Hundreds of Brother printer models have an unpatchable security flaw


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mine is not affected... Yay! at least one win with all the b.s. of daily life
 

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Mine not affected either as it's only USB connected, not networked.
 

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I don't get it: How is a user not changing the default password a fault of Brother?

Yes, I get that the default password changes from device to device and the vulnerability is that a hacker can determine that default PW based upon the serial number, but honestly, are we going to blame Brother for a user fault?

This scheme sounds a lot better than some companies who make the default password on EVERY single device "admin".

Sometimes I think these web sites just want to publish sensational headlines for the clicks.
 

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hsehestedt said:
I don't get it: How is a user not changing the default password a fault of Brother?

Yes, I get that the default password changes from device to device and the vulnerability is that a hacker can determine that default PW based upon the serial number, but honestly, are we going to blame Brother for a user fault?

This scheme sounds a lot better than some companies who make the default password on EVERY single device "admin".

Sometimes I think these web sites just want to publish sensational headlines for the clicks.
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This sounds like Brother deliberately put in a backdoor so a tech support or field repair person can access the printer, even if you forgot the original password. Rather than just "randomly" creating passwords from the factory.
 

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garlin said:
This sounds like Brother deliberately put in a backdoor so a tech support or field repair person can access the printer, even if you forgot the original password. Rather than just "randomly" creating passwords from the factory.
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Good point. So maybe they have you reset to factory defaults and then they can better help because they can figure out the password. I had not thought of that angle to this.
 

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Does anyone know how hackers can get access to the printers? I'm thinking that they would need access to the local Wi-Fi or physical access to the printer.
 

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Winuser said:
Does anyone know how hackers can get access to the printers? I'm thinking that they would need access to the local Wi-Fi or physical access to the printer.
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If your neighbors are close enough that you can see their WiFi networks, it's always possible someone could do a Wi-Fi attack. I personally wouldn't enable WiFi on a printer, unless you needed to print from your tablet or smartphone.

Every time I'm outside of my house, it's funny to see how many networked printers show up on Wi-Fi.
 

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garlin said:
If your neighbors are close enough that you can see their WiFi networks, it's always possible someone could do a Wi-Fi attack. I personally wouldn't enable WiFi on a printer, unless you needed to print from your tablet or smartphone.

Every time I'm outside of my house, it's funny to see how many networked printers show up on Wi-Fi.
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I can on occasion see the Wi-Fi for my two neighbors although the signals are very weak. Neither one of them know how to do it and I doubt they would do it even if they could. A wannabe hacker would have to park in my driveway or in the street. I live on a country road with no shoulders for cars to park.
 

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If you read the original security advisory (most folks don't), it's basically a chained attack aimed at larger companies.

1. Send open HTTP request for printer info. Extract printer S/N.
2. Use S/N to determine the default admin password.
3. Logon using admin password, and run a series of successive exploits.
4. Take over the printer, and now the jackpot: If you have a large company which uses domain-based management and has added the printer to the domain, extract the domain account's password from the printer.

The attacker's aim isn't control of the printer, but to see if your company left domain passwords embedded in the printer. Those are valuable for hacking into your corporate domain. As a home user, you don't have this data to leak.
 

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garlin said:
The attacker's aim isn't control of the printer, but to see if your company left domain passwords embedded in the printer. Those are valuable for hacking into your corporate domain. As a home user, you don't have this data to leak.
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Wait... you're saying that the goal isn't to gain access so that you can send random pictures of scanned buttocks to the corporate printers and drive HR crazy trying to find the culprit?

Because, for the record, I fully support that sort of hacking.
 

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garlin said:
If your neighbors are close enough that you can see their WiFi networks, it's always possible someone could do a Wi-Fi attack. I personally wouldn't enable WiFi on a printer, unless you needed to print from your tablet or smartphone.

Every time I'm outside of my house, it's funny to see how many networked printers show up on Wi-Fi.
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It depends on how far you are from the printer, I prefer Wi-Fi only because I also have a high-end printer and I like to print from different computers as I am not going to be running a few hundred feet of ethernet cable, not to mention I don't even have a ethernet port on my computers. I only use HP PageWide printers. Besides, WiFi is not the issue since it is more if you have a private non-routable IP address or if you have a public routable IP address as for the former, they have to first have a connection on your LAN first which already means they are already on the inside on the network by the time that happens.
 
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retiredat44 said:
mine is not affected... Yay! at least one win with all the b.s. of daily life
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Either is mine, I feel the same. Get a pass for at least one thing a year is satisfying.
 

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The last thing I need is to come home to find some dirty hacker has wasted all my printer paper and toner. 😫
 

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    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam
Stigg said:
The last thing I need is to come home to find some dirty hacker has wasted all my printer paper and toner. 😫
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  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.9168Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.9168
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built 2013
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    ROG SupremeFX Formula 8-Channel High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Touch Screen Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list. OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / Mx Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    2000/500Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
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    TP-Link BE9300 WiFi 7 Bluetooth 5.4 (Archer TBE550E)
    TP-Link TX201 V1 2.5GB Lan

    Grandstream HT812 - VoIP
    ASUS DSL-AX82U - Mesh
    ASUS RT-AC68U - Mesh
    ASUS RT-BE88U Router

    Brother MFC-L2880DW Printer

    I’m on a horse.

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.9168 (Wifes)13th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-1340P Process...16GB LPDDR5-52001x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.9168 (Wifes)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7 14IRL8 - Type 82YL
    CPU
    13th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-1340P Processor(Core™ i5-1340P)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5-5200
    Graphics card(s)
    1x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512 GB SSD PCIe
    Mouse
    Logiteck MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    2000/500
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.


    Wireless Network: Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 AX; Bluetooth® 5.1 or above
    Ports: 1x 1 Novo button; 2 in 1 Audio Combo jack; Micro SD Card Reader; HDMI 1.4b; 2 x USB Type-C (TBT4)
    USB 3.2 Gen 2 DP 1.4a
    PD 3.0); 1 x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type A
    Camera
    1x 1080P FHD IR/RGB Hybrid with Privacy Shutter and Dual Array Microphone
    Graphics
    1x Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Monitor
    14" WUXGA
    Form Factor
    Convertible Notebook
  • Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.9168 (Wifes)

    Yoga 7 2-in-1 14IML9 - Type 83DJ

    Processor: Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 155H Processor(Core™ Ultra 7 155H)

    Memory: 32GB LPD5X-7467

    Hard Drive: 1 TB SSD PCIe

    Wireless Network: 1x Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 AX; Bluetooth® 5.1 or above

    Ports: 1 x HDMI 2.1 TMDS; 1 x Novo Button; 1 x Combo Audio Jack
    2 x USB-C (USB 4.0)
    1 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1

    Camera: 1080P FHD IR Hybrid with Dual Microphone

    Graphics: Intel® Arc™ Graphics

    Monitor: 14" 2.8K

    ...Where's my horse?
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