Can't restore graphical boot menu

octiceps · Dec 19, 2021

Previously, I was dual booting W10 and W7 on separate drives. W7 was set as the default OS, so the OS select menu was the old black and white one. But if I pressed F8 with W10 highlighted, the advanced options menu switched to the newer blue UI style.

Now, I wiped the W10 drive and installed W11 on it. But I can't get the graphical boot menu back. It's stuck on the legacy menu, even if I press F8 with W11 selected.

I have made sure that W11 is the default OS.

I have also tried these commands:

bcdboot c:\windows (where W11 is installed)

bcdboot e:\windows (where W7 is installed)

bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard

bcdedit /set "{current}" bootmenupolicy legacy

But no luck in getting the graphical boot menu back. Any advice?

JAM83 · Dec 19, 2021

What's the graphical menu look like?

octiceps · Dec 19, 2021

JMedlock83 said:
What's the graphical menu look like?

See the images here: Dual Boot Windows 11 with Windows 10

JAM83 · Dec 19, 2021

octiceps said:
See the images here: Dual Boot Windows 11 with Windows 10

oh ok. . I never heard them call that. . lol

Superfly · Dec 19, 2021

octiceps said:
Previously, I was dual booting W10 and W7 on separate drives. W7 was set as the default OS, so the OS select menu was the old black and white one. But if I pressed F8 with W10 highlighted, the advanced options menu switched to the newer blue UI style.

Now, I wiped the W10 drive and installed W11 on it. But I can't get the graphical boot menu back. It's stuck on the legacy menu, even if I press F8 with W11 selected.

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I have made sure that W11 is the default OS.

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I have also tried these commands:

bcdboot c:\windows (where W11 is installed)

bcdboot e:\windows (where W7 is installed)

bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard

bcdedit /set "{current}" bootmenupolicy legacy

But no luck in getting the graphical boot menu back. Any advice?

Remember to run as admin

in Terminal (Admin) the command would be

Code:

bcdboot $env:windir

cereberus · Dec 19, 2021

You only need to run the first bcdedit command (as admin). Do not follow by by doing second command in Windows 7.

The other thing is you sometimes need to do a full shutdown before change kicks in (do alt+f4, shutdown)

jimbo45 · Dec 19, 2021

cereberus said:
You only need to run the first bcdedit command (as admin). Do not follow by by doing second command in Windows 7.

The other thing is you sometimes need to do a full shutdown before change kicks in (do alt+f4, shutdown)

Hi there

As @cereberus says just do the first bcdedit command. I added a Winpe "emergency shell" as a vhdx physical file and the boot menu reverted to the non graphical one (still gave me all the OS'es though). I then re-booted into a W11 OS and ran the bcdboot command again from that OS and the graphical boot menu was restored again (also with the winpe boot os as a bootable OS too).

cheers
jimbo

Superfly · Dec 19, 2021

jimbo45 said:
Hi there

As @cereberus says just do the first bcdedit command. I added a Winpe "emergency shell" as a vhdx physical file and the boot menu reverted to the non graphical one (still gave me all the OS'es though). I then re-booted into a W11 OS and ran the bcdboot command again from that OS and the graphical boot menu was restored again (also with the winpe boot os as a bootable OS too).

cheers
jimbo

I've never used "bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy" how does that change the files being booted from?

jimbo45 · Dec 19, 2021

Superfly said:
I've never used "bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy" how does that change the files being booted from?

Hi there
I think you've misread the info --- it's bcdboot command on the latest Windows system -- you don't need bcdedit !!!!

Cheers
jimbo

octiceps · Dec 19, 2021

Superfly said:
Remember to run as admin

in Terminal (Admin) the command would be

Code:

bcdboot $env:windir

I ran this followed by a full shutdown, but it is still giving me the non-graphical boot menu.

Superfly · Dec 22, 2021

octiceps said:
I ran this followed by a full shutdown, but it is still giving me the non-graphical boot menu.

Oh well.. then I just dunno... NB shutdown and restart are very different.

But I don't think that's the issue... you need to post screenshots... it's impossible to find your way in the dark.

octiceps · Dec 22, 2021

Superfly said:
Oh well.. then I just dunno... NB shutdown and restart are very different.

But I don't think that's the issue... you need to post screenshots... it's impossible to find your way in the dark.

What should I post screenshots of?

Superfly · Dec 22, 2021

octiceps said:
What should I post screenshots of?

Each step...

octiceps · Dec 22, 2021

Superfly said:
Each step...

When I entered your command all it said was that the boot files were created successfully but nothing changed.

Scott · Dec 22, 2021

octiceps said:
I have also tried these commands:

bcdboot c:\windows (where W11 is installed)

bcdboot e:\windows (where W7 is installed)

Run these again, but the other way around.

octiceps · Dec 22, 2021

Scott said:
Run these again, but the other way around.
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Definitely tried that already. At this point, I’m wondering if it’s because I’m booting in legacy mode instead of UEFI, but I can’t change it because both my OSes are already installed in legacy mode because W7 doesn’t work in UEFI.

zbook · Dec 22, 2021

Windows 10 can run in either Legacy or UEFI native or UEFI hybrid.

Windows 11 requires UEFI without CSM and cannot run in Legacy according to this link:

UEFI for Windows 11: What You Need to Know

With the release of Windows 11 in October of 2021, hardware requirements have been a popular topic.You can check out our blog on Windows 11 hardware requirements for a list of the minimum Windows 11 requirements, but in this blog we’ll

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FDretired · Dec 22, 2021

THIS IS A NOVICE POST

Many of the posts above are Greek to me. At age 79 I am too old to learn a new language.

In my desktop I have 6 ssd. 3 are nvme. (one in nvme slot and the other 2 on pci adapter card)

I always played with linux in the smallest disk in bios mode. After updating my hardware I cannot install an operating system in bios mode.

I decided to install windows 10 on the small disk to test new programs that may be discussed on the forum.

I did not want a boot menu. I wanted windows 10 and 11 to have their own UEFI partitions.

This is how achieved it.
1) Make a Macrium Image of Windows 11 to D drive
2) Bootup with EaseUS usb drive
3) Deletes windows 11 and all the partitons in that drive.
4) Install a fresh copy of win 10 on the small "play ssd"
5) Boot again with Macrium usb drive and restore the image from the backup drive to the C drive.

My system boots to windows 11.

Now i have this choice.

If I bring up the boot menu (F8 for my motherboard) I have 2 items. Win 10 on the small disk and win 11 on the larger disk.

My order of my SSD got a bit jumped after my computer hardware was upgraded by a small computer shop.

I will boot to win 10 periodically when I experience nostalgia for win 10

SIW2 · Dec 22, 2021

octiceps said:
W7 doesn’t work in UEFI.

My win7 works beautifully in efi mode. I am posting from it now. Unless there is something weird about your bios, you should be able to.

You list a z370 but you didnt spec which one, dont know why there would any problem with that. Set csm on and secure boot off.

SIW2 · Dec 22, 2021

zbook said:
Windows 10 can run in either Legacy or UEFI native or UEFI hybrid.

Windows 11 requires UEFI without CSM and cannot run in Legacy according to this link:

UEFI for Windows 11: What You Need to Know

With the release of Windows 11 in October of 2021, hardware requirements have been a popular topic.You can check out our blog on Windows 11 hardware requirements for a list of the minimum Windows 11 requirements, but in this blog we’ll

www.onlogic.com

Round objects.

Until a few days ago ( when I get rid of it ) I had win11 running fine with csm enabled.

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