Windows corrupts every external HDD I use for backup purposes!


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The issues is happening since I was using Win10 and now on Win11.
My backups are stored on an external WD Blue 4TB HDD conncted via USB3 cable (F: drive).

The HDD is used only for backups.
I used Macrium Reflect and now I use EaseUS backup for system backups and Bvckup2 for selective folder backups.
Each software is using a dedicated folder on the same HDD.

It seems that after a few reboots, my external HDDs (I replaced 4 HDDs!!!) are getting corrupted! It can't be that all 4 NEW HDDs are corrupted.

It mafinests itself as losing permission to access the drive. Once I grant myself access, all my backed up files are gone.
I also get an error message saying the the recycle bin on my F: drive is corrupted.

I ran the usual:
CHCKDSK F: /f
sfc /scannow

I am at lost here. I've been struggling with this issue for a couple of years now.
I changed backup softwares, I changed from Win10 to Win11. I changed HDDs... I don't know what else to do and what is causing this.

Please help!
 
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Windows 11 Pro Version 22H2 Installed on ‎06/‎10/‎2022 OS build 22621.1485 Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

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@Gil80

Are you using the same external enclosure, when you try those different drives?
If so... the problem may be with the enclosure and not the drives.
 

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Hi,
Indeed more info about the enclosure.
 

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Mine started having issues sorta like that and it was a bad cable, I guess plugin it in and out so much
 

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Execute Chkdsk X: /r command to scan for bad sectors and repair hard drive.


Use CrystalDiskInfo utility to view its health report. CrystalDiskInfo

Try different USB port.
 

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Whatever it is, I do not think it's windows. I think it's hardware related...overclocking, cable, enclosure, usb bus, usb port, an under or over performing power supply causing electrical issues, even the house circuit you have it plugged into(example: you have it plugged into a loaded circuit with a dishwasher or refrigerator, or defective flourescent lights.
 

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Ghot said:
@Gil80

Are you using the same external enclosure, when you try those different drives?
If so... the problem may be with the enclosure and not the drives.
Click to expand...
I actually swapped 3 different kinds of enclosures. Is there an enclosure you can recommend on from Amazon?
 

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Gil80 said:
I actually swapped 3 different kinds of enclosures. Is there an enclosure you can recommend on from Amazon?
Click to expand...


I agree that ALL the drives can't be bad.

That means the problem has to be in the enclosure(s), cable(s), or as you posted... Windows.

The enclosure and cable are easiest things to test (swap out). If you eliminate those as a possibility, then we can work on Windows itself.
 

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FreeBooter said:
Execute Chkdsk X: /r command to scan for bad sectors and repair hard drive.


Use CrystalDiskInfo utility to view its health report. CrystalDiskInfo

Try different USB port.
Click to expand...
Code: 
C:\Users\Gil>checkdsk f: /r
'checkdsk' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Users\Gil>chkdsk f: /r
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is Backup WD Blue.

Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ...
  127744 file records processed.
File verification completed.
 Phase duration (File record verification): 582.83 milliseconds.
  0 large file records processed.
 Phase duration (Orphan file record recovery): 1.15 milliseconds.
  0 bad file records processed.
 Phase duration (Bad file record checking): 0.36 milliseconds.

Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ...
  3 reparse records processed.
  127798 index entries processed.
Index verification completed.
 Phase duration (Index verification): 198.16 milliseconds.
  0 unindexed files scanned.
 Phase duration (Orphan reconnection): 4.90 milliseconds.
  0 unindexed files recovered to lost and found.
 Phase duration (Orphan recovery to lost and found): 0.64 milliseconds.
  3 reparse records processed.
 Phase duration (Reparse point and Object ID verification): 1.44 milliseconds.

Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ...
Security descriptor verification completed.
 Phase duration (Security descriptor verification): 2.88 milliseconds.
  27 data files processed.
 Phase duration (Data attribute verification): 0.21 milliseconds.

Stage 4: Looking for bad clusters in user file data ...
  127728 files processed.
File data verification completed.
 Phase duration (User file recovery): 39.09 minutes.

Stage 5: Looking for bad, free clusters ...
  842646984 free clusters processed.
Free space verification is complete.
 Phase duration (Free space recovery): 2.11 hours.

Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.
No further action is required.

   3815445 MB total disk space.
 536115684 KB in 22 files.
       144 KB in 29 indexes.
         0 KB in bad sectors.
    312939 KB in use by the system.
     65536 KB occupied by the log file.
   3291589 MB available on disk.

      4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
 976754175 total allocation units on disk.
 842646984 allocation units available on disk.
Total duration: 2.77 hours (9975907 ms).
 

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Gil80 said:
Code: 
C:\Users\Gil>checkdsk f: /r
'checkdsk' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Users\Gil>chkdsk f: /r
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is Backup WD Blue.

Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ...
  127744 file records processed.
File verification completed.
 Phase duration (File record verification): 582.83 milliseconds.
  0 large file records processed.
 Phase duration (Orphan file record recovery): 1.15 milliseconds.
  0 bad file records processed.
 Phase duration (Bad file record checking): 0.36 milliseconds.

Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ...
  3 reparse records processed.
  127798 index entries processed.
Index verification completed.
 Phase duration (Index verification): 198.16 milliseconds.
  0 unindexed files scanned.
 Phase duration (Orphan reconnection): 4.90 milliseconds.
  0 unindexed files recovered to lost and found.
 Phase duration (Orphan recovery to lost and found): 0.64 milliseconds.
  3 reparse records processed.
 Phase duration (Reparse point and Object ID verification): 1.44 milliseconds.

Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ...
Security descriptor verification completed.
 Phase duration (Security descriptor verification): 2.88 milliseconds.
  27 data files processed.
 Phase duration (Data attribute verification): 0.21 milliseconds.

Stage 4: Looking for bad clusters in user file data ...
  127728 files processed.
File data verification completed.
 Phase duration (User file recovery): 39.09 minutes.

Stage 5: Looking for bad, free clusters ...
  842646984 free clusters processed.
Free space verification is complete.
 Phase duration (Free space recovery): 2.11 hours.

Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.
No further action is required.

   3815445 MB total disk space.
 536115684 KB in 22 files.
       144 KB in 29 indexes.
         0 KB in bad sectors.
    312939 KB in use by the system.
     65536 KB occupied by the log file.
   3291589 MB available on disk.

      4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
 976754175 total allocation units on disk.
 842646984 allocation units available on disk.
Total duration: 2.77 hours (9975907 ms).
Click to expand...
Looks good, are you disconnecting external HDD without Safely Remove Hardware icon.

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Gil80 said:
No, it's always connected.
Click to expand...
Then like others say it's faulty enclosure if all HDDs are connected to same enclosure.

How about testing the external HDD with Live Ubuntu USB flash drive if the same happens with Ubuntu then we will know it's the faulty enclosure or cable.

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ubuntu.com ubuntu.com
 

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What about the USB connection on the computer itself or its related driver?

Denis
 
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Try3 said:
What about the USB connection on the computer itself or its related driver?

Denis
Click to expand...
I'm not experiencing issues with other USB devices, but then again, I don't run storage devices using USB connections other than said external HDD.
Is there a USB diagnostic tool?
How can I provide info on my USB connections?
 

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FreeBooter said:
Then like others say it's faulty enclosure if all HDDs are connected to same enclosure.

How about testing the external HDD with Live Ubuntu USB flash drive if the same happens with Ubuntu then we will know it's the faulty enclosure or cable.

ubuntu.com

Create a bootable USB stick with Rufus on Windows | Ubuntu

Ubuntu is an open source software operating system that runs from the desktop, to the cloud, to all your internet connected things.
ubuntu.com ubuntu.com
Click to expand...
I don't mind giving it a shot but this is my 3rd enclosure. I doubt that the other two were faulty as well.
I was stupid to throw away WD Red 4TB because I thought it was faulty.
 

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Windows 11 Home x64 Version 25H2 Build 26200....
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Windows 11 Home x64 Version 25H2 Build 26200.8037

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