how to uninstall new "Windows Backup" bloat app?


So you decide you want to do a clean install, but do not want hassle of redoing all settings.

Oh look, MS have added a new tool to do that!

I can see the posts now
"Oh dear, I deleted it as I thought I would never need it. How do I get it back blah blah blah"

I cannot see any sound reason to remove it other than OCD!

Ah but it is bloat say (imo silly) people. No it is not bloat - I bet it takes up virtually no space, and of course no resources unless you need to use it.

Get a grip guys!
 

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I'm sorry to break it to you cereberus but this is, indeed a bloat app for those of us who do not and neither ever will care to use Microsoft's OneDrive. It may not be a bloat app for those that care to use it but calling out people by names for not wanting an app they know they won't be using is really not a good idea. This forum is for people that are deeper into the OS and hence people that more technical, not people that do not know basics of how to use their daily driver Windows computer. Having this app in here is very annoying for people like me and no, we will never encounter an issue that we have deleted the app but "need" it now. I shall be looking forwards to more responses on how to remove this from my Start Menu, like many others on this and other similar threads. As of this moment, I'm deleting each and every related "Windows Backup" entry in registry on my system - To stay safe, I have also deleted only the new Windows Backup program's .exe from C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy directory mentioned in an response earlier by mrc00l88, as well as WindowsBackup.dll and the other file related to it but have kept rest of the directory intact.

Sigh Another app useless for people that do not wish to use Microsoft's apps..
 
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........As of this moment, I'm deleting each and every related "Windows Backup" entry in registry on my system - To stay safe, I have also deleted only the new Windows Backup program's .exe from C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy directory mentioned in an response earlier by mrc00l88, as well as WindowsBackup.dll and the other file related to it but have kept rest of the directory intact.

Sigh Another app useless for people that do not wish to use Microsoft's apps..

Did doing the above, make any change to the Start Menu?
 

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Don't mind if its technically installed (I checked REVO, etc - don't see it listed as an 'app') -- just want to remove it from the Start Menu!
If it is run at 'Startup', you can disable it with Task Manager. These are my 'Startup' entries -

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Go to the 'Startup Apps' tab and right-click the 'Status' value you want to change.

 

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Did doing the above, make any change to the Start Menu?
Sadly, no. It is still present. It's probably not in the Registry or I could have had missed it.

IanMosley:
If it is run at 'Startup', you can disable it with Task Manager.
It seems that it is not a startup app as it does not start with the computer or when you log-in to your Windows account. The program is apparently a SystemApp which you can easily remove by deleting only the files that are named "WindowsBackup" from "C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy" location. You do not want to touch anything else or you will break your system. You are only interested in 3 files named "WindowsBackup", one of them being .exe for Windows Backup program, other a .DLL library associated with it, and there's also 3rd one that I can not remember file extension of. In the end, we are at least trying to remove Windows Backup entry from Start Menu which no one so far has figured out a solution for.
 

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I think, just to eliminate the entry from the Start Menu, you have to modify the appxmanifest in some convoluted manner!

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I did it successfully once..., I said once!!! :cool:
 

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When updating Client.CBS's AppxManifest.xml, your edits are likely to be clobbered by the next Monthly CU.
 

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When updating Client.CBS's AppxManifest.xml, your edits are likely to be clobbered by the next Monthly CU.
True dat!!! (y)

Waddaya gonna do!!! 🤷‍♂️
 

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I'm sorry to break it to you cereberus but this is, indeed a bloat app for those of us who do not and neither ever will care to use Microsoft's OneDrive. It may not be a bloat app for those that care to use it but calling out people by names for not wanting an app they know they won't be using is really not a good idea. This forum is for people that are deeper into the OS and hence people that more technical, not people that do not know basics of how to use their daily driver Windows computer. Having this app in here is very annoying for people like me and no, we will never encounter an issue that we have deleted the app but "need" it now. I shall be looking forwards to more responses on how to remove this from my Start Menu, like many others on this and other similar threads. As of this moment, I'm deleting each and every related "Windows Backup" entry in registry on my system - To stay safe, I have also deleted only the new Windows Backup program's .exe from C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy directory mentioned in an response earlier by mrc00l88, as well as WindowsBackup.dll and the other file related to it but have kept rest of the directory intact.

Sigh Another app useless for people that do not wish to use Microsoft's apps..
Rubbish - you can apply this definition of bloat to anything e.g. winword or paint.

The OS will always contain features not used by all users. By your definition virtually everything is bloat then!

Just ignore it and move on (as I am sure everybody else does).
 

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I don't think it's per se the number of apps --these days disk space isn't an issue -- but it's how unobtrusive they are when doing non recreational stuff with your machine.

I'f I'm in the middle of a complex EXCEL "What IF" say type of query the last thing I need are a zillion "reminders" from Ms Store saying Xbox etc is being updated - or we've got suggested new apps for you etc etc. I also don't want to have to scroll through an endless set of apps to find what I'm looking for either (although that can be avoidable via judicious use of short cuts etc.

I still think on a PRO version all the recreational / non business stuff should be "optionally installable" by the user or a "gaming etc version" of Windows should be available.

However I wouldn't advise just willy nilly removing "built in apps" unless one knows exactly what one is doing and also be prepared for random glitches.

I do think though if Ms is going to release some sort of built in backup facility for the OS then it should be decent and fit for purpose. They must have one around even if only used internally since the Windows.old file usually created after you update to a new build allows a restore back to the previous build and it's not usually a huge file either -- so there is obviously some nascent evidence of a seemingly OK robust basic backup system.

cheers
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I think, just to eliminate the entry from the Start Menu, you have to modify the appxmanifest in some convoluted manner!

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I did it successfully once..., I said once!!! :cool:
Is this AppxManifest.xml file in same location as the Windows Backup executable file? If possible, would you also mind sharing the modified file or changes you applied to it (in text/quote format) to hide it from Start Menu? If you do, really big thank you. Me and others who are reading this thread are really going to appreciate it to not mess up our systems.
 

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I've never figured out why so many users post on here that any app they don't want/need is 'bloat'. That app is likely only a few MB in size, it won't make much difference to the system drive space!

I'm sure Apple install apps/software people don't use as well!

Each to their own I guess...

Windows is designed for many different uses cases. That doesn't mean that something not needed by one user is necessarily 'bloat'
If MS stripped EVERYTHING out that users call 'bloat' it would just be a shell, and non-experienced users would then be messing around trying to install browsers, email clients, backup apps, photo apps etc.

Bloat to me would be if the Windows Backup app used 200-300MB to do a simple task! Or something like WinZip which installs a load of other crap that has nothing to do with it's main purpose - compressing/decompressing files. Now THAT'S bloat!
 

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I don't really give a :poop: about the app, seeing as I'm not using it, but...
I want my Start Menu condensed to only the shortcuts I need to access,
the categorized section, with Letters is a waste of space, I don't want to see a scroll bar either, if possible.
(and, yes, the Windows Backup App installed without my knowledge or consent on W10)

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I've never figured out why so many users post on here that any app they don't want/need is 'bloat'. That app is likely only a few MB in size, it won't make much difference to the system drive space!

I'm sure Apple install apps/software people don't use as well!

Each to their own I guess...

Windows is designed for many different uses cases. That doesn't mean that something not needed by one user is necessarily 'bloat'
If MS stripped EVERYTHING out that users call 'bloat' it would just be a shell, and non-experienced users would then be messing around trying to install browsers, email clients, backup apps, photo apps etc.

Bloat to me would be if the Windows Backup app used 200-300MB to do a simple task! Or something like WinZip which installs a load of other crap that has nothing to do with it's main purpose - compressing/decompressing files. Now THAT'S bloat!
That is a fair response. I can see why you do not consider Windows Backup bloat. However, bloat does not have to be super big to be called out as bloatware necessarily. For me, size is just one of defining factors of bloatware software. The difference in Windows is, if you know what you are doing, you can remove and change virtually everything about it - Everyone can already do it if they want to. Just have that be an accessible option for users by default and threads like these will be appearing much less frequently. I have already mentioned it, at least in my own response, why I consider Windows Backup to be bloat. It has been installed in an upcoming update to my machine which I did not agree to. It also advertises one and one service only, which is from Microsoft and does not make users aware that alternative solutions or built-in into Windows tools exist. In addition to that, it has also been pushed onto a system that is soon to be killed off and become unsupported but which has not received much other updates beyond that for a while now. Lastly, one more idea - If they want to make a good backup app that their customers won't complain about.. Why does it not allow backing up to local drives as one option? That does not involve advertising other services or making users aware of them - Windows Backup app does not allow that. So, why exactly, not offer that option? It is an integrated part of system after all, but we only have cloud upload available through it.
 
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... would you also mind sharing the modified file or changes you applied to it
I didn't!
I tried it on some other app, ages ago!
Can't even remember what I did!
I'm not gonna mess with this one either! Sorry.
 

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I didn't!
I tried it on some other app, ages ago!
Can't even remember what I did!
I'm not gonna mess with this one either! Sorry.
Oh, that is my bad for misunderstanding. No need to worry. Maybe others on here will experiment with your solution and try to apply it to Windows Backup however, seeing as the app's Start Menu entry isn't in Registry, Start Menu locations or any of the other known places so far.
 

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This is what a proper Start Menu should function and appear as..., a non-live functioning portion of the UI, period!

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It doesn't need a Runtime Broker operating behind it, for feck sakes!

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Yeah, they wanna sell you stuff..., cuz they know damn well all your junk is not gonna fit on a lousy 5GB of cloud storage!
It's called clever marketing..., sorry, it's called clever coercion!

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That is a fair response. I can see why you do not consider Windows Backup bloat. However, bloat does not have to be super big to be called out as bloatware necessarily. For me, size is just one of defining factors of bloatware software. The difference in Windows is, if you know what you are doing, you can remove and change virtually everything about it - Everyone can already do it if they want to. Just have that be an accessible option for users by default and threads like these will be appearing much less frequently. I have already mentioned it, at least in my own response, why I consider Windows Backup to be bloat. It has been installed in an upcoming update to my machine which I did not agree to. It also advertises one and one service only, which is from Microsoft and does not make users aware that alternative solutions or built-in into Windows tools exist. In addition to that, it has also been pushed onto a system that is soon to be killed off and become unsupported but which has not received much other updates beyond that for a while now. Lastly, one more idea - If they want to make a good backup app that their customers won't complain about.. Why does it not allow backing up to local drives as one option? That does not involve advertising other services or making users aware of them - Windows Backup app does not allow that. So, why exactly, not offer that option? It is an integrated part of system after all, but we only have cloud upload available through it.
Because you do NOT own your copy of Windows, Microsoft does, and if they want to push their products & advertising then that is their right, if they want to test products on soon to be discontinued operating system versions then that is their right as well, so is making features uninstallable or not, they do not have to get your permission to make changes to their products or even notify you of certain changes.
Microsoft is a business, run to make profit, so obviously they will promote their services and products at every opportunity, like every other business trying to make a profit.

You are obviously right about what one person considers bloat may not be bloat according to someone else and everyone is free to try to customise their Windows install however they want and I wish you luck with that.
 

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