Solved Can someone point me a how to USB clean install on unsupported hardware using appraiserres.dll method?


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I found a clone works and is activated.
But I want to clean install 11 on an 80gb drive instead of a 500gb which cant clone that small. And keep the 500gb drive for potentially other use.

I made a USB install using windows media creation tool.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    some kind of old ASUS MB
    CPU
    old AMD B95
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    ssd WD 500 gb
If you are looking for a way to Create Windows 11 Bootable USB for Unsupported Computer. Don’t worry, because in this video, you will learn the easiest way to create a bootable USB for an unsupported Computer.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
Can someone point me a how to USB clean install on unsupported hardware using appraiserres.dll method?

The current workaround is described in
How to upgrade from Win11 21h2 to Win 11 22h2 - A guide - Luiz - ElevenForum
which says that you should create a blank appraiserres.dll file [instead of deleting it as we did for v21H2].
@Megahertz

And make a note of the workaround that Bree recommends for v24H2 as well - see
and looks like MS have blocked the known workarounds for the 24H2 install media.

So the easiest workaround I've found so far is to make a hybrid usb, part 23H2, part 24H2, then the known workarounds still work
@Bree


Best of luck,
Denis
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
I tried simply booting the win10 on the laptop and installing from there using mount the 11 iso, run setupprep /product server method, spent a lot of time setting up 11, but it failed on a restart to boot itself and shut down. Then when I restarted (push button), windows reverted to 10 pro.

I was able to create a clone of 11 from another desktop (AMD) and put the drive into the Dell 630 (intel), and it boots 11 pro perfect and works ok, after it spent some time reconfiguring itself.

And since was already activated from 10 to my MS online account, it was activated. So I know the old laptop runs 11.

The install I want is to boot from usb, wipe the 80gb drive and clean install 11, so maybe the Rufus idea can work.

Otherwise, I thought there was something about a blank appraiserres.dll file method booting from usb and no prior windows install on the drive.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    some kind of old ASUS MB
    CPU
    old AMD B95
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    ssd WD 500 gb
Why try to re-invent the wheel .... Rufus has already done it for you.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-9400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 1TB SSDs
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    Classic Australian w.a.p.
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (latest upadte ... anally always)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
I had the large 6.4 gb iso already downloaded from last week, so used that for RUFUS method.
Since the dell 630 is not uefi, I set to MBR from GPT
Rufus gives you options for old PC before it creates the drive after you click start
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    some kind of old ASUS MB
    CPU
    old AMD B95
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    ssd WD 500 gb
Well dummy me just wiped out my recovery USB for my Dell 7530 I had made last week. Forgot to swap out the 256GB usb drive for the 8GB usb drive...
I can always make another but honestly that took so long like an hour to make even with usb 3. I think you better off using the setupprep /product server method to refresh a windows install and keep files and programs intact than using a recovery usb.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    some kind of old ASUS MB
    CPU
    old AMD B95
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    ssd WD 500 gb
Rufus did the job, it is working on 11 on this old DELL D630

One thing did give me grief, trying to sign into my MS account. I tried 10 times to sign in, it would go to authenticator and pass, then it says we need your password one more time... I thought they wanted my ms account password, no, no. They wanted my local user account password.
Well, I did not have one, I saw nothing about that when win 11 first came up. Windows responds by saying oops, we had an error on our side.


I restarted PC, then windows told me I had to change my local account password. So I typed in a new password, logged in.
Went back to setting up my MS login account on the PC, and that time for the final password request used my local account password and it finally worked.

MS wording this by saying we need your password one more time is not clear enough. Should word it different, like now we need your local account password. The whole process let me try without even setting a local account password, or even a local account setup. There was a local account already made for me with username 'sdown'
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    some kind of old ASUS MB
    CPU
    old AMD B95
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    ssd WD 500 gb
The base install is 49.3 gb.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    some kind of old ASUS MB
    CPU
    old AMD B95
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    ssd WD 500 gb
I tried 10 times to sign in,
Most of the recommendations are that you don't sign in with an MS account
- no license key
- no MS account
- no internet connection
until the basic full installation is completed and up and running
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-9400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 1TB SSDs
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    Classic Australian w.a.p.
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (latest upadte ... anally always)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
I tried simply booting the win10 on the laptop and installing from there using mount the 11 iso
You asked about clean installs.
What you did was not a clean install but a Repair install [aka In-place upgrade].


Denis
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
You asked about clean installs.
What you did was not a clean install but a Repair install [aka In-place upgrade].


Denis
I know I did and it failed, Which Is why I was looking how to do a clean install on unsupported hardware.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    some kind of old ASUS MB
    CPU
    old AMD B95
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    ssd WD 500 gb
RUFUS 4.4 DOES NOT crack Windows 24H2. Microsoft changed its requirements check and files for booting up the USB bypassing all of the RUFUS "Hacks" such as TPM 2.0 and Minimum RAM Requirements. My system works fine without the hack. I was doing it for a friend with an older PC. However, Windows 11 23H2 works fine with RUFUS. Please take note of this.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Professional
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9 14900F (24-Core, 68MB Total Cache
    Motherboard
    Alienware
    Memory
    2x32 64 Gbyte DDR5 5600 MT/IS
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4070Ti SUPER 16GB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs Z 5.1 Surround Sound with THX
    Hard Drives
    1 TB, M.2, PCIe NVMe, SSD 4x6.0 TB RAID 0 NAS HDDs.
    PSU
    Alienware
    Case
    Alienware
    Cooling
    Alienware Liquid Cool System
    Keyboard
    Alienware Gaming Keyboard.
    Mouse
    Alienware Gaming Pro Elite
    Internet Speed
    1000 Gig Download, 50 Gig Upload
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Avast One
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Professional
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware m18
RUFUS 4.4 DOES NOT crack Windows 24H2. Microsoft changed its requirements check and files for booting up the USB bypassing all of the RUFUS "Hacks" such as TPM 2.0 and Minimum RAM Requirements. My system works fine without the hack. I was doing it for a friend with an older PC. However, Windows 11 23H2 works fine with RUFUS. Please take note of this.
I think your talking about the POPCNT SSE4.2 cpu requirement, As long as the cpu has that, Rufus will work on old unsupported hardware with 24H2 like for cpu that are below 8th gen for Intel

example, I have a phenom ii x4 955 that has POPCNT but cant install 23H2, but with Rufus it can install, and will be able to be installing 24H2 with Rufus

you can also clone an installed win 11 OS and just put it in unsupported hardware and it will boot up 23H2, and be activated too as long as hardware was already priorly activated with an earlier version of 10 or 11.

I figure 24H2 will be the same thing except for if the cpu does not have the POPCNT
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    some kind of old ASUS MB
    CPU
    old AMD B95
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    ssd WD 500 gb
I know I did and it failed, Which Is why I was looking how to do a clean install on unsupported hardware.
In this video, i will upgrade Windows 10 to Windows 11 on unsupported computer hardware. Although Windows 11 has a higher system requirement, you may still be able to perform an upgrade on an unsupported computer. The Windows setup has an “appraiser” service that checks to see if your computer meets the minimum hardware requirements for that version. It’s possible to replace the appraiserres.dll file in the Windows 11 setup with one from an older build of Windows 10. In order to replace the Windows 11 DLL with one from Windows 10, you’ll actually need the setup files for Windows 10.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
But I want to clean install 11 on an 80gb drive instead of a 500gb which cant clone that small. And keep the 500gb drive for potentially other use.
I've not found cloning to a smaller drive works, always clone to same size or larger. I only use offline/hardware cloning in a dual-drive dock.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 2TB WDC HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-9400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 1TB SSDs
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    Classic Australian w.a.p.
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (latest upadte ... anally always)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
Hello @sdowney717,
I have installed two operating systems of Windows 11 insider preview v24 H2 build 26063 on two partitions of 1TB HDD(MBR).
And Windows 11 insider preview v24 H2 build 26063 on 128 Gb SSD(GPT) format.
All three Windows 11 are running very well on i3 processor in my pc with 4GB RAM.
Please refer to link if you are interested.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Window 11 v24H2 Build 26085.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASSEMMBLED
    CPU
    Intel Pentium CPU G620@ 2.60 GHz
    Motherboard
    DAICHI
    Memory
    6 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Onboard
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba HDD 1 TB
    Keyboard
    Mechanical
    Mouse
    Mechanical
    Internet Speed
    700 kb/s
    Browser
    Microsoft EDGE, CHROME
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
I have 2 Notebooks, Dell Inspiron 15R 5537 and HP Envy 17 TS, both from 2014 and did the Upgrade using the USB Thumb drive created by the MCT process. They were booted into Win10 and I changed the mentioned file in the Sources folder on the USB drive then ran the setup.exe file on the USB drive. They have made it through the last 2 Patch Tuesday updates without issue.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 2TB WDC HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security

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