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kai90s

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Hello everybody...
So I have z390i gaming rog strix..with Rtx Asus dual 4060 oc..on bios under bus interface..I see this msg everytime upon boot..is it normal ?..
Sometimes I have frame rate spikes while gaming etc aswell..
Is my GPU not detected in bios..?!!..
 
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I see that you've been checking other forums about this.

Is CSM disabled?

If your Rtx 4060 Asus dual has a dual BIOS switch, try the other position.

Have you tried clearing the CMOS?

(Some of this is from a Copilot search. There are entries there about problems with the RTX 4060 and the Z390i, but some point back to your posts.)

I'm not optimistic that any of these will help. The closest I've ever come to it was having to clear the CMOS when swapping in a new GPU. But in that case, I didn't get a display at all.

Good luck.
 

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Yes csm disabled.
Whole system is running UEFI.
Resize bar on..above 4g decoding on..etc reset CMOS latest bios update 3006..etc..
On windows GPU seems to work fine.
Just isn't detected within bios mode
 

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Does the RTX 4060 show up properly in Device Manager?
 

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Check your DirectX is operating normally with the latest version,v12.This is an essential component for gaming in Win 11
To access it,in the Search box,type in ---dxdiag ---
Also check Reliability History for any entries.
Once again,in the Search box, start typing ---reliability---to access it.
 

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bobkn said:
Does the RTX 4060 show up properly in Device Manager?
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it is detected with device manager just not in bios mode.
on windows it works well the gpu..
 

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kai90s said:
it is detected with device manager just not in bios mode.
on windows it works well the gpu..
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If you've installed the latest BIOS for the MB, then I believe you're stuck with it.

I'd refer you to Asus support, but I'd be surprised if their outsourced support had that covered in their scripts. I once saw an Asus customer response that claimed that support told him that the issue was due to using a non-Asus RTX 4060, but they can't pull that on you.

An unrelated, and not the least helpful, question: why are you using a mini ITX motherboard in a full-sized system? Just curious. I hope that availability isn't that poor in Israel.
 

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bobkn said:
If you've installed the latest BIOS for the MB, then I believe you're stuck with it.

I'd refer you to Asus support, but I'd be surprised if their outsourced support had that covered in their scripts. I once saw an Asus customer response that claimed that support told him that the issue was due to using a non-Asus RTX 4060, but they can't pull that on you.

An unrelated, and not the least helpful, question: why are you using a mini ITX motherboard in a full-sized system? Just curious. I hope that availability isn't that poor in Israel.
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At that time in 2018 it was Mobo I could pick.
I think I might get new Mobo z390 e gaming.
 

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kai90s said:
At that time in 2018 it was Mobo I could pick.
I think I might get new Mobo z390 e gaming.
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I supposed that it wasn't an error.

I see that the Z390 chipset is the newest that supports an I7-9700k CPU.

If you wished to keep your DDR4 RAM and were willing to update the CPU as well as the motherboard, you could go LGA1700 (Gen12, 13, or 14 Intel CPU. Like an I7-14700k.) I imagine you know that better than I do.
 

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bobkn said:
I supposed that it wasn't an error.

I see that the Z390 chipset is the newest that supports an I7-9700k CPU.

If you wished to keep your DDR4 RAM and were willing to update the CPU as well as the motherboard, you could go LGA1700 (Gen12, 13, or 14 Intel CPU. Like an I7-14700k.) I imagine you know that better than I do.
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it seems like it is not..yes..just a greyed out msg..
under pcie configuration i can see gpu running at native x1...
so i suppose it is running..yesss..
iam upgrading gpu..to rtx 3070 v2..its a sweet 8 core 8 thread system that i have built so far..yea..and i like it..
just need to get better atx board and gpu. later i will add one more stick 16 gb ram mem.
 

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bobkn said:
If you've installed the latest BIOS for the MB, then I believe you're stuck with it.
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That doesn't sound like motherboard firmware/ bios, but like firmware / bios of the graphics card! If the graphivs card can't be initialized correctly, there's no video device for the system at boot. Afterwards the windows driver 'takes over', but basic steps of initializing the card might be missing.

Firmware / bios of the graphics card normally has two parts, UEFI and legacy bios. With Windows UEFI secure boot enabled the UEFI firmware of the graphics card would be needed.

There can be different reasons for the UEFI firmware of the graphivs card not working, might be the firmeware self, might be the certificate for third party firmware in bios. is this a new error? Did you update mainboard certificates?

You might try to disable secure boot and enable CMS (with legacy option rom checked for graphics) and see if this changes anything.

You might try another graphics card known good for Windows secure boot.

(For earlier models og Nvidia and AMD graphivs card there were unofficial tools to update the firmware, but I don'r know if these tools still exist for something as new as a 4070...)
 

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t2s50 said:
That doesn't sound like motherboard firmware/ bios, but like firmware / bios of the graphics card! If the graphivs card can't be initialized correctly, there's no video device for the system at boot. Afterwards the windows driver 'takes over', but basic steps of initializing the card might be missing.

Firmware / bios of the graphics card normally has two parts, UEFI and legacy bios. With Windows UEFI secure boot enabled the UEFI firmware of the graphics card would be needed.

There can be different reasons for the UEFI firmware of the graphivs card not working, might be the firmeware self, might be the certificate for third party firmware in bios. is this a new error? Did you update mainboard certificates?

You might try to disable secure boot and enable CMS (with legacy option rom checked for graphics) and see if this changes anything.

You might try another graphics card known good for Windows secure boot.

(For earlier models og Nvidia and AMD graphivs card there were unofficial tools to update the firmware, but I don'r know if these tools still exist for something as new as a 4070...)
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Is this rephrased from an AI result?
 

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t2s50 said:
No AI formulations, never searched this in AI and english isn't even my native language.
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It reminded me of the broad-ranging stuff I get when I try a Copilot search.

I'm also skeptical that an RTX 4060 would have an outdated VBIOS.
 

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bobkn said:
It reminded me of the broad-ranging stuff I get when I try a Copilot search.
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Can't help you here, don't use AI too often, and never tried copilot.

bobkn said:
I'm also skeptical that an RTX 4060 would have an outdated VBIOS.
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Didn't write the firmware of the card being outdated, just that the mainboard doesn't recognize the cards firmware and this isn't necessarily the mainboards fault.
 

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t2s50 said:
Can't help you here, don't use AI too often, and never tried copilot.


Didn't write the firmware of the card being outdated, just that the mainboard doesn't recognize the cards firmware and this isn't necessarily the mainboards fault.
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Copilot claims that Copilot uses OpenAI, plus other models.

I use it when I need to start a search that I think is too complex for a simple keyword search. But it's risky: outright false responses are common. (No, I found no errors in your response, and I don't mean to imply that.)

GPU firmware issues are something I don't pretend to understand.

I regard nVidia-based GPUs as mostly interchangeable, but that may not be close to being true.
 

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    windows 11 26200.8728Intel I9-13900K64GB G.Skill DDR5-6000Gigabyte RTX 3090 ti
    Operating System
    windows 11 26200.8728
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel I9-13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus RoG Strix Z690-E
    Memory
    64GB G.Skill DDR5-6000
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 3090 ti
    Sound Card
    built in Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27E1N8900 27" OLED
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WDC SN850 1TB
    8TB Seagate Ironwolf
    4TB Seagate Ironwolf
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 1300 GT
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo
    Cooling
    Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Cherry Streaming (wired)
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
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