Windows 11 updates or fresh install For amd ryzen 3900x


Clayton76562

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Hey my pc amd ryzen 3900x few years old and running windows 10 for Nearley 2 half years .

As of lately pc start up very slow I was told to upgrade to win 11 but was also told that to do a fresh install .

But also to be careful the way that I do things bcos for 1 thing the “tpm” not supported for amd .

And not sure exactly the best way to do this and if it will indeed make the Pc work better
 
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    Micro-Star International Co. Ltd. MPG X570 GAMING PLUS (MS-7C37) (AM4) 26 °C
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    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
    3726GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 25 °C
    1863GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 25 °C
    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
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Hi there
@Clayton76562

First take backup of existing system so you can restore if things go wrong. Macrium Free is good but any suitable backup and restore program will do.

Now in your case I'd get the latest iso of W10 (W10 is quite decent BTW) and clean install that. - Before trying anything else see after a brand clean install whether W11 will allow an upgrade from W10 -- if it says hardware not sufficient - then unless you want to keep meddling about with trying to bypass hardware restrictions which will get tighter and tighter or go via a Virtual Machine back to a physical one then I'd stay on W10 until you get a new machine.

Get W10 from UUPDUMP,

Once you've got your base system whether W10 or W11 install all your extra stuff again.

If you really want to try W11 - you can di it easily enough as a VM as you can "emulate" the TPM and sec boot requirements and play around with the CPU configuration - although this isn't an easy task for beginners with no experience of creating or using VM's.

The latest W10 release with updates works perfectly -- it's not hugely different to W11 (at least currently) and some prefer it.

I keep a W10 release as well as several W11 releases because some workplaces software wants W10 and "They pay the bills" !!!!!.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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You may not NEED to do a clean install of either OS, unless you have some major hardware degradation it is likely the slowdown is simply due to an excess of start up apps/ services as you have installed software over the years.
If you start in safe mode or with a new user profile is it still as slow?
What type of disks are you using? If still HDDs have you ever defragmented them?
If using SSDs how full are they as they tend to slow down when reaching a certain amount of allocation (depending on model 75 - 80% full or more, as an example).
There may be other reasons for the slowdown that could be easily remedied without going through the process of clean installing, although sometimes a clean install can be the best option.
If you want the best chance of an easy time installing then I would suggest, as Jimbo45 does, that you stick with Win10 and just use the latest image, whether from UUPDUMP or using the Microsoft Media Creation Tool, either are perfectly valid options.
Things to be aware of, it might be a good idea to backup/ export your current drivers (method can be found on these forums) as well as a system image as Jimbo45 suggests.
If this machine is a laptop then depending on the age you may find the manufacturers support page lacking for drivers so check before proceeding so you are aware of any potential issues coming up.
Make sure you have all your application codes, passwords, usernames and other login details backed up for any sites/ services/ software you use.
 

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Hey my pc amd ryzen 3900x few years old and running windows 10 for Nearley 2 half years .

As of lately pc start up very slow I was told to upgrade to win 11 but was also told that to do a fresh install .

But also to be careful the way that I do things bcos for 1 thing the “tpm” not supported for amd .

And not sure exactly the best way to do this and if it will indeed make the Pc work better
No need for clean installation. I switched from FX 6350 to 4 different Ryzen models and W7/8/19 to W11 without clean install processors were always properly recognized and used.
But..... TPM has to be enabled as well as windows installed in UEFI mode on GPT disk.
Ps. TPM is supported on Ryzen 2000, 3000 and 5000 series.
 

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But also to be careful the way that I do things bcos for 1 thing the “tpm” not supported for amd .

I have Ryzen 3900x on Gigabyte Aorus Master X570 motherboard. TPM is supported and included in the firmware.
Make sure you have updated the UEFI BIOS to the latest stable version - you should find that TPM is then turned on. Otherwise, if you stick with an older BIOS you will need to root around in the UEFI to find where to turn it on.

I have also found that boot time suddenly increases about once a month or so, for no obvious reason. Reapplying the BIOS settings fixes it, and it goes back to rebooting normally.

I upgraded from Windows 10 to Windows 11 with no problem, and have recently replaced the System drive, all without doing a clean install. Everything is very stable.

Good luck.
 

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    Intel Core i7 8th Generation
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    Dell says this system is not Windows 11 capable, but Microsoft seems happy with it.

Clayton76562

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had this desktop pc for 2 and half Years running windows 10 . As of lately the pc takes 2 and a half mins before windows loads up . Then when logging in the desktop hangs and takes mins before all icons load . Then when restarting takes like 3-4 mins before it restarts .





I have had a several professional people in different ways to diagnose an issue with my problems . malware bytes techs / also seagate and wd hard hdd health checks



Paid / open source / sys internals / freeware apps to check most common issues processes start up etc



My system is connected to an icy box with 10 hard drives . 60TB all up .



When I turn the icy box off and just turn pc on it boots straight away and loads and restarts within 45 Seconds



I was told to do a test with just os c drive and ruled out the actual hdd damage



I seek more help in finding best way to go about next step . I was told to try windows 11 but the tpm with amd ryzen has the error and also says can cause more errors if trying to bypass and foodle with the bios ?



Was told a fresh install of windows should fix problems but amd ryzen bios settings and drivers and registry settings can become more issues ?
 

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    windows 10 21H2
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    AMD
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3800 39 °CMatisse 7nm Technolog
    Motherboard
    Micro-Star International Co. Ltd. MPG X570 GAMING PLUS (MS-7C37) (AM4) 26 °C
    Memory
    64.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (15-15-15-36)
    Graphics Card(s)
    KAMN32QF7TA (2560x1440@59Hz) 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER (Gigabyte) 27 °C
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    Realtek High Definition Audio NVIDIA High Definition Audio AMM Virtual Audio Device
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    kogan
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1440
    Hard Drives
    232GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 250GB (SATA (SSD)) 28 °C
    3726GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 26 °C
    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
    3726GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 25 °C
    1863GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 25 °C
    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
    1863GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 23 °C
    1863GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 20 °C

Clayton76562

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had this desktop pc for 2 and half Years running windows 10 . As of lately the pc takes 2 and a half mins before windows loads up . Then when logging in the desktop hangs and takes mins before all icons load . Then when restarting takes like 3-4 mins before it restarts .





I have had a several professional people in different ways to diagnose an issue with my problems . malware bytes techs / also seagate and wd hard hdd health checks



Paid / open source / sys internals / freeware apps to check most common issues processes start up etc



My system is connected to an icy box with 10 hard drives . 60TB all up .



When I turn the icy box off and just turn pc on it boots straight away and loads and restarts within 45 Seconds



I was told to do a test with just os c drive and ruled out the actual hdd damage



I seek more help in finding best way to go about next step . I was told to try windows 11 but the tpm with amd ryzen has the error and also says can cause more errors if trying to bypass and foodle with the bios ?



Was told a fresh install of windows should fix problems but amd ryzen bios settings and drivers and registry settings can become more issues ?
 

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    AMD
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3800 39 °CMatisse 7nm Technolog
    Motherboard
    Micro-Star International Co. Ltd. MPG X570 GAMING PLUS (MS-7C37) (AM4) 26 °C
    Memory
    64.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (15-15-15-36)
    Graphics Card(s)
    KAMN32QF7TA (2560x1440@59Hz) 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER (Gigabyte) 27 °C
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio NVIDIA High Definition Audio AMM Virtual Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    kogan
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1440
    Hard Drives
    232GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 250GB (SATA (SSD)) 28 °C
    3726GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 26 °C
    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
    3726GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 25 °C
    1863GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 25 °C
    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
    1863GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 23 °C
    1863GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 20 °C

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If you have USB connected devices at startup they can cause drastic slowdowns on boot.

Whoever told you that AMD Ryzen does not support TPM is simply wrong.
 

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    Gigabyte Aorus Master x570 rel 1.0
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    32GB (2x16) @ 3600 MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX
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    Gigabyte Windforce RTX 2080
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    No separate sound card.
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    Dell U2718Q
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    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD-Black SN850; 1TB Samsung Sata 850 Evo; 2TB WD Hard drive; 3TB WD Hard drive.
    PSU
    Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 11 750W
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    Lian Li PC-8FIB
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    CPU: Noctua NH-U12A; Case: BeQuiet + Lian Li fans.
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    Steelseries Apex 7 brown keys.
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    Internet Speed
    390 Mb/s down; 20 Mb/s up
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    Edge (Chromium)
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    Eset Internet Security
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    Pioneer blu-ray optical drive.
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    Dell Inspiron 7373 2-in-1
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 8th Generation
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    Dell 0HG1FH (U3E1)
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    Intel UHD Graphics 620 (Dell)
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    256GB Micron SATA SSD.
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Clayton76562

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Hey bro I was told that usb Aswell and checked . Would u know if win 10 or 11 with fresh install is best to proceed with ?
 

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    Micro-Star International Co. Ltd. MPG X570 GAMING PLUS (MS-7C37) (AM4) 26 °C
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    64.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (15-15-15-36)
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    KAMN32QF7TA (2560x1440@59Hz) 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER (Gigabyte) 27 °C
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    Realtek High Definition Audio NVIDIA High Definition Audio AMM Virtual Audio Device
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    232GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 250GB (SATA (SSD)) 28 °C
    3726GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 26 °C
    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
    3726GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 25 °C
    1863GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 25 °C
    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
    1863GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 23 °C
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had this desktop pc for 2 and half Years running windows 10 . As of lately the pc takes 2 and a half mins before windows loads up . Then when logging in the desktop hangs and takes mins before all icons load . Then when restarting takes like 3-4 mins before it restarts .





I have had a several professional people in different ways to diagnose an issue with my problems . malware bytes techs / also seagate and wd hard hdd health checks



Paid / open source / sys internals / freeware apps to check most common issues processes start up etc



My system is connected to an icy box with 10 hard drives . 60TB all up .



When I turn the icy box off and just turn pc on it boots straight away and loads and restarts within 45 Seconds



I was told to do a test with just os c drive and ruled out the actual hdd damage



I seek more help in finding best way to go about next step . I was told to try windows 11 but the tpm with amd ryzen has the error and also says can cause more errors if trying to bypass and foodle with the bios ?



Was told a fresh install of windows should fix problems but amd ryzen bios settings and drivers and registry settings can become more issues ?
Well, you nailed the problem, those 60TB on remote connection that has to be re-initiated every time. Other than that it's all fine.
 

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    Home brewed
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    2x8GB Kingston 3600MHz, Cl 16
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GV-R66EAGLE-8GD (AMD Rx 6600)
    Sound Card
    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x 28"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Samsung 960 evo250GB, 3x SSD SATA 2.5" 250GB, WD 2TB HDD.
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Clayton76562

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Hey bro ok is anyway u know can make faster or should I leave the system as is ?
 

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    AMD Ryzen 7 3800 39 °CMatisse 7nm Technolog
    Motherboard
    Micro-Star International Co. Ltd. MPG X570 GAMING PLUS (MS-7C37) (AM4) 26 °C
    Memory
    64.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (15-15-15-36)
    Graphics Card(s)
    KAMN32QF7TA (2560x1440@59Hz) 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER (Gigabyte) 27 °C
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio NVIDIA High Definition Audio AMM Virtual Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    kogan
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1440
    Hard Drives
    232GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 250GB (SATA (SSD)) 28 °C
    3726GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 26 °C
    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
    3726GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 25 °C
    1863GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 25 °C
    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
    7452GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 27 °C
    1863GB ASMT 2115 SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA) ) 23 °C
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As of lately the pc takes 2 and a half mins before windows loads up . Then when logging in the desktop hangs and takes mins before all icons load . Then when restarting takes like 3-4 mins before it restarts .
IMO, this indicates there is a problem within your Windows 10 installation (ie corrupted files,) Whether you stay with Windows 10 or go to 11, for sure you want to do a clean install. Here are some straightforward answers to your issue. Decide which way you want to go and follow the tutorial.

To try to fix your existing Windows 10 installation,
Open a command prompt as administrator and type sfc /scannow


To keep Windows 10

To clean install Windows 11 if your hardware is compatible. Make sure UEFI and TPM is turned on in bios before installing.

To clean install Windows 11 on incompatible hardware
 

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    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
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    DELL 0J37VM
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    32 gb
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    Benq 27
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    256 m.2 2230-256+1 tb hdd
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    Dell Optiplex 9020
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    i7-4770
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    24 gb
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    Benq 27
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I don't have nearly as much(8TB) but still keep it off but turn it on only when needed and not during BOOT process.
 

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    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    2x8GB Kingston 3600MHz, Cl 16
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    Gigabyte GV-R66EAGLE-8GD (AMD Rx 6600)
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    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x 28"
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Hey bro I was told that usb Aswell and checked . Would u know if win 10 or 11 with fresh install is best to proceed with ?
It's entirely your choice. I went with Windows 11 and it's good.

Here's my TPM status on my Ryzen PC:

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Ryzen 3900x
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Master x570 rel 1.0
    Memory
    32GB (2x16) @ 3600 MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Windforce RTX 2080
    Sound Card
    No separate sound card.
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2718Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD-Black SN850; 1TB Samsung Sata 850 Evo; 2TB WD Hard drive; 3TB WD Hard drive.
    PSU
    Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 11 750W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-8FIB
    Cooling
    CPU: Noctua NH-U12A; Case: BeQuiet + Lian Li fans.
    Keyboard
    Steelseries Apex 7 brown keys.
    Mouse
    Logitech (wired) G403
    Internet Speed
    390 Mb/s down; 20 Mb/s up
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security
    Other Info
    Pioneer blu-ray optical drive.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7373 2-in-1
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 8th Generation
    Motherboard
    Dell 0HG1FH (U3E1)
    Memory
    8GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 620 (Dell)
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Touch screen generic monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    256GB Micron SATA SSD.
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security
    Other Info
    Dell says this system is not Windows 11 capable, but Microsoft seems happy with it.

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I would think the issue is with those 10 drives and USB, check that the USB port the Icy Box is connected to is not set to save power and is on when booting.
Or, try a different USB3 port.

And as a thought, might want to check those 10 drives, may have one with problems, a bad disk can slow down the PC booting even if external to the PC.

Ryzen7 3800X here upgraded from Ryzen5 1600 and then upgraded from Win10 to Win11 and it's fine, no boot delay external drives connected or not.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 OS Build 22623.1020
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME B350-PLUS
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 @3000Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS - GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC
    Sound Card
    On Board Realtec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer KA241
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    240GB PNY CS900 SSD - OS
    2 x 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD
    1 x 500GB Crucial MX300 SSD
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001-1ER164
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM008-2FR102
    PSU
    750 Watt Corsair TX750 Plus
    Case
    Cooler Master 690 III
    Cooling
    Akasa AK98 5 Case Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270 - wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech - M185 wireless
    Internet Speed
    BT Fibre 75 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Use hardware KVM to switch monitors on three PCs and software (input director) to use mouse and keyboard on all 4 PCs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2 build 22621.898
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 3881 - modified with SFX PSU fitted internally
    CPU
    Intel i5 - 10400
    Motherboard
    Dell 032w55 version A00
    Memory
    16GB of HyperX Fury @ 2133 Mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 6GB GTX 1060.
    Sound Card
    Builtin
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER KA241
    Screen Resolution
    1920x 1080 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    256GB SK hynix NVMe
    1TB Western Digital WD10EZEX-75WN4A1
    PSU
    Modular 450 Watt Corsair SF450 Platinum ( Mod to replace the Dell 265 Watt PSU)
    Case
    Inspiron Small Desktop
    Cooling
    Dell stock cooler
    Mouse
    Dell
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    BT Fibre 75 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Use hardware KVM to switch monitors on three PCs and software (input director) to use mouse and keyboard on all 4 PCs.

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As usual it seems the OP decided to state an issue and only include system specs as windows 10, other than including his CPU in the actual post. After several replies based on 'best guess', including mine, the OP then decides to let us know he has 10 external drives connected by USB, this information being offered earlier could have saved a lot of guess work and possibly inappropriate advice.
Any one else browsing this thread and thinking of asking for help, please include your FULL system specs to both save time and get better targeted advice, as I believe you are prompted to do when you register.
Rant over. :rolleyes:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2, build: 22621.521
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Scan 3XS Custom 1700
    CPU
    Intel i7-12700K 3.6GHz Base (5.0GHz Turbo)
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Creator B660 D4
    Memory
    64GB DDR 3600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Tuff RTX 3080 10GB OC
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte G32QC 32inch 16:9 curved @2560 x 1440p 165Hz Freesync Premium Pro/ Dell SE2422H 24inch 16:9 1920 x 1080p 75Hz Freesync
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440p & 1920 x 1080p
    Hard Drives
    WD SN570 1TB NVME (Boot), Samsung 870QVO 1TB (SSD), SanDisk 3D Ultra 500Gb (SSD) x2, Seagate 3Tb Expansion Desk (Ext HDD), 2x Toshiba 1Tb P300 (Ext HDD)
    PSU
    Corsair RM1000X Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Airflow Desktop
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H150i RGB Pro XT 360mm Liquid Cooler, 3 x 120mm fans, 1x Exhaust
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    800Mbs
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Defender, Malwarebytes

CountMike

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As usual it seems the OP decided to state an issue and only include system specs as windows 10, other than including his CPU in the actual post. After several replies based on 'best guess', including mine, the OP then decides to let us know he has 10 external drives connected by USB, this information being offered earlier could have saved a lot of guess work and possibly inappropriate advice.
Any one else browsing this thread and thinking of asking for help, please include your FULL system specs to both save time and get better targeted advice, as I believe you are prompted to do when you register.
Rant over. :rolleyes:
It's enough to know that it's Ryzen 3900x system so it's compatible with W11 for sure-
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W10 and Insider Dev.+ Linux Mint
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home brewed
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    2x8GB Kingston 3600MHz, Cl 16
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GV-R66EAGLE-8GD (AMD Rx 6600)
    Sound Card
    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x 28"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Samsung 960 evo250GB, 3x SSD SATA 2.5" 250GB, WD 2TB HDD.
    Cooling
    Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360mm
    Internet Speed
    20/19 mbps

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It's enough to know that it's Ryzen 3900x system so it's compatible with W11 for sure
No, it really isn't enough. I agree with @DigitalGoat. We have to know what we are dealing with BEFORE we can give the right advice. Compatibility with 11 was not all the OP was interested in. If his boot is slow someone would have advised him right off the bat to first disconnect external drives and see if it made a difference (It would)...had we had that information.

Regarding clean installing 10 or 11, we would have advised him is to disconnect all the external drives before attempting a clean install. Not doing so could have gotten him into a world of hurt.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2 22621.819
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 m.2 2230-256+1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 21H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium

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Unless your current OS is running perfectly, I would do a clean install.
A clean install is really easy and fast since W10 and W11. It's hard to beat that option.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22621.900 ♦♦♦♦♦♦22H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4201)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

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No, it really isn't enough. I agree with @DigitalGoat. We have to know what we are dealing with BEFORE we can give the right advice. Compatibility with 11 was not all the OP was interested in. If his boot is slow someone would have advised him right off the bat to first disconnect external drives and see if it made a difference (It would)...had we had that information.

Regarding clean installing 10 or 11, we would have advised him is to disconnect all the external drives before attempting a clean install. Not doing so could have gotten him into a world of hurt.
Why complicate such simple thing.
Ryzen 3900x system is completely compatible with W10 and 11. W10 Settings > Windows update will show if it's eligible or not. It's enough to start upgrade from there and W11 will be downloaded and upgraded. No need to disconnect anything even in case of clean install as it will not even been seen by installation routine.
Slow BOOT is due to external storage, no matter what, upgrade or clean install and I already advised him to keep it off until really needed.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W10 and Insider Dev.+ Linux Mint
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home brewed
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    2x8GB Kingston 3600MHz, Cl 16
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GV-R66EAGLE-8GD (AMD Rx 6600)
    Sound Card
    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x 28"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Samsung 960 evo250GB, 3x SSD SATA 2.5" 250GB, WD 2TB HDD.
    Cooling
    Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360mm
    Internet Speed
    20/19 mbps

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