Brightness problem on Some games


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Hello.

I upgraded to Windows 11 and updated all the display drivers etc. Now when I play Some games I have an issue with the screen Brightness. When I load the game and increase the brightness using keyboard function keys, and then when I switch back to another app/desktop, the brightness automatically goes way down -- so I have to up the brightness again when I switch back to the game. I'm on High-Performance mode and I do not have the Adaptive Brightness option on Settings to turn it on or off (So I don't know if it's on). And I can't find such a setting on Intel Graphics Command Center or Nvidia control panel either. This problem Did Not exist on Windows 10.

Does anyone know what's going on? Is it a Win11 bug, probably?

Thanks!
 
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Does this happen while using just the Intel graphics or is it only when using Nvidia or is it both?

A new Nvidia graphics driver was released 4/26/22. Is that the one you have installed. This particular one is game ready driver.

The latest Intel DCH driver is dated 3/31/22 Latest Intel Graphics Driver for Windows 11
 

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Does this happen while using just the Intel graphics or is it only when using Nvidia or is it both?

A new Nvidia graphics driver was released 4/26/22. Is that the one you have installed. This particular one is game ready driver.

The latest Intel DCH driver is dated 3/31/22 Latest Intel Graphics Driver for Windows 11
Thanks for the input.

Yes I'm on Nvidia 512.59 release.

I think it's Nvidia, cuz I have no issue with other apps, only with Nvidia using games. But it started only when I upgraded to windows 11. So it might be a w11 compatibility issue with Nvidia, I dunno really.
 

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I have no issue with other apps
GeForce Experience is optimized for the games on this list. Supported Games for NVIDIA GeForce Experience
You might open GeForce Experience and check if there's anything in its settings that will help you with the problem.
512.59 was updated for Windows 11. The only other suggestion I can make is to go into your bios and disable onboard graphics to see if it is interfering with Nvidia in some way.
As I'm not a gamer, I would not know anything else to suggest but hopefully some of the gamers here will pick up on this thread. In fact, if the system will let you, you might change the title of this thread to "Can a gamer help me with my brightness problem?" Good luck.
 

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hmm. Anything to do with HDR? HDR setting on Windows 11 can pretty dramatically change the brightness. I actually turned off HDR recently because I did not like the results on the desktop, movies, or on games. Game bar (windows key + G) can switch games automatically to HDR usually with a notification in the lower right corner.
 

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Now when I play Some games I have an issue with the screen Brightness. When I load the game and increase the brightness using keyboard function keys,
Weird you never recognized this before. That said, I posted this last night but deleted it since you marked the thread solved.

Anyway, as I posted your issue may be that you're using the Function key to change the brightness level of a game, and when you exit the game, everything else looks off. This is because the Function key affects the entire system (everything you see).

The proper way to change in-game brightness (gamma) is through the game's brightness settings (which most games have). This setting is usually located under the video section of the game; here's an example of a game's "gamma" (brightness) setting (Dragon Age: Inquisition)...

Screenshot 2022-05-06 163250.jpg

Adjusting that will change the brightness level for that game only and will not affect anything else. The setting will stay as long as the game's overall settings aren't reset.

Bottom line: Do not use the keyboard's function key to change a game's brightness levels, as it will affect the entire system!!!

Hope this helps / answers your question.
 
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hmm. Anything to do with HDR? HDR setting on Windows 11 can pretty dramatically change the brightness. I actually turned off HDR recently because I did not like the results on the desktop, movies, or on games. Game bar (windows key + G) can switch games automatically to HDR usually with a notification in the lower right corner.
Tnx for the input.
I too have disabled all the HDR options.
 

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The proper way to change in-game brightness (gamma) is through the game's brightness settings (which most games have). This setting is usually located under the video section of the game; here's an example of a game's "gamma" (brightness) setting (Dragon Age: Inquisition)...

View attachment 28591

Adjusting that will change the brightness level for that game only and will not affect anything else. The setting will stay as long as the game's overall settings aren't reset.

Bottom line: Do not use the keyboard's function key to change a game's brightness levels, as it will affect the entire system!!!

Hope this helps / answers your question.
Tnx.

I tried that, but it seems that setting the gamma does not bring the same brightness effects as raising the Windows brightness. When I raise gamma on a game it won't adjust the contrast/crispiness as raising the Win brightness -- usually makes the screen foggy on high gamma. And this brightness-changing bug didn't exist on Win10. Anyways, I'll try again and report. And, why does when I switch back to the desktop the brightness automatically go down? It should remain the same just as I've set, is it not?

I posted this last night but deleted it since you marked the thread solved.
My apologies, that was a mistake. Sorry that you had to type the message again..
 

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Tnx.

I tried that, but it seems that setting the gamma does not bring the same brightness effects as raising the Windows brightness.
Well than that's the sacrifice you'll have to live with doing it that way because as long as you use the master brightness switch (the Function key) the "issue" (which is not an issue, it supposed to work that way) will continue.

And this brightness-changing bug didn't exist on Win10.
I don't know how you've used your PC in the past, but what you report ("When I load the game and increase the brightness using keyboard function keys") is not a "Windows bug" it's a laptop feature that has been around forever, regardless of OS. Both my Asus and Lenovo laptops (as well as most laptops) work the same way using the function key(s)... to adjust the overall brightness of the system.

And, why does when I switch back to the desktop the brightness automatically go down? It should remain the same just as I've set, is it not?
That in and of itself, does sound odd, but it might be a perception of the eye thing being you're coming out of the game back to the desktop, but I don't know. You could try the opposite, turn the brightness level up, than enter the game and see what happens?

And yeah, I got it now the marked solved was a mistake.

Good luck.
 

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That in and of itself, does sound odd, but it might be a perception of the eye thing being you're coming out of the game back to the desktop, but I don't know. You could try the opposite, turn the brightness level up, than enter the game and see what happens?

No it's not perception, cuz the brightness bar goes down to almost 10% (from 90%) when I come out of the game (currently tested in two NVidia supporting games I'm playing). When I execute the game the same happens, the brightness goes down, that's why I have to increase it now. Did not happen on Win10 as I recall.
 

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No it's not perception, cuz the brightness bar goes down to almost 10% (from 90%) when I come out of the game (currently tested in two NVidia supporting games I'm playing). When I execute the game the same happens, the brightness goes down, that's why I have to increase it now. Did not happen on Win10 as I recall.

Well I don't have an answer for that one. It doesn't make sense to me that games ("NVidia supporting games") would drop the overall system brightness down from 90 to 10 percent when exiting them.
  1. BTW, what "NVidia supporting games" are you talking about?
  2. And did your PC come with Windows 11 installed?
  3. Also, are you adjusting the brightness level through the NVidia Control Panel for your card?
 

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Well I don't have an answer for that one. It doesn't make sense to me that games ("NVidia supporting games") would drop the overall system brightness down from 90 to 10 percent when exiting them.
  1. BTW, what "NVidia supporting games" are you talking about?
  2. And did your PC come with Windows 11 installed?
  3. Also, are you adjusting the brightness level through the NVidia Control Panel for your card?
1. Black Mesa, and RIFT (mmorpg)
2. No it came with Windows10, and I upgraded it to Win11.
3. Well I just use the "High-performance NVIDIA processor" settings on the "Manage 3D settings" window, as Global Settings: Nvidia 3D settings
 

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1. Black Mesa, and RIFT (mmorpg)
Those games are supported by any card, but ok. Nonetheless those definitely shouldn't be causing the problems you post about.

2. No it came with Windows10, and I upgraded it to Win11.
3. Well I just use the "High-performance NVIDIA processor" settings on the "Manage 3D settings" window, as Global Settings: Nvidia 3D settings
  1. Set that back to normal.
  2. Set the brightness function key to the brightness level you want (say 80%).
  3. Also, "If" you adjusted any brightness settings in the NVidia control panel, set those back to default.
  4. Open game and adjust brightness in-game.
  5. Test.
  6. Let us know
When you upgraded to Windows 11, did you check for new drivers from your laptop vendor?

Also, what version of Windows are you running - build number. To get that, type "winver" (without quotes) in "Run". Start, Run. You will get this screen which will show version and build....

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 (22000.778)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 P2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, audiophile media center, work.
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro Dev build 22454.1000
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga X1
    CPU
    Intel i7-7600U
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16igg
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 620
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14.0 WQHD OLED Touch
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe Drive (OEM)
    PSU
    laptop
    Case
    laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop cooling
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Anywhere 2S
    Keyboard
    Laptop
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security

John Pombrio

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NVidia has the program GEForce Experience which you can find in the icons on the taskbar. The program will "optimize" a game if you allow it to which includes a whole bunch of settings including things like below that I have for BLACK MESA. Verify that the games you are playing are not being adversely affected by this program!
 

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    home built
    CPU
    i7-12700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Rog Strix Z690-F Gaming
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 card
    Sound Card
    none Headphones ASUS 7.1 Surround
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M32U 32 inch 4k IPS 144Hz monitor
    Screen Resolution
    3340 by 2160 144 Hz with HDR 10
    Hard Drives
    2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVME, 3X Samsung 4TB 860 EVO
    PSU
    EVGA 850 Modular
    Case
    Corsair Graphite 780T
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper air
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 RGB
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 wired
    Internet Speed
    990Mbps up/down Fiber to the home
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
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