After 24H2 I can no longer install W11 Virtual Machine?!


Doyler

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I tried to install another W11Pro in VirtualBox and Hyper-V and they both said that the system would not support W11? Well I have windows 11 Pro as my base os and it works fine. I have also installed other Virtuals without problem. Although, I updated to 24H2 yesterday...any ideas?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP All-In-One
    Motherboard
    ED
    Memory
    12gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD
    Sound Card
    Generic USB Audio
In Hyper-V, vhdx file needs to be at least 64GB, TPM enabled and a minimum number of 2CPU cores set. The latter one is one that often catches people out.

Also it must be a gen 2 vm.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
In Hyper-V, vhdx file needs to be at least 64GB, TPM enabled and a minimum number of 2CPU cores set. The latter one is one that often catches people out.

Also it must be a gen 2 vm.
Hey cereberus, but that is all correct and I just tried a Quick Create and got the same error. Any other thoughts?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP All-In-One
    Motherboard
    ED
    Memory
    12gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD
    Sound Card
    Generic USB Audio
I tried to install another W11Pro in VirtualBox and Hyper-V and they both said that the system would not support W11? Well I have windows 11 Pro as my base os and it works fine. I have also installed other Virtuals without problem. Although, I updated to 24H2 yesterday...any ideas?
Did you get any error message / event log etc of what the problem was -- I suspect two areas here that might be a problem -- secure boot not enabled on the VM in its config or on the host machine, and lack of an EFI partition on the Guest's Virtual disk.

@cereberus - have you managed to install a Windows guest on Hyper-V from a vhdx file (native) -- I just don't see how the Hypervisor can boot the VM without a bootloader - even if the hypervisor can natively read vhdx files.

I haven't been able to make it work yet -- I've done it via the old "Classical way" of creating a Guest virtual disk drive with an EFI partition on it and the vhdx windows file (easier to test with a single vhdx file) , attaching it as a vdisk, assigning a volume letter and installing the bootloader on the "virtual" efi partition -- but if you can do the whole kybosh from the vhdx file -- !!!

Cheers
jimbo
 

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    2 X Intel i7
@cereberus - have you managed to install a Windows guest on Hyper-V from a vhdx file (native) -- I just don't see how the Hypervisor can boot the VM without a bootloader - even if the hypervisor can natively read vhdx files.


Cheers
jimbo
Dead easy with Macrium Reflect.

1) clone host EFI partition on windows Host on to small blank vhdx.

2) Boot vm to Macrium Reflect iso, with efi vhdx and separate native boot vhdx attached

3) Use Reflect "fix windows boot issue" option

4) Restart vm, removing Macrium Reflect iso.


Alternatively, slightly harder as you need to use mess around with partitions but you end up with only 1 vhdx drive.

1) Make image backup of EFI on host PC using Macrium Reflect

2) Mount native boot vhdx on host, shrink C drive slightly and restore host EFI to native boot vhdx. EFI can be after C drive, or you can move around with minitool to get efi in front of E Drive.

3) Boot vm to Macrium Reflect iso, with vhdx attached

4) Use Reflect "fix windows boot issues" option.

5) Restart vm, removing Macrium Reflect iso.

In either case, vhdx can be natively booted or vm booted.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Dead easy with Macrium Reflect.

1) clone host EFI partition on windows Host on to small blank vhdx.

2) Boot vm to Macrium Reflect iso, with efi vhdx and separate native boot vhdx attached

3) Use Reflect "fix windows boot issue" option

4) Restart vm, removing Macrium Reflect iso.


Alternatively, slightly harder as you need to use mess around with partitions but you end up with only 1 vhdx drive.

1) Make image backup of EFI on host PC using Macrium Reflect

2) Mount native boot vhdx on host, shrink C drive slightly and restore host EFI to native boot vhdx. EFI can be after C drive, or you can move around with minitool to get efi in front of E Drive.

3) Boot vm to Macrium Reflect iso, with vhdx attached

4) Use Reflect "fix windows boot issues" option.

5) Restart vm, removing Macrium Reflect iso.

In either case, vhdx can be natively booted or vm booted.
Thanks
Will give it a go.


Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7

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