Better understanding Edge's (Bing's) approach to website urls


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There are things I like very much about the Edge Browser. I like its History and Search mechanisms. I also like that the URL I’m discussing below came about because Bing preceded it with an incredibly useful, more general, series of pressure tanks…

One thing I don’t like is that in Edge all web site addresses are preceded by 必应 and that the rest of the address (though including the title of the page) provides little clue as to the actual destination URL address.

In other words:
1717549893765.png
displays the same URL as

The way I got from Edge URL to the more essential URL (in Firefox, this time) was to search in Firefox for the complete youtube title (How to tell if your well pump system pressure tank (bladder tank) is water logged and has failed.).
  1. Is there an easier way to modify the bing.com…address to pare it down to the essential URL address? (If I go directly to another browser and copy/paste the www.bing.com address in, the other browser will just accept the Bing nomenclature.)
  2. I suspect all the other apparent gobblygook in the bing address (now) has something to do with all the useful tabs that suddenly appear on the left side of the webpage. Does anyone know more specifically what “diagram&mid=E076D457E85F350F6BDAE076D457E85F350F6BDA&ajaxhist=0” does or where it leads?
I don’t remember exactly why I’ve disliked this extension I’m complaining about because what I’m doing now (trying to get information for a friend) isn’t causing that annoyance.

Oh, Edge claims one can set its browser to another search engine… How?
 

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I was unable to even paste in the two urls (as URLs and even as quoted material) without getting some sort of depiction of the web address inserted in my post!!
 

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I was unable to even paste in the two urls (as URLs and even as quoted material) without getting some sort of depiction of the web address inserted in my post!!
use it in codes

link

[C]Link[/C]
 

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Edge claims one can set its browser to another search engine… How?
3 dots>settings>privacy, search, and services, scroll to bottom>address bar & search, click the arrow>change :search engine used in address bar.
Note is your preferred search engine is not in the list you can add it by selecting "Manage search engines"
Note: do not remove Bing from the list if you plan on using co-pilot. Co-pilot uses Bing. You can leave Bing and just not use it as default.
 

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In other words:
1717549893765.png

The top one has tracking parameters/redirects in the link. Basically a data collection in my opinion.
Googles links can be 4 times as long if not more.
They can also be useful for SEO purposes showing how you came to end up at a site.

Note how it has separated parameters “%20water%20pressure%20tank%20diagram” (%20 being identified as code for a space. They’re “keywords”)
So “water (space) pressure (space) tank (space) diagram” All would have been used in the question you asked Bing?

What was your search term for that?
 
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I don't care for Bing, so I use the extension "Chrometana" in Chrome, which redirects any Bing searches. But even then, in a URL for a PDF, the URL gets mutilated and you have to pick it apart to get just the link portion. Good thing I don't care if anyone sees what web sites I visit.
 

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I use the extension "Chrometana" in Chrome, which redirects any Bing searches.
Not sure then why you even asked?
 

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The top one has tracking parameters/redirects in the link. Basically a data collection in my opinion.
Googles links can be 4 times as long if not more.
They can also be useful for SEO purposes showing how you came to end up at a site.

Note how it has separated parameters “%20water%20pressure%20tank%20diagram” (%20 being identified as code for a space. They’re “keywords”)
So “water (space) pressure (space) tank (space) diagram” All would have been used in the question you asked Bing?

What was your search term for that?
the %20 is simply the hex keycode for a space (20) assuming a European type keyboard. It gets more complex if you go to websites with languages and keyboards that have a character set > 256 chars though.


Cheers
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I thought that was what I said
 

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I didn't ask anything. Is there a question mark somewhere in my post?
Sorry K7, I honestly thought Jro asked that. My fault for trying to use this forum on my phone. My apologies.
 

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Sorry K7, I honestly thought Jro asked that. My fault for trying to use this forum on my phone. My apologies.
No problem. I was just perplexed. I only use my cell phone for three things. Making phone calls, reading news, and playing Solitaire.
 

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I thought that was what I said
A space is assigned number 32, which is 20 in hexadecimal. When you see “%20,” it represents a space in an encoded URL.
There's only so many valid characters in a URL: upper & lowercase (all letters of the alphabet obviously) 0 - 9. Special characters _ - ! * ; ' { } ( )
Reserved characters are % $ & + , / ; : = ? @ And "space" which is 32 or hex: %20"

All other characters (reserved) must be encoded using a percent sign and their assigned hexadecimal numbers.
If server side needs to use a % sign in a URL for example, it must be coded %25.
 
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    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
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    …still on a horse.
You guys are makin life waaay too complicated!!! :cool:
 

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Started out simple enough.
 

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    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
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    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
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    Silverstone 1500
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    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
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    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
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    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
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    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
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    I’m on a horse.
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    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
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    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
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    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
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    M.2 512GB
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    …still on a horse.
3 dots>settings>privacy, search, and services, scroll to bottom>address bar & search, click the arrow>change :search engine used in address bar.
Wow...Thanks for going down the rabbit hole chasing that one down.
Note how it has separated parameters “%20water%20pressure%20tank%20diagram” (%20 being identified as code for a space. They’re “keywords”)
It must also flag the order of the keywords (or does it give that priority) to be sure to get the url with that exact title.
The top one has tracking parameters/redirects in the link. Basically a data collection in my opinion.
Googles links can be 4 times as long if not more.
So many links can be much much longer. But very few always start out with: www.bing.com/(intervening material)=youtube…
It seems to be a "signature" of sorts that Bing/Google has decided to adopt. (I'm not aware of any other company that does this.) and I'm curious to know why...
They can also be useful for SEO purposes showing how you came to end up at a site.
What does SEO mean?

Do you mean the characters between ...bing.com/ and =youtube... probably mean
the search I conducted immediately before picking one of the available locations located within it?

You're right! The search term I used previous was "water pressure tank diagram"
I don't care for Bing, so I use the extension "Chrometana" in Chrome, which redirects any Bing searches. But even then, in a URL for a PDF, the URL gets mutilated and you have to pick it apart to get just the link portion. Good thing I don't care if anyone sees what web sites I visit.
How do you '"use the extension Chrometana"'?
Sorry K7, I honestly thought Jro asked that.
...Chrometana...? I'm asking, I'm asking...
You guys are makin life waaay too complicated!!!
It's just getting interesting!
 

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    Win10 & unfortunately OneDrive: Can't completely rid myself of this!!
So now, why is 1717624867228.pngnot 1717624889819.png ?
 

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    Dell Inc. 0FHWFD A01
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    Dell Inc. 0FHWFD A01
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    16GB
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    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
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    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
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    laptop (small) and 1 or 2 external monitors
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    -
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    PC711 NVMe SK hynix 1TB 1.02 TB NVMe ANB2N582412102F0G_0001
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    -
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    fan
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    External!
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    External
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    -
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    Chrome (Chrome profiles), Firefox (Bookmark Search Plus2), Edge (History page), Opera (annoying)
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    WinDefender
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    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
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    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
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    n/a
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    External
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Considering 1717628910646.png

1) What's the purpose of 1717629138589.png and why is this not done by other search engines (maybe it is being done but I'm not aware of it)

2) What does this mean? 1717629249069.png

3) 1717629320251.png1717629342905.pngThis means the search relates to the separate search terms water, pressure, tank, diagram as well as the search string "water pressure tank diagram"

4) 1717629494908.png relates to ??

5) 1717629458574.pngrelates to ??

6) if this string returns the same site as the simpler string 1717629679150.png

What does 4 mean? What does 5 mean? and why isn't the simple string 6 included in the url address under consideration? (and, before I forget, what does 1 mean?)
 

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    Dell Inc. 0FHWFD A01
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    Dell Inc. 0FHWFD A01
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    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop (small) and 1 or 2 external monitors
    Screen Resolution
    -
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    PC711 NVMe SK hynix 1TB 1.02 TB NVMe ANB2N582412102F0G_0001
    PSU
    -
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    fan
    Keyboard
    External!
    Mouse
    External
    Internet Speed
    -
    Browser
    Chrome (Chrome profiles), Firefox (Bookmark Search Plus2), Edge (History page), Opera (annoying)
    Antivirus
    WinDefender
    Other Info
    Win11 Home 23H2 22631.3447
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    Win10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    self
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B75M-D3H
    Memory
    8068 MB Usable Installed Memory
    Graphics card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 Displays
    Screen Resolution
    n/a
    Hard Drives
    SSD and others (internal and external)
    Case
    Desktop
    Cooling
    Fan
    Mouse
    External
    Keyboard
    External
    Browser
    Chrome, Firefox, Tor, Brave, Opera, etc.
    Antivirus
    Win Defender
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    Win10 & unfortunately OneDrive: Can't completely rid myself of this!!

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