Get back the old tooltips popup only & without extras nor interference with other active apps..


delicacy

Member
Local time
11:41 PM
Posts
75
OS
Win11 Pro, 24H2 26100.2152
Even with the startallback option, & without 7+ taskbar that i can't use on win11, i still get a stupid tooltip
wrapped in a skin.. Plus!.. the old classic tooltip popup which is the only one i need, but it's extremely delayed
before appearing & tooltips disappeared on the desktop sadly & without wish.

By getting rid of thumbnails & not tooltips which was my initial purpose,

How can i definitely avoid Only the skinned tooltip & get the normal tooltip
without both appearing & even less thumbnails that finally disappeared ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Pro, 24H2 26100.2152
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    lenovo
can you use win+prsc to get a screencap of what you're describing so i can run a test on disabling what you want?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
Here it is Dacrone:

X.webp
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Pro, 24H2 26100.2152
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    lenovo
If you're referring to badges on taskbar icons, there is no need for any 3rd party app to accomplish that.
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot 2025-02-13 190137.webp
    Screenshot 2025-02-13 190137.webp
    30.5 KB · Views: 1

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3775
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3775
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Motherboard
    stock Dell
    Memory
    24 gb
    Graphics card(s)
    integrated
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
check this GPO (since you have the classic taskbar enabled)

User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Start Menu and Taskbar > Remove Balloon Tips on Start Menu Items = ENABLED

or registry to same setting:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced
new > DWORD = "EnableBalloonTips" and value = "0"
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
Glasskuter, i unfortunately can't test the tweak as the crappy option is greyed out ?

1739496499146.webp
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Pro, 24H2 26100.2152
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    lenovo
badges are notification style overlays, like when you have a new message for an app, etc. they aren't tooltips
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
your tweak has no action on what i've shown you dacrone, do i need to log off/log on ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Pro, 24H2 26100.2152
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    lenovo
possibly. not sure if restarting explorer will apply it. log off and back on is best bet to see if it will apply changes
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
result: no change.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Pro, 24H2 26100.2152
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    lenovo
with winaero - reenable thumbnails so its back to default settings. once there, apply that reg and check again. wondering if too many mods are creating conflicts
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
the only effect is that now the crappy skinned infos i don't need returns faster.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Pro, 24H2 26100.2152
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    lenovo
thats odd.. when i have thumbails enabled (never messed with them) and i have win 7 taskbar enabled via startallback... here is what i get:

non-open program tooltip:

1739499771667.webp

open program tooltip:

1739499807534.webp

ok, with how yours is.. i think the next thing we should try would be to substantially increase the delay show time for tooltips. let me dig up that reg and i'll post back

@delicacy EDIT:
try this and see if it will take effect on the windows 7 startallback taskbar:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
Didn't take the time to login, i got what you meant..
i changed the ExtendedUIHoverTime to 10000000
& of course the crappy skinned popup doesn't return,

but i still don't know how to have the non skinned tooltips
instead .. .
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Pro, 24H2 26100.2152
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    lenovo

7+ should work in windows 11.. but aside from that, ok.. revert all changes we've played with so far. set the win 7 taskbar via startallback, do nothing related to thumbnails via winaerotweaker, install 7+ and set hover to tooltip and check it.

you said you can get 7+ to run on your pc.. does it give an error message?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
for one, the author michael said it doesn't support win11 & proposed me to go check winhawk..
i installed 7+ a few days back & the whole options interface remained greyed out
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Pro, 24H2 26100.2152
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    lenovo
that user in the link above had it working as of 2024... did you try running it in compatibility mode?

EDIT: you can try disabling aeropeek.. not sure if it will take effect on SAB or not..

PowerShell as Admin:
Code:
IF(!(Get-ItemProperty -Path HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Windows\DWM -Name EnableAeroPeek -ErrorAction 0)){
New-ItemProperty -Path HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Windows\DWM -Name EnableAeroPeek -PropertyType DWORD -Value 0
}
Set-ItemProperty -Path HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Windows\DWM -Name EnableAeroPeek -Value 0
 
Last edited:

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
it stays greyed out even tweaking compatibility.. i even tried latest beta
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Pro, 24H2 26100.2152
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    lenovo
Michael told me the other day:
Note that 7+ Taskbar Tweaker doesn't support Windows 11 version 24H2
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Pro, 24H2 26100.2152
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    lenovo
must be the 24h2 then. ok lets try this combo of reg entries:

Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced
New DWORD "ExtendedUIHoverTime" value = "9000" decimal

restart explorer (or sign out/in again) *yes, must do this before other reg entry*

Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Taskband
New DWORD "NumThumbnails" value = "0"

restart explorer (or sign out/in again)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro

Latest Support Threads

Back
Top Bottom