Can I install Win-7 in New System with Win-11 ?


sean

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Hi,
I bought a new Dell workstation 3660 with
i-7 12700
2 NVIDIA T-600 Cards To Run 8 Monitors
Win-11 Pro
3 M.2 512GB NVME & 3 SATA 4TB 5400 RPM.
Eight 24 inch Monitors ( 1920 x 1200 ) Resolution

I am facing several issues like Font size + Clipped Fonts in Windows explorer file & folder names if I try to increase Text size or scale + 2 Monitors out of 8 has different resolution, Microphone does not work or detect etc. Very similar issues faced by people in this forum. I did post on this forum & people were very generous with their time but issues still remain.

Currently I am using 10 year old Dell workstation T-7500 with 12 Monitors & no issues for last 10 years. But now cpu & other fans are making noise & age gets to me so I bought the new Dell 3660 Workstation.

4 different Dell engineers have been working on it for last 2 weeks with no results.

I have never used any newer versions of Windows like Win-8 or 10. I have to finish the current project that I am working & feel very comfortable with Win-7 even without any updates since 2020.

So my question is can I install Win-7 on a different New M.2 NVME SSD & use it in current new system that I just bought with specs shown above ? And if yes or no, what problems would I run into it ?

Thank You.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell T-7500
    CPU
    Intel Xeon E5645@2.4 GHz
    Memory
    12 GB

cereberus

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First - new pc may not have drivers for W7.

Secondly W7 is no longer supported and a security risk.

If you really have to use it, I recommend you put it in a virtual machine.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0

sean

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First - new pc may not have drivers for W7.
I have a 500GB HDD 7200rpm with Windows-7 & drivers & updates which I use to clone another HDD in case if something goes wrong with Current 500GB HDD.
Could I use that to transfer Win-7 to new M.2 512GB NVME 2280 & if yes how ?
The new machine does not recognize any of my current 500GB & 3TB HDDs
Secondly W7 is no longer supported and a security risk.
Yes, I know that. I use ESET antivirus. Would my internet router help thwart any incoming viruses ? I also use Malwarebyte's anti malware.
If you really have to use it, I recommend you put it in a virtual machine.
I don't know how to do that. Any guides, tutorials etc on it ?

Thank You


Hi,
I bought a new Dell workstation 3660 with
i-7 12700
2 NVIDIA T-600 Cards To Run 8 Monitors
Win-11 Pro
Eight 24 inch Monitors ( 1920 x 1200 ) Resolution

I am facing several issues like Font size + Clipped Fonts in Windows explorer file & folder names if I try to increase Text size or scale + 2 Monitors out of 8 has different resolution, Microphone does not work or detect etc. Very similar issues faced by people in this forum. I did post on this forum & people were very generous with their time but issues still remain.

Currently I am using 10 year old Dell workstation T-7500 with 12 Monitors & no issues for last 10 years. But now cpu fan noise & age gets to me so I bought the new Dell 3660 Workstation.

4 different Dell engineers have been working on it for last 2 weeks with no results.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell T-7500
    CPU
    Intel Xeon E5645@2.4 GHz
    Memory
    12 GB

Megahertz

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There are some 12th Intel gen computers running Win 7. To install Win 7 on a computer like yours isn't an easy task. You have to add some drivers (SATA, USB3.x and NVMe) to the Win 7 installation drive.
The right place to post a thread for Win 7 help is Installation & Setup - Windows 10 Forums

As Win 11 and Win 10 share same license, why don't you downgrade Win 11 to Win 10. Easy task. All you have to do is to create a Win 11 Drive image backup and do a Win 10 Clean install
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 11 Pro - Lubuntu
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom build
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    (4) -1 BX500 SSD - 128G for Win 10
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
  • Operating System
    Windows 7 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Q550LF
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800- 3000MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs
    & 1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64

cereberus

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0

spapakons

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It reminds me of the old Windows Vista days. As you may know Windows Vista was made deliberately slower than Windows XP to help boost new PC sales. At the time many panicked and rushed to buy a new graphics card with WDDM (Vista) drivers or a new PC just to install Vista. Many others that bought a new computer or laptop with Vista preinstalled wanted to downgrade to Windows XP to boost performance and use a much more familiar interface. Of course most manufacturers didn't offer XP drivers for new Vista models to discourage them downgrade. This didn't mean that the machines were not XP compatible, of course they could run Windows XP, if you manage to install it and find appropriate drivers for all the hardware. To do that we had to download most of the drivers directly from component manufacturer (Intel, AMD, Realtek etc). We should also make sure we downloaded the SATA controller drivers are Windows XP Setup could not detect the hard disk. We used the nLite utility to incorporate the SATA (and any other driver) into the Windows XP ISO. After we had this custom ISO with the SATA driver built-in, we burned that on CD and proceeded to install Windows XP. After installation we installed all the drivers one-by-one starting from the chipset driver and then the graphics driver. I actually made a profit back in 2010s by installing Windows XP in my customer's Vista computers.

Here we go again... Make sure you download a Windows 7 64-bit driver for every component of your PC. Use nLite to incorporate these drivers into the standard Windows 7 ISO. Create a bootable USB Flash drive with Rufus using this ISO. If your computer can be configured to boot in Legacy BIOS mode, then disable Secure Boot, and make sure you enable the Legacy boot mode in UEFI Firmware (BIOS). While restarting your computer press F12 to enable the Boot menu. Select your flash drive and start Windows 7 Setup. If you have incorporated the NVMe driver in the ISO, Windows Setup should detect the disk and allow you to proceed. However some NVMe disks don't support booting in Legacy BIOS mode. If you see such a message during Setup, try creating your USB Flash drive in UEFI (GPT) mode instead of MBR (CSM) and install Windows 7 in UEFI mode. I haven't done it personally, but Windows 7 can be installed in UEFI mode. Not sure if making the USB in UEFI mode with Rufus is enough or you need some more hacking though. Just Google it if needed. Please post your results. I you finally managed to install Windows 7 and what did you do with the drivers. In case that Windows 7 64-bit graphics drivers are not available, download the Windows 8 or 10 64-bit drivers, prefer the ZIP file. Then extract all contents from the ZIP file to a folder and go to Device Manager, Display Adapters and try to manually force the Windows 8/10 driver by browsing to the folder. Please don't forget to post if you managed to force the Windows 8/10 graphics driver in case you had to go that route.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.978)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v22H2 (build 22621.521)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4

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