Hundreds of Brother printer models have an unpatchable security flaw


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mine is not affected... Yay! at least one win with all the b.s. of daily life
 

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Mine not affected either as it's only USB connected, not networked.
 

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I don't get it: How is a user not changing the default password a fault of Brother?

Yes, I get that the default password changes from device to device and the vulnerability is that a hacker can determine that default PW based upon the serial number, but honestly, are we going to blame Brother for a user fault?

This scheme sounds a lot better than some companies who make the default password on EVERY single device "admin".

Sometimes I think these web sites just want to publish sensational headlines for the clicks.
 

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I don't get it: How is a user not changing the default password a fault of Brother?

Yes, I get that the default password changes from device to device and the vulnerability is that a hacker can determine that default PW based upon the serial number, but honestly, are we going to blame Brother for a user fault?

This scheme sounds a lot better than some companies who make the default password on EVERY single device "admin".

Sometimes I think these web sites just want to publish sensational headlines for the clicks.
This sounds like Brother deliberately put in a backdoor so a tech support or field repair person can access the printer, even if you forgot the original password. Rather than just "randomly" creating passwords from the factory.
 

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This sounds like Brother deliberately put in a backdoor so a tech support or field repair person can access the printer, even if you forgot the original password. Rather than just "randomly" creating passwords from the factory.
Good point. So maybe they have you reset to factory defaults and then they can better help because they can figure out the password. I had not thought of that angle to this.
 

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Does anyone know how hackers can get access to the printers? I'm thinking that they would need access to the local Wi-Fi or physical access to the printer.
 

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Does anyone know how hackers can get access to the printers? I'm thinking that they would need access to the local Wi-Fi or physical access to the printer.
If your neighbors are close enough that you can see their WiFi networks, it's always possible someone could do a Wi-Fi attack. I personally wouldn't enable WiFi on a printer, unless you needed to print from your tablet or smartphone.

Every time I'm outside of my house, it's funny to see how many networked printers show up on Wi-Fi.
 

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If your neighbors are close enough that you can see their WiFi networks, it's always possible someone could do a Wi-Fi attack. I personally wouldn't enable WiFi on a printer, unless you needed to print from your tablet or smartphone.

Every time I'm outside of my house, it's funny to see how many networked printers show up on Wi-Fi.
I can on occasion see the Wi-Fi for my two neighbors although the signals are very weak. Neither one of them know how to do it and I doubt they would do it even if they could. A wannabe hacker would have to park in my driveway or in the street. I live on a country road with no shoulders for cars to park.
 

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If you read the original security advisory (most folks don't), it's basically a chained attack aimed at larger companies.

1. Send open HTTP request for printer info. Extract printer S/N.
2. Use S/N to determine the default admin password.
3. Logon using admin password, and run a series of successive exploits.
4. Take over the printer, and now the jackpot: If you have a large company which uses domain-based management and has added the printer to the domain, extract the domain account's password from the printer.

The attacker's aim isn't control of the printer, but to see if your company left domain passwords embedded in the printer. Those are valuable for hacking into your corporate domain. As a home user, you don't have this data to leak.
 

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The attacker's aim isn't control of the printer, but to see if your company left domain passwords embedded in the printer. Those are valuable for hacking into your corporate domain. As a home user, you don't have this data to leak.

Wait... you're saying that the goal isn't to gain access so that you can send random pictures of scanned buttocks to the corporate printers and drive HR crazy trying to find the culprit?

Because, for the record, I fully support that sort of hacking.
 

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If your neighbors are close enough that you can see their WiFi networks, it's always possible someone could do a Wi-Fi attack. I personally wouldn't enable WiFi on a printer, unless you needed to print from your tablet or smartphone.

Every time I'm outside of my house, it's funny to see how many networked printers show up on Wi-Fi.
It depends on how far you are from the printer, I prefer Wi-Fi only because I also have a high-end printer and I like to print from different computers as I am not going to be running a few hundred feet of ethernet cable, not to mention I don't even have a ethernet port on my computers. I only use HP PageWide printers. Besides, WiFi is not the issue since it is more if you have a private non-routable IP address or if you have a public routable IP address as for the former, they have to first have a connection on your LAN first which already means they are already on the inside on the network by the time that happens.
 
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mine is not affected... Yay! at least one win with all the b.s. of daily life

Either is mine, I feel the same. Get a pass for at least one thing a year is satisfying.
 

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The last thing I need is to come home to find some dirty hacker has wasted all my printer paper and toner. 😫
 

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The last thing I need is to come home to find some dirty hacker has wasted all my printer paper and toner. 😫

I laughed out loud 🤣
 

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