Would you buy from the first batch of Windows 11 computers?

Haydon · Jul 15, 2021

The first batch of Windows 11 computers will presumably be on sale this yearend holiday season. Would you buy one?

Pros and cons in my case:

Pros: My main desktop tower came with Windows 8.1, upgraded to Windows 10 Pro, but it cannot be upgraded to Windows 11 (4th generation i7, no TPM) I do like the 'peace of mind' benefits of TPM, especially dTPM, in light of ever growing concerns about security.

Cons: The computer runs well, and will probably still run well until 2025.

What about you?

Ghot · Jul 15, 2021

Haydon said:
The first batch of Windows 11 computers will presumably be on sale this yearend holiday season. Would you buy one?

Pros and cons in my case:

Pros: My main desktop tower came with Windows 8.1, upgraded to Windows 10 Pro, but it cannot be upgraded to Windows 11 (4th generation i7, no TPM) I do like the 'peace of mind' benefits of TPM, especially dTPM, in light of ever growing concerns about security.

Cons: The computer runs well, and will probably still run well until 2025.

What about you?

A lot of computers that can't run Windows 11... are running Windows 11 right now.
You might want to check the 1st post in this topic...

How to pass the Windows 11 Compatibility Checks

Haydon · Jul 15, 2021

I had teething angst and waited until 3 years after RTM before upgrading to Windows 10. But in 20/20 hindsight, there was little reason for the teething angst, I should have upgraded right after RTM and would have enjoyed 3 more years of a better OS. Similarly, after reading many posts of Insiders, I have Windows 11 teething angst, perhaps unjustified. I am undecided. Hence, the poll I posted, I like your pros and cons, too.

barman58 · Jul 15, 2021

I would never buy a computer on sale for the holiday season, they're invariably built down to a price, they will also in this case likely to be running a New untried OS ( though Microsoft may well only release free upgrade options for this holiday season as there are a lot of potential issues to solve by the time the OS would need to be ready for inclusion in "Holiday Sales" )

If I had to purchase a new device I would explicitly state that it would ship with Windows 10 Pro, (Never "Home" ) but would be Windows 11 "Ready", (which of course all PCs shipped in the last few years should already be anyway

Bree · Jul 15, 2021

Haydon said:
The first batch of Windows 11 computers will presumably be on sale this yearend holiday season. Would you buy one?

The first batch of 'Windows 11 ready' computers (although they didn't know it at the time) were built several years ago, when Intel 8th gen or later processors and TPM 2.0 started to become commonplace. I've already started looking at the prices of used laptops from that era with a view to buying. So yes, I suppose I would

Haydon · Jul 15, 2021

barman58 said:
If I had to purchase a new device I would explicitly state that it would ship with Windows 10 Pro, (Never "Home" ) but would be Windows 11 "Ready", (which of course all PCs shipped in the last few years should already be anyway

Why not buy a Windows 11 Certified computer rather than Windows 11 Ready computer?

Bree · Jul 15, 2021

Haydon said:
Why not buy a Windows 11 Certified computer rather than Windows 11 Ready computer?

As far as I am aware there is no such official term as 'Windows 11 Certified'. All OEMs, including Microsoft themselves only say their current machines come with a 'free upgrade to Windows 11'.

The term 'Windows 11 ready' has no official meaning either, but is increasingly seen on retailers' websites - it's just a 'marketing' ploy.

barman58 · Jul 15, 2021

Haydon said:
Why not buy a Windows 11 Certified computer rather than Windows 11 Ready computer?

I never buy an off the shelf item, so certification would need to be performed on each component individually as I specify them, It would be extremely unlikely that anything I specified would not be certified eventually but this takes time to do properly so would delay build and dispatch

Ghot · Jul 15, 2021

barman58 · Jul 15, 2021

Just for giggles ...

My latest Windows 10 specified Desktop checked with WhyNotWin11

Bree · Jul 15, 2021

For a real belly-laugh - possibly my least appropriate machine for Windows 11....

(what does it mean by 'False GB'? There's a whole 2GB of RAM, I'll have you know!)

barman58 · Jul 15, 2021

One other thing to be aware of is that the device specs to run the current Windows 11 insider builds, are less strict than the original stated requirements, these may or may not be changed at the release of the OS

BunnyJ · Jul 15, 2021

I would likely build my own new PC rather than buying one off of the shelve. Having built them in the past I know how to do it and I feel confident in building a PC, desktop. For me there's no need to buy one someone else slapped together.

YMMV

barman58 · Jul 15, 2021

Jeff, I always used to build my own, but I worked for a long time in the industry specifying and often building systems for Industrial customers. Truth is I always enjoyed the specification phase more than the build, so have lately been speccing what I want and letting the specialist PC building companies do the build. Of course I still add Hard drives and specialist PCIe cards myself which keeps the cost down a little

BunnyJ · Jul 15, 2021

barman58 said:
Jeff, I always used to build my own, but I worked for a long time in the industry specifying and often building systems for Industrial customers. Truth is I always enjoyed the specification phase more than the build, so have lately been speccing what I want and letting the specialist PC building companies do the build. Of course I still add Hard drives and specialist PCIe cards myself which keeps the cost down a little

I enjoy specking them out also.. but for some reason I like putting them together. Where I live there aren't any shops to go to that would build mine and I would have to make a long drive to get to one. My previous guy only charged 80 bucks to get the job done and that was a great deal but he's closed.

For me since my new build would be a rather basic PC it's not hard to put it together plus I have two helpers to get it done.. Milo and Phoebe love to supervise. LOL

Haydon · Jul 15, 2021

Microsoft certification does count for something, IMHO, especially for the first batch. Also brand name. Which brand(s) would you trust the most 'to get it right the first time'?

Bree · Jul 15, 2021

Haydon said:
Microsoft certification does count for something, IMHO, especially for the first batch. Also brand name.

Microsoft have a Certification program for IT professionals, and another one for 'Microsoft-certified solution providers'. I don't believe they are in the business of certifying every OEM built machine for them - that's the OEM's responsibility, and they already say that their machines will upgrade to Windows 11.

ShamrockRig · Jul 15, 2021

Haydon said:
The first batch of Windows 11 computers will presumably be on sale this yearend holiday season. Would you buy one?

Pros and cons in my case:

Pros: My main desktop tower came with Windows 8.1, upgraded to Windows 10 Pro, but it cannot be upgraded to Windows 11 (4th generation i7, no TPM) I do like the 'peace of mind' benefits of TPM, especially dTPM, in light of ever growing concerns about security.

Cons: The computer runs well, and will probably still run well until 2025.

What about you?

Nope, Main reason being i dont buy prebuilt PC's.

BunnyJ · Jul 15, 2021

Oh.. good news.. I found a PC shop in my town!! YES!!!!

Winuser · Jul 15, 2021

I use to go to the local computer shows. I would spec out what I wanted and they would build it while I waited. Now the closest is in Laurel Maryland. What I do now is buy the custom built desktops from Micro Center.

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