Benchmark program/s causing my PC to crash?


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I had a problem with my PC crashing regularly until I uninstalled a bunch of programs. I fixed the issue by uninstalling a bunch of programs and changing a lot of settings some time ago. Funny enough, after installing MSI afterburner, HWiNFO, HWMONITOR, CPU-Z, Thaiphoon burner, and possibly some other program, My PC crashed for the first time after a while. Could any of these programs cause a crash?
 

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I had a problem with my PC crashing regularly until I uninstalled a bunch of programs. I fixed the issue by uninstalling a bunch of programs and changing a lot of settings some time ago. Funny enough, after installing MSI afterburner, HWiNFO, HWMONITOR, CPU-Z, Thaiphoon burner, and possibly some other program, My PC crashed for the first time after a while. Could any of these programs cause a crash?



Of that list, the only ones that could maybe "cause" a problem would be MSI Afterburner and Thaiphoon.
Those two are really the only ones that can "write" to software and/or your hardware.
But... they shouldn't do anything by themselves. Just installing them shouldn't cause PC crashes.

The others are pretty much, read only programs.




/edit
For example, MSI Afterburner can adjust vid card fan speeds and/or overclock a vid card.
But it shouldn't do that by itself. It would need you to change setting(s), in the program.

So I would think that only Thaiphoon, might be the culprit. I would think it would require the user to "tell" it to fix corrupt
SPD information. But... I don't know if Thaiphoon would attempt a fix, automatically or not.

From Thaiphoon's website... in RED...

This software does not fix hardware failures of RGB-capable DDR4 DRAM modules like Trident Z or Vengeance RGB. But you can use Thaiphoon Burner to restore corrupted SPD content to its original state.


Thaiphoon Burner is like Nitroglycerin. Don't mess with it, unless you know what you're doing. ^^
 
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Of that list, the only ones that could maybe "cause" a problem would be MSI Afterburner and Thaiphoon.
Those two are really the only ones that can "write" to software and/or your hardware.
But... they shouldn't do anything by themselves. Just installing them shouldn't cause PC crashes.

The others are pretty much, read only programs.




/edit
For example, MSI Afterburner can adjust vid card fan speeds and/or overclock a vid card.
But it shouldn't do that by itself. It would need you to change setting(s), in the program.

So I would think that only Thaiphoon, might be the culprit. I would think it would require the user to "tell" it to fix corrupt
SPD information. But... I don't know if Thaiphoon would attempt a fix, automatically or not.

From Thaiphoon's website... in RED...




Thaiphoon Burner is like Nitroglycerin. Don't mess with it, unless you know what you're doing. ^^
I think I found the issue... it might be hardware acceleration in the Microsoft edge settings. I recently changed the setting back to enabled so it might just be that. I will give an update to that asap.
 

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I think I found the issue... it might be hardware acceleration in the Microsoft edge settings. I recently changed the setting back to enabled so it might just be that. I will give an update to that asap.


That's usually the best place to start. The "last" thing you adjusted.
But.... I don't think that would affect the PC. It might cause Edge to crash though.

If you DO want to mess around with the settings under the hood... might want to spend some time, here...

 
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@Ghot is right. Willy nilly changing settings can give unexpected results. Default settings are called 'default' for a reason. Default settings have been tested to work. I'm not saying to not make changes, only to know what you are changing when an OS is running stable and what you can expect by changing it.
 

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