Solved Heads up: Before you update your BIOS


I think the valid point of this OP's warning is not that updating bios will cause a problem,but that it can. The regulars here already know my opinions against using any kind of Windows Hello as well as bitlocker.
Updating a BIOS has always come with risks. It's why it helps to know what you're doing and how to escape a situation should one arise.

And now that I know what to expect, I know how to deal with it. And the solution is rather simple. And I see Windows Hello as a useful security feature. That's me.

As for using Window's Hello / BitLocker understanding is key. I have no issues using either but that's me. And it's not like you get a BIOS update every day, but your system's security is tested every day.

Again, that's me.
 

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As for using Window's Hello / BitLocker understanding is key. I have no issues using either but that's me. And it's not like you get a BIOS update every day, but your system's security is tested every day.

Again, that's me.
Security is especially important to me as I use a mobile computer. I spent a good bit of time reading about and understanding Windows Hello and BitLocker. I wouldn't leave home without them! :cool:

That's me too. :hug:
 

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Security is especially important to me as I use a mobile computer. I spent a good bit of time reading about and understanding Windows Hello and BitLocker. I wouldn't leave home without them! :cool:

That's me too. :hug:
Yes, Windows Hello / BitLocker is really useful for mobile devices.

And BitLocker is especially useful by requiring the BL key to unlock the drive should it to be installed in another machine.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.3296)
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    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
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    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
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    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
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    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
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    Cooler Master H500M
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    Logitech Craft
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    Gigabyte GA-Z270X-GAMING 8
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    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum (3333Mhz)
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    3 Samsung SSD drives: 1x 512gig 950 NVMe drive (OS drive), 1 x 512gig 850 Pro, 1x 256gig 840 Pro.
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    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 watt)
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    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
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    Corsair H100i
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    Logitech MX Master
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    Logitech MK 710
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    100MB
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    Edge Chromium
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    Windows Security
    Other Info
    This is my backup system.
Wished I'd read this post before I updated my BIOS when trying to sort out a trackpad issue, as I just asked that question on the HP site. Thankfully I've got my passwords handy. A BIOS update isn't that common so I might just get rid of the PIN and go back to using a password.
 

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    Trackpad has never worked properly since day 1. The same with the new replacement one as well. 2/3 of left side becomes sluggish and then unresponsive and the left button also becomes unresponsive. Lots of people with problem but HP won't acknowledge or fix it.
Hi, I just want to follow up on this: Today I did another BIOS update and I loaded the default BIOS settings and Windows did not ask for the password. Then, I did a full CMOS reset (with a screwdriver). Even then, Windows did not ask for the password and it seems the TPM (Intel CPU integrated) did not reset.
It is even less clear to me now what the precise conditions are that cause Windows to ask for the password.

Update: Just now, minutes later, I am getting a warning by Windows Security:

Screenshot 2022-11-05 113247.png

So this time, Windows allowed me to login without password but it still wants me to reset the pin
 

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    Intel® Core i7-12700K
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    Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE DDR4 (rev. 1.0)

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