup, if you so choose.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Hi,
It will be a cold day in hell before I use a ms account for an os.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro
I don't know. I downloaded the ISO for Windows 11 and installed it just a couple days ago and had no trouble disabling my network and doing the install. Though the writing is on the wall that Microsoft wants to go down this path. It will depend on how many people object to this but my guess is very few and not enough to persuade Microsoft from doing this. It has been a huge money maker for them getting more and more people on their Cloud services and Store apps.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI Custom build
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 TI
    Internet Speed
    1 Gbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
I don't know. I downloaded the ISO for Windows 11 and installed it just a couple days ago and had no trouble disabling my network and doing the install.
Correct. This is something that is yet to occur, it is not yet happening with current builds.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Well, you won't volunteer to phone home, so....
:sneaky:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 5410
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-11320H @ up to 4.5GHz
    Motherboard
    Present
    Memory
    16GB, 2x8GB, DDR4, 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP 24mh (ext), 14.0-inch FHD (1920 x 1080)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe BC711_NVMe SK hynix
    Backups - 500GB SimpleDrive (ext), WD 750GB (ext)
    Case
    Slim
    Cooling
    Kootek Cooling Pad
    Keyboard
    Logitech K360 (ext)
    Mouse
    Logitech 510
    Internet Speed
    941.93
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender, Malwarebytes

I know that this is going to bug a lot of people. For those who are bothered by this requirement, I suggest getting familiar with a little bit of basic unattended setup to bypass this requirement.

One of the nice things about unattended setup is that you can set it up in a very granular way so you could have it create a local account for you but still allow you to manually step through other parts of setup, if you so choose.
This is mentioned in the latest DEV blog, and has already been partly enabled.

You cannot install Windows on new dev version (at least I could not) without being connected to internet.

You can still use a local account at the moment.

Even though this is not needed YET, I tested the old "enter a false email address" and after a few goes, it gave up and jumped to local account menu. However, I can see MS disabling this loophole.


It is arrogant of MS to assume all users connect to internet - many labs use pcs as dataloggers and do not want to connect to internet for security reasons.

This change is really annoying for Pro users who create VMs in Hyper-V, as each vm gets logged in devices in your online MS account if you use an MS account.

If MS are going to be that dictatorial, they could at least allow you to enter your own account name rather than creating it from your email address.

Any MS devs lurking here, grow the "b@lls" to tell your management that this is a really bad move for Pro user!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
I can understand the Internet requirement if setting up a Microsoft Account during setup.

I can also understand the Microsoft account requirement if for a WIP (Insider) build.

We'll have to wait and see if the workarounds in step 21 below will still work to set up a local account during setup for non WIP builds.

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gbps Download and 35 Mbps Upload
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Spectre x360 2in1 14-eu0098nr (2024)
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 7 155H 4.8 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Intel Arc
    Sound Card
    Poly Studio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" 2.8K OLED multitouch
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800
    Hard Drives
    2 TB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD
    Internet Speed
    Intel Wi-Fi 7 BE200 (2x2) and Bluetooth 5.4
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
My OCD just spiked. I like seeing just my user name for the folder, etc. I hated seeing my email address everywhere. I setup local then switch to my MS account.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS
    Memory
    128GB G Skill Trident Z RGB F4-3600C18-32GTZR
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX Speedster MERC310 Radeon RX 7900XT
    Sound Card
    HDMI
    Monitor(s) Displays
    SAMSUNG C27F390 X2, Samsung 55" 4k
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 990PRO W/heatsink (PCI-E 4.0 x4) 1TB and a 2TB
    8 Seagate ST6000NM0034 6TB in Raid 6
    PSU
    Corsair RM1000x
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Prime
    Cooling
    15 Enermax Squa Rgb fans Enermax Auquafusion 360 AIO
    Keyboard
    Microsoft wireless keyboard 5050
    Mouse
    Microsoft wireless mouse 5000
    Internet Speed
    Gigabit
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Norton 360
    Other Info
    4 LG WH16NS60 Blu-Ray burners flashed for 4k ripping.
    Hauppauge dual tuner tv card
    Silverstone internal flash card reader
    Dell Perc H700 Raid controller
When an internet connection is absolutely required for use microsoft produtcs, Linux will be the answer.
 

My Computer

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro & 🐥.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X509DA (FP5)
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX Vega 10 Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 1 TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2
    Internet Speed
    25 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER NITRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
    Memory
    16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    180 Watt, 19.5 V
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    25 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
I actually want to use MS account, but to my surprise during the setup yesterday, 11 created a local account instead, even though there was internet connection, since it downloaded updates. When I installed 11 last time, it used MS account automatically.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 3600 & No fTPM (07/19)
    Motherboard
    MSI B450 TOMAHAWK 7C02v1E & IFX TPM (07/19)
    Memory
    4x 8GB ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 DDR4 3200MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Radeon RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC @48FPS (08/19)
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z (11/16)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" AOC G2460VQ6 (01/19)
    Screen Resolution
    1920×1080@75Hz & FreeSync (DisplayPort)
    Hard Drives
    ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro SSD 512GB (07/19)
    PSU
    Seasonic M12II-520 80 Plus Bronze (11/16)
    Case
    Lian Li PC-7NB & 3x Noctua NF-S12A FLX@700rpm (11/16)
    Cooling
    CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12S@700rpm (07/19)
    Keyboard
    HP Wired Desktop 320K + Rabalux 76017 Parker (01/24)
    Mouse
    Logitech M330 Silent Plus (04/23)
    Internet Speed
    400/40 Mbps via RouterOS (05/21) & TCP Optimizer
    Browser
    Edge with Brave (No FB/Google) & Brave for YouTube & LibreWolf for FB
    Antivirus
    NoAV & Binisoft WFC & NextDNS
    Other Info
    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170 (09/10)
Pretty soon you won't be able to use your computer at all without an internet connection!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10/11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Well there is nothing to do on the computer when there is no internet. :yawn:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 3600 & No fTPM (07/19)
    Motherboard
    MSI B450 TOMAHAWK 7C02v1E & IFX TPM (07/19)
    Memory
    4x 8GB ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 DDR4 3200MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Radeon RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC @48FPS (08/19)
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z (11/16)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" AOC G2460VQ6 (01/19)
    Screen Resolution
    1920×1080@75Hz & FreeSync (DisplayPort)
    Hard Drives
    ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro SSD 512GB (07/19)
    PSU
    Seasonic M12II-520 80 Plus Bronze (11/16)
    Case
    Lian Li PC-7NB & 3x Noctua NF-S12A FLX@700rpm (11/16)
    Cooling
    CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12S@700rpm (07/19)
    Keyboard
    HP Wired Desktop 320K + Rabalux 76017 Parker (01/24)
    Mouse
    Logitech M330 Silent Plus (04/23)
    Internet Speed
    400/40 Mbps via RouterOS (05/21) & TCP Optimizer
    Browser
    Edge with Brave (No FB/Google) & Brave for YouTube & LibreWolf for FB
    Antivirus
    NoAV & Binisoft WFC & NextDNS
    Other Info
    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170 (09/10)
Pretty soon you won't be able to use your computer at all without an internet connection!
Always use Firewall rules - I assume with applying an image with dism one can get around this stuff - need to boot to a PE first though.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows
You don't even have to put your microsoft account when installing windows just click outside the network account and it no longer asks you for the microsoft account. That's how it is with me when I install it on other laptops or computers.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 PRO
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    AsRock
    CPU
    Ryzen Threadripper 1920x
    Motherboard
    AsRock Fatal1ty
    Memory
    Hyperx 32GB 3600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus GeForce TURBO RTX 2080Ti 11GB
    Sound Card
    matheboard and Logitech G933 Gaming Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 28"
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    ssd m2 970, 960, ssd 840 EVO 1TB, 4 x 4TB HDD
    PSU
    corsair 1200W
    Case
    big tower
    Cooling
    corsair H150IPro
    Keyboard
    logitech k800
    Mouse
    logitech G603
    Internet Speed
    download 200 Mbps upload 100 Mbps
    Browser
    Maxthon
    Antivirus
    avira
The FREE upgrade to Windows 10 was the HOOK and Windows 11 is the SINKER.... It was never about a New & Improved OS - it was always about forced market share, Data Mining and Paid subscription Apps
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows
Well there is nothing to do on the computer when there is no internet. :yawn:
I do a ton of work on the computer for which I don't necessarily need an internet connection!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10/11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
The FREE upgrade to Windows 10 was the HOOK and Windows 11 is the SINKER.... It was never about a New & Improved OS - it was always about forced market share, Data Mining and Paid subscription Apps
Without a doubt!
Keep you connected, get to know you intimately, shove all manner of cruft down your throat and empty your wallet!
That's the way of it! The magic of the internet! Gotta love it! :cool:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10/11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
The FREE upgrade to Windows 10 was the HOOK and Windows 11 is the SINKER.... It was never about a New & Improved OS - it was always about forced market share, Data Mining and Paid subscription Apps
Yep. :wink: Those that stuck with Win 7 are OK.. (not so for XP.. too many security holes) there may be many going back.. whether people will ever appreciate Linux.. IDK.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows
Hi,
Yeah credit card or some accepted form of payment for other ms services that aren't free

No big deal really there is nothing exceptional about 11 just more obnoxious demands security wise plus what ever else ms can think of later like ms account/ internet/....

I'm fine with dumping four 11 pro's and it really just saves four ssd's for other os's.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro

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