Can I clone System drive A to a partition on Backup drive B, then clone from the Backup partition back to System drive A?


BothHands

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I think this can be done, and easily, but am not in a position to "experiment" right now.
I would much appreciate advice from more experienced users.
Please refer to the simple diagrams below.

I have three computers: Win7 Win10 Win11
Each has a 500GB System drive
and a 500GB Data drive.

I want to purchase a 4TB HDD to use as a central Backup drive, via USB enclosure.
I intend to create six 500GB partitions on the Backup drive.

I will use DiskGenius software, but Macrium Reflect, EaseUS, etc. would apply.

I want to CLONE each System drive to its own partition on the Backup drive.
I want to COPY each Data drive to its own partition on the Backup drive.

TOMdrives-Clone.png

When any of the three Windows operating systems becomes corrupted:
I want to CLONE that System partition back to its original System drive.

When data on any of the three data drives becomes corrupted:
I want to COPY that Data partition back to its original Data drive.

TOMdrives-Restore.png
 
Windows Build/Version
23H2 Build 22631.3296 but this is a general Windows question
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It's not quite that simple as you'll hear shortly from various Forum members... :-)
 

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    11 Pro 23H2 & 11 Pro 24H2 & LTSB Enterprise.
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    Intel i7 4790K
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    ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
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It's not quite that simple as you'll hear shortly from various Forum members... :-)
Nothing's ever simple. I've been trying to find "one simple answer" to this for weeks. I can't tell you how many endless threads and posts and articles I've read that go round and round and round, discussing every possible nuance of every technical consideration in the world.

I'm just looking for "the answer" for how to accomplish the procedure I set out in my question, or something similar. I don't want to read a hundred permutations on what might apply under some obscure conditions that don't pertain. My parameters are pretty simple, so I'm hoping for simple advice on how to do only what I'm trying to accomplish.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    Beelink SER5 Pro 5700U
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5700U (onboard AMD Radeon graphics)
    Motherboard
    Whatever Beelink uses (AMZ?)
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    onboard AMD Radeon graphics
@BothHands

Don't clone.

Use Macrium to image each physical disk, and save each of those images to your 4TB external.
Then when you're ready... just "restore" the images to their respective drives.


Image1.png
 

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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
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    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
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    Firefox 3.x ??
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
The simpleset answer is yes, and the suggested "imaging" answer above is also correct, saving you a lot of storage space. Many imaging apps are available to do this for you, one of the more recent entries in this area is the Hasleo Backup Suite, which is also FREE, BTW... and it can CLONE as well (if you insist).

"We dunt need no stinkin' nuances here..."
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10, Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z2 G5 Workstation
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700
    Motherboard
    HP Model# 8751
    Memory
    32gB (DDR4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek basic audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD (Viewsonic)
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    (3) NvME SSD, (1) SATA3 SSD
@BothHands

Don't clone.

Use Macrium to image each physical disk, and save each of those images to your 4TB external.
Then when you're ready... just "restore" the images to their respective drives.
With 11,000+ posts, U DA MAN. =D
I absolutely appreciate your very simple, direct answer. And the helpful screencapture.

But why do you advise against cloning? I ask because twice in the past (several years ago) I had backup files that refused to restore. I ended up SOL and had rebuild the entire system in both instances.

I'm not arguing this point. I'm just saying that cloning seems (to me, so far) to be direct, and simple, and easy to verify/test.

Simply swap the target drive in for the original source drive. Boot the system, and if everything works, stash that target drive in a safe place until you clone again in a few weeks or a month.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SER5 Pro 5700U
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5700U (onboard AMD Radeon graphics)
    Motherboard
    Whatever Beelink uses (AMZ?)
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    onboard AMD Radeon graphics
The simpleset answer is yes, and the suggested "imaging" answer above is also correct, saving you a lot of storage space. Many imaging apps are available to do this for you, one of the more recent entries in this area is the Hasleo Backup Suite, which is also FREE, BTW... and it can CLONE as well (if you insist).

"We dunt need no stinkin' nuances here..."
Many thanks for the insights, and for packaging them so "concisely." =D
And thanks for the suggestion re. Hasleo Backup Suite. I'll look into it.

Love the reference to "Treasure of the Sierra Madre"! HA!
Badjezz?! We don' need no steenkeen badjezz!
Looks and sounds a lot like our southern border...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SER5 Pro 5700U
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5700U (onboard AMD Radeon graphics)
    Motherboard
    Whatever Beelink uses (AMZ?)
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    onboard AMD Radeon graphics
With 11,000+ posts, U DA MAN. =D
I absolutely appreciate your very simple, direct answer. And the helpful screencapture.

But why do you advise against cloning? I ask because twice in the past (several years ago) I had backup files that refused to restore. I ended up SOL and had rebuild the entire system in both instances.

I'm not arguing this point. I'm just saying that cloning seems (to me, so far) to be direct, and simple, and easy to verify/test.

Simply swap the target drive in for the original source drive. Boot the system, and if everything works, stash that target drive in safe place until you clone again in a few weeks or a month.



It's up to you ofc.

I've always imaged rather than clone. Never had a problem, 24 years straight.
Another advantage to imaging is that the images are approx. 1/2 the size of a clone, at default compression settings.

I guess the best advice I can give is to do whatever you feel most comfortable with.


And... @Froggie 's reference is from Blazing Saddles. :-)





In Treasure of the Sierra Madre, it's slightly different...

"Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges! I don't have to show you any stinkin' badges!"
 

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    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3593 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
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    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    Onboard
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
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    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
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    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
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    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
TOMdrives-Restore.png



The issue with cloning your 3 os from different disks to the one 4tb disk would be the esp partitions.

Not hard to work around.

Have one esp partition on the 4tb with bcd entries pointing at all 3 os partitions on the 4tb.

I suggest using the esp partion from the win 11 disk, then add the other os entries to it.

1. First migrate the win11 disk esp, os partition and data partition onto the 4tb.

Can do that with diskgenius os migration ( it will autoselect the partitions needed by windows 11 , click "manage partitions" to add the data partition to the migration. It will probably migrate the hidden msr partition as well if there is one, which is fine. )

the 4tb would then have

win11 esp| msr| win11 os| win11 disk data partition|

2. next create a partition big enough for the win10 os and use wincopy to copy the win10 os onto that partition ( it will also create the bcd entry in the win11 esp bcd that you already migrated )


win11 esp| msr| win11 os| win11 disk data partition| win10 os|


3. then clone the data partition from win10 disk - use diskgenius for that

win11 esp| msr| win11 os| win11 disk data partition| win10 os| win10 disk data partition


4. then create a partition big enough for the win7 os and use wincopy to copy the win7 os onto that partition ( it will also create the bcd entry in the win11 esp bcd that you already migrated )

win11 esp| msr| win11 os| win11 disk data partition| win10 os| win10 disk data partition| win7 os

5. then clone the data partition from win7 disk - use diskgenius for that

The final result:

win11 esp| msr| win11 os| win11 disk data partition| win10 os| win10 disk data partition| win7 os| win7 disk data partition
 
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    2x8gb 3200mhz
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    benq gw2480
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    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
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    cryorig m9i
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    pentium g5400
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    1x8gb 2400
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    xfx pro 450

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    HP
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
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    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
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    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
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    Microsoft Defender
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    Mobile Workstation
It's up to you ofc.

I've always imaged rather than clone. Never had a problem, 24 years straight.
Another advantage to imaging is that the images are approx. 1/2 the size of a clone, at default compression settings.

I guess the best advice I can give is to do whatever you feel most comfortable with.
Thanks, and point taken. I'll weigh both options as there doesn't seem to be any specific reason to go one way or the other.
My past difficulties involved a paid version of Paragon Hard Disk Manager. I stopped using it in light of the failed restores, and my impression is that they fell from grace since that time. Now I'm relying on free software (DiskGenius in particular, or the final free version of Macrium Reflect) and that seems like it might introduce problems. Again, thank you.

And thanks for the Blazing Saddles link. I'm sure I saw that when it was first released, and that condensed version stayed in my head. It's more concise than the original. I love both versions. Too good, either way! =D
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SER5 Pro 5700U
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5700U (onboard AMD Radeon graphics)
    Motherboard
    Whatever Beelink uses (AMZ?)
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    onboard AMD Radeon graphics
@BothHands


You could always cheat, like I do....

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3593 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
@BothHands


You could always cheat, like I do....

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I hated being FORCED to go from Win7 to Win10. So for about two years my main PC had the same thing!
One drive running Win7 Pro and the other running Win10 Pro.

And speaking of cheating, I used two regular household light switches to determine which drive would be operational. I simply cut the red wire going to the Win 7 drive (SATA III) and ran that wire through one light switch. Cut the red wire going to the Win11 drive (SATA III) and ran that wire through the other switch.

Not sure what would have happened if both switches were on at once. =O
I was very careful, and managed to avoid that.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SER5 Pro 5700U
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5700U (onboard AMD Radeon graphics)
    Motherboard
    Whatever Beelink uses (AMZ?)
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    onboard AMD Radeon graphics
The issue with cloning your 4 os from different disks to the one 4tb disk would be the esp partitions.

Not hard to work around.

Have one esp partition on the 4tb with bcd entries pointing at all 4 os partitions on the 4tb.

I suggest using the esp partion from the win 11 disk, then add the other os entries using win11 bcdboot.

First migrate the win11 disk esp, os partition and data partition onto the 4tb. Can do that with diskgenius os migration ( it will autoselect the partitions needed by windows 11 , click "manage partitions" to add the data partition to the migration.
Greetings, @SIW2 !
I don't know what that means.
Oh, no! Here we go again... =O =D

I'll try to educate myself. Will probably return with obtuse questions. You know the drill... Hahahaha
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SER5 Pro 5700U
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5700U (onboard AMD Radeon graphics)
    Motherboard
    Whatever Beelink uses (AMZ?)
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    onboard AMD Radeon graphics
I hated being FORCED to go from Win7 to Win10. So for about two years my main PC had the same thing!
One drive running Win7 Pro and the other running Win10 Pro.

And speaking of cheating, I used two regular household light switches to determine which drive would be operational. I simply cut the red wire going to the Win 7 drive (SATA III) and ran that wire through one light switch. Cut the red wire going to the Win11 drive (SATA III) and ran that wire through the other switch.

Not sure what would have happened if both switches were on at once. =O
I was very careful, and managed to avoid that.


SATA power 4-way switch
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3593 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
I wouldn’t dare bring up the word duplicator. 🤣
 

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  • OS
    11 Pro 23H2 & 11 Pro 24H2 & LTSB Enterprise.
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware PC
    CPU
    Intel i7 4790K
    Motherboard
    ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    SAMSUNG UE57 Series 28-Inch 4K UHD
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2
    PSU
    EVGA 850 watt
    Case
    Alienware Area 51 Black Tower Case
    Keyboard
    HyperX - Alloy Elite 2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless
    Internet Speed
    1.2 GHz
    Browser
    Chrome
There are pro and con links for clone vs image:


Ooooo! Thank you @zbook.
I have to leave now, but will study that article carefully.
I wish I had found it weeks ago.
Thanks again.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SER5 Pro 5700U
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5700U (onboard AMD Radeon graphics)
    Motherboard
    Whatever Beelink uses (AMZ?)
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    onboard AMD Radeon graphics

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SER5 Pro 5700U
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5700U (onboard AMD Radeon graphics)
    Motherboard
    Whatever Beelink uses (AMZ?)
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    onboard AMD Radeon graphics
Detailed instructions here

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Have one esp partition on the 4tb with bcd entries pointing at all 3 os partitions on the 4tb.

I suggest using the esp partion from the win 11 disk, then add the other os entries to it.

1. First migrate the win11 disk esp, os partition and data partition onto the 4tb.

Can do that with diskgenius os migration ( it will autoselect the partitions needed by windows 11 , click "manage partitions" to add the data partition to the migration. It will probably also migrate the hidden msr partition if there is one, which is fine. )

the 4tb would then have

win11 esp| msr| win11 os| win11 disk data partition|

2. next create a partition big enough for the win10 os and use wincopy to copy the win10 os onto that partition ( it will also create the bcd entry in the win11 esp bcd that you already migrated )


win11 esp| msr| win11 os| win11 disk data partition| win10 os|


3. then clone the data partition from win10 disk - use diskgenius for that

win11 esp| msr| win11 os| win11 disk data partition| win10 os| win10 disk data partition


4. then create a partition big enough for the win7 os and use wincopy to copy the win7 os onto that partition ( it will also create the bcd entry in the win11 esp bcd that you already migrated )

win11 esp| msr| win11 os| win11 disk data partition| win10 os| win10 disk data partition| win7 os

5. then clone the data partition from win7 disk - use diskgenius for that

The final result:

win11 esp| msr| win11 os| win11 disk data partition| win10 os| win10 disk data partition| win7 os| win7 disk data partition

those are step by step instructions.

For example if you later wanted to migrate win7 from the 4tb to a different disk, can easily be done with diskgenius os migration. ( you can add the win7 data partition to the migration with the "manage partitions" button).

The migrated win7 would have the couple of extra boot menu entries one pointing at win 10 and one pointing at win11 which would be useless .Can easily delete those two in msconfig afterwards
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450

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