Solved AUDIRVĀNA (and other audio related chitchat)


There is a palpable warmth with Audirvana!

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@Edwin,

Are you previewing Audirvana again, or did you buy this time.
 

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Cool.

I've not touched it since my first trial at the beginning of this thread. I thought about giving it another try, even downloaded the app, but I just never went back. That's not to say anything bad about it, I'm just too comfortable with JRiver.

How are you liking it now?
 

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How are you liking it now?
The audio is smooth, almost pristine!

I find the UI a bit sluggish.

I don't like that it takes exclusive control over the default output device..., makes it impossible to A/B it against foobar through the same device! :(
 

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What do you mean by exclusive control?
 

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I got around to comparing Audirvana and JRiver using the computer and audio setup as per post #960 above. I listened using my Sennheiser HD600 audiophile headphones.

I used this recording for the comparison. One version was 24bit 192 and the other was a SACD version in DSD64 format.
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Audirvana vs JRiver2.png Audirvana vs JRiver3.png

The difference in the sound between 192khz and SACD DSD64 was marked with the latter much more detailed (as one would expect).

The differences between Audirvana and JRiver were small with the latter more neutral, Audirvana is a tad warmer.
Re Audirvana vs JRiver overall. Audirvana is much easier to install and configure. JRiver is rather complex to setup but does have much superior tools for managing metadata (tags) for audio files.

One final comment. The sound built into modern motherboards is now much improved but cannot compete with a good DAC/amplifier. Mine is a name brand but not an expensive one.
 
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Audio settings, customization of metadata. I've been using JRiver for years so I'm not a novice with this app.
 

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You can't engage another audio device while Audirvana is playing.
OK, that's what I thought you meant. You can try un-ticking "Give exclusive mode application priority" and see if that works.

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There may also be a similar setting in Audirvana. Maybe. I personally prefer the player to take exclusive control, but that's me.
 

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Audio settings, customization of metadata. I've been using JRiver for years so I'm not a novice with this app.
Neither am I and I too have been using it for years (since version 21).

Anyway, the default setting are good for 99 percent of users. Other than choosing the sound output driver as ASIO for my DAC, everything else is pretty much default. But then again, I run external DACs.

Was just curious that's all.
 

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Neither am I and I too have been using it for years (since version 21).

Anyway, the default setting are good for 99 percent of users. Other than choosing the sound output driver as ASIO for my DAC, everything else is pretty much default. But then again, I run external DACs.

Was just curious that's all.

@Dru2
I'm one of the 1%. If I do a reinstall of Windows, I install JRiver and use the backup feature to restore my settings quickly.
 

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You can try un-ticking "Give exclusive mode application priority"
Tried both of those..., the result is that Audirvana refuses to work!!!

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Actually, it's getting to be a real p-i-t-a!
Unlocking doesn't even work at times...

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It won't release the device unless I actually close Audirvana!!! 🤷‍♂️

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Yeah. That sucks :(

I'm sure you did this, but I'm gonna say it anyway in case ....

Make sure you're choosing the sound device that Audirvana is using for sound when un-ticking the boxes I showed.
 
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    Corsair Link Titan 280 RX RGB
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1TB Download. 512mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.4391)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon (Gen 12)
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 7 165U vPro® Processor
    Motherboard
    Vendor
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X-6400MHz (Soldered)
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" 2.8K OLED, Anti Reflection, Touch, HDR 500, 400 nits, 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 Performance TLC Opal
    PSU
    Vendor
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    Touchpad: Haptic Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, Black with Fingerprint Reader and WWAN
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    202. Build Your Own laptop.
    vPro Certified Model: vPro Enterprise
Overall:
• The flat audio is superior, depending on the file source and the gear it's going through.
(I do like to EQ some music, though, especially older, vintage tracks)
• I find the UI nice looking but clumsy and sluggish.
• If Audirvana was my Go-to, I'd probably live with the output exclusivity.
• The price is not worth it when foobar and other freebies come so close...

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Gear:
PC out > AudioQuest DAC,
to an NAD Monitor Series 1600 Preamp,
to a Mirage SS1000 Powered Sub,
to a pair of Edifier R1700 speakers

My 2 Test Tracks:

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
So now, I'm gonna enjoy this Stanley Clarke gem from 1975! Hope y'all have a pleasant evening/day!

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
@Dru2
I'm one of the 1%. If I do a reinstall of Windows, I install JRiver and use the backup feature to restore my settings quickly.
I do the same and why I backup (in JRiver) on a regular basis. And yes, I do have some customized settings - skin, EQ (when used) (y)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (Build 26100.3476)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel Core 9 Ultra
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z890 Xtreme AI Top
    Memory
    64G (4x16) DDR5 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (6400Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon (XFX MERC 310) RX 7900XT
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27-inch Eizo Color Edge - CG2700X
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    4 Samsung NVM 990 Pro drives: 1 X 1TB (OS) 2X TB, 1 X 1TB.
    PSU
    Seasonic TX-1300 (1300 Watts)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair Link Titan 280 RX RGB
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1TB Download. 512mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.4391)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon (Gen 12)
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 7 165U vPro® Processor
    Motherboard
    Vendor
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X-6400MHz (Soldered)
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" 2.8K OLED, Anti Reflection, Touch, HDR 500, 400 nits, 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 Performance TLC Opal
    PSU
    Vendor
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    Touchpad: Haptic Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, Black with Fingerprint Reader and WWAN
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    202. Build Your Own laptop.
    vPro Certified Model: vPro Enterprise
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