Solved FreeFileSync vs RoboCopy


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In terms of having a user data backup on an external medium/SSD, how do the two compare?

RoboCopy works with source and destination disks that are both BitLockered (I use it that way) Can FreeFileSync do the same?

Where do I come from? Like some of us here, I see only some need for disk imaging and more need for user data backup.

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You missed me! So far I've written 21,249 words in 99 threads on that topic. Well, something like that anyway. ;-)

So let me understand...... you want to back up all your data files to someplace other than your main HD, and easily be able to keep that update file, UP TO DATE! Did I get that right?

Using what's already available in Windows, I do that quickly and easily, in just seconds actually.
I just wrote a very simple DOS Batch file, incorporating "XCOPY" and I've told it to backup any file that's not already in the Backup folder.
Of course, the first time I ran it, all my data files got backed up, and that took several minutes. But on subsequent backups, only files that are new or have been updated, like a spreadsheet, are copied. That backup will take only a few seconds, and all I had to do was click on the shortcut to the Batch File. Click! Click! Job done!

I didn't have to buy anything, download anything, install anything or set up anything.;-)1688513600919.png
I probably shouldn't do this, but here's just one line from my Backup.bat program.

XCOPY /D /S /C /I /H /R /y /J "D:\My Docs\." "E:\My Docs\"

In the above example, all my data files are actually IN folders on my D: drive (Second partition of my main SSD), and E: is my 128 GB USB Flash Drive.
I can, and do, ALSO backup my data files to a 1TB HD inside my Desktop PC, using a separate batch file.
Although, it's possible to do them both from just one batch file. I just elected to keep them separate.

Y'all have a great day now, Y'hear?
TM :cool:
 
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I really couldn’t tell you anything about FreeStyleSync/RealTimeSync using Bitlocker, but what I can tell you is that I think FreeStyleSync is one of the greatest lifesaving free softwares available. I like it so much I donate regularly.

FYI ( From FreeStyleSync)
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" I think FreeStyleSync is one of the greatest lifesaving free softwares available"
AGREE !!!!!
 

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Ha! I actually meant Free*FileSync. I should learn to proof read.
 

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I use both extensively, so I feel well prepared to compare...

I'll start right off by saying that I too am a huge fan of FreeFileSync. There are a few things that it does exceptionally well.

First, it's really good for removable media. One of the problems with removable media is that the drive letter assigned is subject to change. So, rather than use a drive letter, you can specify the removable media using the volume GUID. The volume GUID will always be the same on a particular machine. However, being removable media, you might take that drive to another computer. There it will have a different volume GUID. So, FreeFileSync offers yet another option: Specify the drive by the volume label. Robocopy can do none of this.

Next up, suppose you manage a set of folders where you frequently rename files or move file from one folder to another. Robocopy doesn't handle this very gracefully. As a very simple example, suppose I have a source folder that has a file called "Win 11 ISO Image.iso" and I mirror that to a destination folder on another drive. Now, I rename that file to "Win 11 22H2 ISO Image.iso". Robocopy has no clue that this is the same file so next time you do a replication it has to copy the whole file over again. Since this is several GB, it could take a little while. FreeFileSysnc knows that the file was simply renamed and so it will simply rename the file on the destination almost instantly. It goes a step further in that it can even figure out if you moved a file to another folder. I recently restructured a bunch of folders holding about 7 TB (yes, TB, not GB) of data. Robocopy would have taken many, many hours to handle this. FreeFileSync did it in mere seconds.

You also get better monitoring of progress with FreeFileSync and a whole lot more.

On the other hand, if I have to script file operations it's so easy with Robocopy. Also, my code can be portable because everyone has Robocopy on their system. In particular, I have a program that I've written that includes an extensive amount of file copying / moving, etc. I call Robocopy from within the program to make my life easy because Robocopy has a wealth of options available.
 

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@hsehestedt Does FreeFileSync work with BitLocker?
 

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Yes. I use BitLocker on all my drives, and FreeFileSync works flawlessly with them.

FreeFileSync works at the file level, not block level. So, no special support for BitLocker is needed because that is handled automatically by the OS. Think of it like this:

Imagine another program such as Notepad. If you open a text document on a BitLocker drive, you don't need to do anything special. When you access the file, the system automatically decrypts the file and hands it to Notepad. It's the same thing for FileSync. So long as you have unlocked the drive, the file system handles all those encryption and decryption details for you on the fly and automatically.

Hope this helps!
 

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Thanks to all who responded and a special thanks to @hsehestedt (y) I will mark this thread 'Solved' 😀
 

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@hsehestedt provides such helpful insight and of such detailed quality and testing, he should be given special guru status on reputation alone.
 

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@hsehestedt provides such helpful insight and of such detailed quality and testing, he should be given special guru status on reputation alone.
You are just way too kind! But I feel like that applies to so many persons here - including you!

I hate social media. I really do. But these forums are very different. We have so many people here who just want to help others to get the most out of this thing called Windows that we all love so much (well, we love it most of the time). It's a great place to interact with others and leave all the stupid politics and ugliness of the world behind.

Thanks again for the kind words, glasskuter!
 

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FreeFileSync is primarily a file sync tool that focuses on comparing and syncing files and folders between different locations. It does not offer the same functionality as RoboCopy for working with BitLocker-encrypted disks. RoboCopy can handle various advanced copying scenarios, including working with BitLocker-encrypted disks.
And when it comes to user data backup, using an external medium/SSD and tools like RoboCopy or FreeFileSync can be an effective approach. You can use RoboCopy to create a mirror backup of your important files and folders from your encrypted disk to the external medium. Similarly, FreeFileSync can help you keep your files synchronized between your source and destination disks.
 

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FreeFileSync is primarily a file sync tool that focuses on comparing and syncing files and folders between different locations. It does not offer the same functionality as RoboCopy for working with BitLocker-encrypted disks.
It may not have the same functionality but FFS can still work with BLF’s
 

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    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7 14IRL8 - Type 82YL
    CPU
    13th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-1340P Processor(Core™ i5-1340P)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5-5200
    Graphics card(s)
    1x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512 GB SSD PCIe
    Mouse
    Logiteck MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    2000/500
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.


    Wireless Network: Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 AX; Bluetooth® 5.1 or above
    Ports: 1x 1 Novo button; 2 in 1 Audio Combo jack; Micro SD Card Reader; HDMI 1.4b; 2 x USB Type-C (TBT4)
    USB 3.2 Gen 2 DP 1.4a
    PD 3.0); 1 x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type A
    Camera
    1x 1080P FHD IR/RGB Hybrid with Privacy Shutter and Dual Array Microphone
    Graphics
    1x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Monitor
    14" WUXGA
    Form Factor
    Convertible Notebook
  • Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.9168 (Wifes)

    Yoga 7 2-in-1 14IML9 - Type 83DJ

    Processor: Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 155H Processor(Core™ Ultra 7 155H)

    Memory: 32GB LPD5X-7467

    Hard Drive: 1 TB SSD PCIe

    Wireless Network: 1x Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 AX; Bluetooth® 5.1 or above

    Ports: 1 x HDMI 2.1 TMDS; 1 x Novo Button; 1 x Combo Audio Jack
    2 x USB-C (USB 4.0)
    1 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1

    Camera: 1080P FHD IR Hybrid with Dual Microphone

    Graphics: Intel® Arc™ Graphics

    Monitor: 14" 2.8K

    ...Where's my horse?
BitLocker has zero effect on the ability of a utility like FreeFileSync to operate. Any file that FFS reads is decrypted by BL on the fly, therefore BL is a non-issue.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro 26H2 (Release Preview)Intel i7-14650HX32 GBNo GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    OS
    Win11 Pro 26H2 (Release Preview)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic Matrix M5
    CPU
    Intel i7-14650HX
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Varies as machine will often be moved to locations with different monitors
    Screen Resolution
    Varies
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB Gen 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    120W Power Brick
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro 26H2 (Release Preview)Intel i7-1255U16 GBIntel Iris Xe Graphics
    Operating System
    Win11 Pro 26H2 (Release Preview)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    4 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging Using an Anker 160W Charger
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
How do you specify the drive by the volume level?

First, it's really good for removable media. One of the problems with removable media is that the drive letter assigned is subject to change. So, rather than use a drive letter, you can specify the removable media using the volume GUID. The volume GUID will always be the same on a particular machine. However, being removable media, you might take that drive to another computer. There it will have a different volume GUID. So, FreeFileSync offers yet another option: Specify the drive by the volume label. Robocopy can do none of this.
 

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At a glance

windows 10
OS
windows 10
Computer type
PC/Desktop
I'll get a screen shot when I get back in front of my other machine, but on either the source or destination where you have specified the drive and path, click the down arrow to the right. This will display the label and GUID for that drive. Click either one to use it. This will replace the drive letter with your selection.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro 26H2 (Release Preview)Intel i7-14650HX32 GBNo GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    OS
    Win11 Pro 26H2 (Release Preview)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic Matrix M5
    CPU
    Intel i7-14650HX
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Varies as machine will often be moved to locations with different monitors
    Screen Resolution
    Varies
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB Gen 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    120W Power Brick
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro 26H2 (Release Preview)Intel i7-1255U16 GBIntel Iris Xe Graphics
    Operating System
    Win11 Pro 26H2 (Release Preview)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    4 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging Using an Anker 160W Charger
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
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My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro 26H2 (Release Preview)Intel i7-14650HX32 GBNo GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    OS
    Win11 Pro 26H2 (Release Preview)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic Matrix M5
    CPU
    Intel i7-14650HX
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Varies as machine will often be moved to locations with different monitors
    Screen Resolution
    Varies
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB Gen 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    120W Power Brick
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro 26H2 (Release Preview)Intel i7-1255U16 GBIntel Iris Xe Graphics
    Operating System
    Win11 Pro 26H2 (Release Preview)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    4 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging Using an Anker 160W Charger
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
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