I have a suspicion that Microsoft does not like us messing with their new Baby Co-Pilot?

Flashorn · Apr 6, 2024

I hate this guy but...

Elon Musk's Neuralink brain implant to ultimately help humans merge with AI is sparking debate over safety and ethics

Elon Musk's Neuralink wants its brain chip to help treat neurological conditions, and, in the long term, to reduce the risks AI poses to humankind.

www.businessinsider.com

cereberus · Apr 6, 2024

Flashorn said:
AI is not all that bad when competent people work their magic with it.
I think medical community will have the best come out of this. Most
likely the space community as well but, for us mere mortals well, time
will tell.

When will people get it. There is no such thing as Artificial Intelligence.

All we are seeing is INCORRECT bollards branding of advanced computer techniques with a much sexier name than "Computer Aided Heuristic Learning Techniques" or whatever.

Artifical Intelligence will only arise when computers become sentient.

Flashorn · Apr 6, 2024

cereberus said:
Artifical Intelligence will only arise when computers become sentient

Which might be sooner than you think.

Senecio · Apr 6, 2024

cereberus said:
There is no such thing as Artificial Intelligence.

It is extremely difficult to define what 'intelligence' is. A simple (and inevitably unsatisfactory) definition, might be 'the ability to solve NEW problems quickly'. The 'quickly' is needed, because individuals with 'less intelligence' may also solve the new problem eventually, but clearly, in humans a person who solves the problem more quickly is seen as more intelligent.
With regard to what we have at the moment, I suppose that the problems being solved are more to do with having a big database of previous examples, rather than anything actually 'new'.
I'm not convinced that intelligence has anything to do with sentience.

John

antspants · Apr 6, 2024

I think advising people to turn off notifications regarding Microsoft account warnings is a bad idea.

Cowboy · Apr 6, 2024

steveg said:
Why I like my local account.

me too :))

Cowboy · Apr 6, 2024

Senecio said:
It is extremely difficult to define what 'intelligence' is. A simple (and inevitably unsatisfactory) definition, might be 'the ability to solve NEW problems quickly'. The 'quickly' is needed, because individuals with 'less intelligence' may also solve the new problem eventually, but clearly, in humans a person who solves the problem more quickly is seen as more intelligent.
With regard to what we have at the moment, I suppose that the problems being solved are more to do with having a big database of previous examples, rather than anything actually 'new'.
I'm not convinced that intelligence has anything to do with sentience.

John

but its easy to define what's Artificial. Remember the gaming nonsense; gaming chair, gaming mouse, gaming pencil, etc, ad nauseam. Now its AI this, that, and the other. AI is going to eat us alive

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Senecio · Apr 6, 2024

Cowboy said:
Remember the gaming nonsense; gaming chair, gaming mouse, gaming pencil, etc, ad nauseam. Now its AI this, that, and the other.

Yes, the marketing folks will make exaggerated claims in order to sell more product. Another reason to wait for a bit.

Ghot · Apr 6, 2024

Senecio said:
Yes, the marketing folks will make exaggerated claims in order to sell more product. Another reason to wait for a bit.

The thing that worries me about Copilot the most, is that MS generously "gave" it to Android and iOS.
That's so out of character for MS, that it's... scary. ^^

Possible reasons...

1. It's not really worth anything.
2. It's such a piece of junk that everyone should share in the misery it will bring.

Senecio · Apr 6, 2024

Ghot said:
The thing that worries me about Copilot the most, is that MS generously "gave" it to Android and iOS.
That's so out of character for MS, that it's... scary. ^^

You're surely not implying that it might be a 'trojan horse' are you?

cereberus · Apr 6, 2024

Flashorn said:
Which might be sooner than you think.

Not a snowballs chance in hell.

Ghot · Apr 6, 2024

Senecio said:
You're surely not implying that it might be a 'trojan horse' are you?

Well, I added some possible "reasons" for MS's generosity, to my post above.

But I won't deny that the thought crossed my mind.
I guess if a bunch of Greeks start climbing out of it, we'll know for sure.

I'm sure of one thing though... I'm not putting it on my phone.

Wisewiz · Apr 6, 2024

antspants said:
I think advising people to turn off notifications regarding Microsoft account warnings is a bad idea.

Edit: @antspants was referring to my earlier post suggestion,
"I’ve seen that notification, too, and when I clicked in the notification, it offered me Turn off notifications from System. I did, and have never seen it again."

Well, I agree in general, my friend, but this "Warning" is only about the fact that the user is not logged in on their MS account. It's just part of the widespread campaign by MS to have us all in their "system" all the time. In this set of settings,

I only have Snipping, Chrome, Suggested, Print, Startup, and "Security and Maintenance" turned off. If something is really amiss with security, or the PC needs some kind of important maintenance, Windows doesn't hesitate to post warnings, and doesn't need the Notifications center to do it with. OP's "warning" is just an extension of MS's position that you should

Senecio · Apr 6, 2024

Ghot said:
Possible reasons...

1. It's not really worth anything.
2. It's such a piece of junk that everyone should share in the misery it will bring.

Or maybe they want to lull us all into a false sense of security, and the wider the reach, the more they achieve that aim.

Ghot · Apr 6, 2024

Senecio said:
Or maybe they want to lull us all into a false sense of security, and the wider the reach, the more they achieve that aim.

I think it's kind of like telemetry. You can "create" things with Copilot.
And MS can see and probably grab a copy of any of it.

Senecio · Apr 6, 2024

Ghot said:
I killed Copilot, and I feel no remorse.

Even Capt. Kirk doesn't like AI...

Yes, but Exocomps...

glasskuter · Apr 6, 2024

I'm not a copilot proponent by any means. I've disposed of it everywhere but in the upper right corner of Edge which I do not normally uses as my browser either. But I can say, there's been several instances where I had something my searching could not give me clear answers for, I resorted to co-pilot and it's answers either cleared up my mis-understanding or at least gave me ideas that steered me in the right direction. We're witnessing it at it's birth. Another generation on down the road, I have no doubt the world will run on it. Us older folks will never know if it will save the world or turn on us and become it's nemesis.

TairikuOkami · Apr 6, 2024

Even when you disable copilot in Windows/Edge, it still tries to do it's job, just like Bing. I block it via DNS, just to be sure.

BobOmb · Apr 6, 2024

Ghot said:
Without a human somewhere, testing these AI batch files... there will be problems. Bet on it. ^^

I havent used it for anything other than curiosity yet, but I’m impressed, to say the least

JAM83 · Apr 6, 2024

EClaptonXRoads said:
As far as I can tell the new AI Co-pilot program is suppose to help group members in the 365 family work more efficient. However I am a family of one in regards to 365 Family. All Co-pilot does for me is take up precious space on my taskbar. I found out I could make the Icon disappear on my taskbar and disable it. Which I did. Today I get a warning through the notifications section that something is amiss with my Microsoft Accounts. First time I have ever seen this warning. I now think it is related to me cutting off Microsoft's new baby Co-pilot. The warning did go away. I may just turn Co-pilot back on if I get that notification warning from Microsoft again.

MS can kiss my, well ya know. .. . All this AI stuff is crap. I will never use it by any means. . . Well I guess, never say never, but still.