Error 1801 Telling me to update my Secure Boot CA/Keys?


At the end of the message in the details, it says “the operation was successful,” which contradicts the event classified as an error.
This event is really a warning, but it's classified as a critical error to get your attention.

If you failed to update the Secure Boot certs in your UEFI and have Secure Boot enabled and have banned the old certs, then your PC would fail to boot Windows. Your UEFI would have rejected the current boot file as insecure.

Which means Windows could not have booted, in order to inform you that the certs are out of date... :facepalm:

Therefore it's an information warning, because it's only hinting what could happen on a future reboot.
 

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I started noticing this on the 29th after I reseated my cpu(this set secure boot in my bios to Other Os and I had to set it back to windows). Weird that it wasn't happening beforehand with the update and secure boot was on because I was playing bf6 all month. Hopefully things go smoothly when they revoke/update certs.
 

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I started noticing this on the 29th after I reseated my cpu(this set secure boot in my bios to Other Os and I had to set it back to windows). Weird that it wasn't happening beforehand with the update and secure boot was on because I was playing bf6 all month. Hopefully things go smoothly when they revoke/update certs.
MS says the forced migration won't happen before 2026.
 

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I'm just curious why it started throwing the warning only after I reset secure boot after reseating my cpu and not before.
 

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This change was apparently rolled out in the previous Monthly Update (for everyone).

Most average users never check the event logs. This error is intended to alert IT admins and pro's, to do something sooner rather than later.
 

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No like I filtered the eventid and it only started happening on the 29th after I reseated my cpu. Nothing before that. And I had the update for a week prior to that.
 

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I'm doing nothing in the expectation all will be fixed via Windows Update with the possible exception of my aging 2014 Dell laptop,
 

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@garlin & @Buddywh

Thank you for your comments and all these details.

I will wait for Microsoft to publish the certificate renewal via Windows Update.

I think this is the safest option to avoid any manual errors.
 

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@garlin & @Buddywh

Thank you for your comments and all these details.

I will wait for Microsoft to publish the certificate renewal via Windows Update.

I think this is the safest option to avoid any manual errors.
So what to do? I have the Same problem, i have asrock pro rs b650m mobo and i tried to reset secure boot keys in bios to default, but it doesnt help. I sm on bios version 3.16.
 

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So what to do?
First thing to do is update your BIOS to the latest available and hope your manufacturer includes the keys as defaults in it. This is preferred since they become built-in to the BIOS as defaults that will always be there. But if your mfr. has abandoned your motherboard/system and doesn't provide updates that include updated keys, there are some easy ways to also get them:

1st is is easiest. That's to be sure to run in Secure Boot and enable reporting of diagnostics so that Microsoft can push out key updates over the next few weeks or months.

2nd if you can't wait is to make sure your Windows is fully up-to-date with latest updates, especially security updates. Then run the two following commands:

from Admin CMD Pormpt
Code:
reg add HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Secureboot /v AvailableUpdates /t REG_DWORD /d 0x5944 /f

from Admin Powershell
Code:
Start-ScheduledTask -TaskName "\Microsoft\Windows\PI\Secure-Boot-Update"

There's a third way that's somewhat more involved: download a utility called MOSBY and it's companion RUFUS from PBatard's GitHUB, read instructions on using them for updating all the keys and in addition closing a potential backdoor virtually all consumer systems and motherboards ship with at the same time.

There's a fourth way but it depends on whether your BIOS has capability for it, and you to find the certificates on Microsoft's GitHUB location. That's to append the key into each variable in BIOS. It also requires a bit more knowledge of the secure boot chain of trust.
 
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First thing to do is update your BIOS to the latest available and hope your manufacturer includes the keys as defaults in it. This is preferred since they become built-in to the BIOS as defaults that will always be there. But if your mfr. has abandoned your motherboard/system and doesn't provide updates that include updated keys, there are some easy ways to also get them:

1st is is easiest. That's to be sure to run in Secure Boot and enable reporting of diagnostics so that Microsoft can push out key updates over the next few weeks or months.

2nd if you can't wait is to make sure your Windows is fully up-to-date with latest updates, especially security updates. Then run the two following commands:

from Admin CMD Pormpt
Code:
reg add HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Secureboot /v AvailableUpdates /t REG_DWORD /d 0x5944 /f

from Admin Powershell
Code:
Start-ScheduledTask -TaskName "\Microsoft\Windows\PI\Secure-Boot-Update"

There's a third way that's somewhat more involved: download a utility called MOSBY and it's companion RUFUS from PBatard's GitHUB, read instructions on using them for updating all the keys and in addition closing a potential backdoor virtually all consumer systems and motherboards ship with at the same time.

There's a fourth way but it depends on whether your BIOS has capability for it, and you to find the certificates on Microsoft's GitHUB location. That's to append the key into each variable in BIOS. It also requires a bit more knowledge of the secure boot chain of trust.
Hell nah, this will need to to some kids when they just want to play valorant?
 

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Hell nah, this will need to do some kids when they just want to play valorant? There needs to be some easier way
 

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You're kind of missing the point.

Valorant (and other AAA games) are in a constant war with cheaters. Cheaters use kernel drivers to allow them to read and alter protected memory (your game). It's not enough to have an anti-cheat trying to monitor cheat code. So their solution is to enable Secure Boot and Core Integrity, which locks out kernel drivers that aren't signed by reputable Certificate Authorities.

If a CA does issue a valid signing cert to a cheat driver, the game publisher will pressure the CA to revoke the issued cert. MS updates the list of known revocations every week, and (to the game publisher) the problem disappears.

This all assumes you have Secure Boot working, so CI can be enabled. Your game publisher could care less whether you really need Secure Boot to protect your personal security, but they really need it as a tool to block cheating.
 

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You're kind of missing the point.

Valorant (and other AAA games) are in a constant war with cheaters. Cheaters use kernel drivers to allow them to read and alter protected memory (your game). It's not enough to have an anti-cheat trying to monitor cheat code. So their solution is to enable Secure Boot and Core Integrity, which locks out kernel drivers that aren't signed by reputable Certificate Authorities.

If a CA does issue a valid signing cert to a cheat driver, the game publisher will pressure the CA to revoke the issued cert. MS updates the list of known revocations every week, and (to the game publisher) the problem disappears.

This all assumes you have Secure Boot working, so CI can be enabled. Your game publisher could care less whether you really need Secure Boot to protect your personal security, but they really need it as a tool to block cheating.
So what i have to do with it. Simply
 

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So what i have to do with it. Simply
Can you or can you not start in Secure Boot now, and enable your TPM 2.0 device? If you can, do so, play Valorant, be happy. Windows will push the 2023 key updates into the computer firmware in due time.

Windows boots perfectly on 2011 keys and will continue to at least until mid-year 2026. Maybe much longer since the time frame I've seen for this roll-out is pretty sketchy. Updating secure boot keys won't 'fix' any problems you're having right now with running Valorant.
 
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I chose the first option : to wait for Microsoft to publish the new certificates during a Windows Update.

My BIOS has the latest version and is already set to secure boot. So now I just have to wait for the update.

In any case, ordinary users who don't know anything about it won't be manipulating command lines, and the update will be performed automatically and transparently.
 

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Can you or can you not start in Secure Boot now, and enable your TPM 2.0 device? If you can, do so, play Valorant, be happy. Windows will push the 2023 key updates into the computer firmware in due time.

Windows boots perfectly on 2011 keys and will continue to at least until mid-year 2026. Maybe much longer since the time frame I've seen for this roll-out is pretty sketchy. Updating secure boot keys won't 'fix' any problems you're having right now with running Valorant.
Yes i can, but there is the error.
 

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Yes i can, but there is the error.
Ignore it and it will go away once Microsoft pushes the updates into firmware for you.
 

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