Introducing Windows 11

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If you’d like to see if your current PC meets the Windows 11 minimum requirements, download and run the PC Health Check app.

It’s free to upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11. But only Windows 10 PCs that are running the most current version of Windows 10 and meet the minimum hardware specifications will be able to upgrade. You can check to see if you have the latest updates for Windows 10 in Settings/Windows Update. The free upgrade offer does not have a specific end date for eligible systems. However, Microsoft reserves the right to eventually end support for the free offer. This end date will be no sooner than one year from general availability.

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At a time when the PC is playing a more central role in our lives, Windows 11 is designed to bring you closer to what you love.




Windows has always existed to be a stage for the world’s innovation. It’s been the backbone of global businesses and where scrappy startups became household names. The web was born and grew up on Windows. It’s the place where many of us wrote our first email, played our first PC game and wrote our first line of code. Windows is the place people go to create, to connect, to learn and to achieve – a platform over a billion people today rely on.

The responsibility of designing for that many people is one we don’t take lightly. The past 18 months brought an incredible shift in how we used our PCs; we went from fitting the PC into our lives to trying to fit our whole lives into the PC. Our devices weren’t just where we went for meetings, classes and to get things done, but where we came to play games with friends, binge watch our favorite shows and, perhaps most meaningfully, connect with one another. In the process we found ourselves recreating the office banter, the hallway chatter, workouts, happy hours and holiday celebrations – digitally.

What was so powerful was the shift in the PC we saw and felt – from something practical and functional to something personal and emotional. This is what inspired us as we were building the next generation of Windows. To build you a place that feels familiar, where you can create, learn, play and most importantly, connect in all new ways.

Today, I am humbled and excited to introduce you to Windows 11, the Windows that brings you closer to what you love.

Redesigned for productivity, creativity and ease

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We’ve simplified the design and user experience to empower your productivity and inspire your creativity. It’s modern, fresh, clean and beautiful. From the new Start button and taskbar to each sound, font and icon, everything was done intentionally to put you in control and bring a sense of calm and ease. We put Start at the center and made it easier to quickly find what you need. Start utilizes the power of the cloud and Microsoft 365 to show you your recent files no matter what platform or device you were viewing them on earlier, even if it was on an Android or iOS device.

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Windows has always been about helping you work how you want, by offering flexibility of multiple windows and the ability to snap apps side by side. New in Windows 11, we’re introducing Snap Layouts, Snap Groups and Desktops to provide an even more powerful way to multitask and stay on top of what you need to get done. These are new features designed to help you organize your windows and optimize your screen real estate so you can see what you need just the way you want in a layout that’s visually clean. You can also create separate Desktops for each part of your life and customize them to your liking – imagine having a Desktop for work, gaming or school.

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Windows 11 cuts through complexity and brings you simplicity.

A faster way to connect to the people you care about

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Another critical part of bringing you closer to what you love is bringing you closer to the people you love. The last 18 months drove new behavior for how we create meaningful connections with people digitally. Even as we start to return to more in-person interaction, we want to continue to make it easy for people to stay close with each other no matter where they are. And we don’t want the device or platform you’re on to be a barrier.

With Windows 11, we’re excited to introduce Chat from Microsoft Teams integrated in the taskbar. Now you can instantly connect through text, chat, voice or video with all of your personal contacts, anywhere, no matter the platform or device they’re on, across Windows, Android or iOS. If the person you’re connecting to on the other end hasn’t downloaded the Teams app, you can still connect with them via two-way SMS.

Windows 11 also gives you a more natural way to connect with friends and family through Teams, allowing you to instantly mute and unmute, or start presenting directly from the taskbar.

Delivering the best PC gaming experiences yet

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If you’re a gamer, Windows 11 is made for you. Gaming has always been fundamental to what Windows is all about. Today, hundreds of millions of people around the world game on Windows and find joy and connection with loved ones and friends through play. Windows 11 unlocks the full potential of your system’s hardware, putting some of the latest gaming technology to work for you. Like: DirectX 12 Ultimate, which can enable breathtaking, immersive graphics at high frame rates; DirectStorage for faster load times and more detailed game worlds; and Auto HDR for a wider, more vivid range of colors for a truly captivating visual experience. Nothing has changed in our commitment to hardware compatibility – Windows 11 supports your favorite PC gaming accessories and peripherals. With Xbox Game Pass for PC or Ultimate, gamers get access to over 100 high-quality PC games with new games added all the time, and it’s still just as easy to find people to play with, no matter if they’re playing on a PC or console.

To learn more about what Windows 11 means for gamers, check out Xbox Wire.

A faster way to get the information you care about

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Windows 11 brings you closer to the news and information you care about faster with Widgets – a new personalized feed powered by AI and best-in-class browser performance from Microsoft Edge. Even when we’re at our most focused and creative we still need breaks – a moment to check in with the outside world or give ourselves a mental reset. Today, we often pick up our phones to check the news, weather or notifications. Now, you can open a similarly curated view directly from your desktop. When you open your personalized feed it slides across your screen like a sheet of glass so it doesn’t disrupt what you’re doing. For creators and publishers, Widgets also opens new real estate within Windows to deliver personalized content. Our aspiration is to create a vibrant pipeline for global brands and local creators alike, in a way that both consumers and creators can benefit.

An all-new Microsoft Store where your favorite apps and entertainment come together

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The new Microsoft Store is your single trusted location for apps and content to watch, create, play, work and learn. It’s been rebuilt for speed and with an all-new design that is beautiful and simple to use. Not only will we bring you more apps than ever before, we’re also making all content – apps, games, shows, movies – easier to search for and discover with curated stories and collections. We’re excited to soon be welcoming leading first and third-party apps like Microsoft Teams, Visual Studio, Disney+, Adobe Creative Cloud, Zoom and Canva to the Microsoft Store – all offering incredible experiences to entertain, inspire and connect you. When you download an app from the Store you have the peace of mind of knowing it’s been tested for security and family safety.

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We’re also pumped to announce that we are bringing Android apps to Windows for the first time. Starting later this year, people will be able to discover Android apps in the Microsoft Store and download them through the Amazon Appstore – imagine recording and posting a video from TikTok or using Khan Academy Kids for virtual learning right from your PC. We’ll have more to share about this experience in the coming months. We look forward to this partnership with Amazon and Intel using their Intel Bridge technology.


Creating a more open ecosystem unlocking new opportunity for developers and creators

We are taking steps to further open the Microsoft Store to unlock greater economic opportunity for creators and developers. We’re enabling developers and independent software vendors (ISVs) to bring their apps regardless of whether they’re built as a Win32, Progressive Web App (PWA), or Universal Windows App (UWP) or any other app framework, creating an opportunity to reach and engage with more people. We’re also announcing a progressive change to our revenue share policies where app developers can now bring their own commerce into our Store and keep 100% of the revenue – Microsoft takes nothing. App developers can still use our commerce with competitive revenue share of 85/15. We believe creating a more open ecosystem ultimately benefits our customers – giving them secure, frictionless access to the apps, games, movies, shows and web content they want and need.

To learn more about the changes to the Microsoft Store, visit this Windows Blog post.

If you want to learn more about what Windows 11 means for developers, visit the Windows Developer Blog.

Faster, more secure and familiar for IT

For IT, Windows 11 is built on the consistent, compatible and familiar Windows 10 foundation you know. You’ll plan for, prepare and deploy Windows 11 just as you do today with Windows 10. Upgrading to Windows 11 will be like taking a Windows 10 update. The familiar management experiences you have in place today – like Microsoft Endpoint Manager, cloud configuration, Windows Update for Business and Autopilot – will support your environment of tomorrow as you integrate Windows 11 into your estate.

Just as with Windows 10, we are deeply committed to app compatibility, which is a core design tenet of Windows 11. We stand behind our promise that your applications will work on Windows 11 with App Assure, a service that helps customers with 150 or more users fix any app issues they might run into at no additional cost.

Windows 11 is also secure by design, with new built-in security technologies that will add protection from the chip to the cloud, while enabling productivity and new experiences. Windows 11 provides a Zero Trust-ready operating system to protect data and access across devices. We have worked closely with our OEM and silicon partners to raise security baselines to meet the needs of the evolving threat landscape and the new hybrid work world.

You can learn more about Windows 11 as the operating system for hybrid work and learning in the Microsoft 365 blog.

It’s a great time to buy a PC

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Since day one of developing Windows 11, we have been working closely with our hardware and silicon partners for seamless integration across software and hardware. That co-engineering begins with innovation in the silicon. From AMD and the incredible graphics depth brought by the Ryzen processors to the incredible performance of Intel’s 11th gen and Evo Processors, to Qualcomm’s AI prowess, 5G and Arm support, the innovation of our silicon partners brings together the best of Windows 11 with the largest hardware ecosystem in the world.

And with Dell, HP, Lenovo, Samsung, Surface and others, we’ve worked to ensure most PCs* you can buy today will be ready for Windows 11 – across a variety of form factors and price points.

Together, we’ve tuned Windows 11 to not only be optimized for speed and efficiency, but to take advantage of improved experiences with touch, inking and voice.

When you use Windows 11 on a tablet without a keyboard, we’ve improved the experience for touch, creating more space between the icons in the taskbar, adding bigger touch targets and subtle visual cues to make resizing and moving windows easier, as well as adding gestures. We’re also enabling haptics to make using your pen even more engaging and immersive – allowing you to hear and feel the vibrations as you click through and edit or sketch. Lastly, we’ve brought forward enhancements in voice typing. Windows 11 is incredible at recognizing what you say; it can automatically punctuate for you, and comes with voice commands. This is a fantastic feature for when you want to take a break from typing and speak your ideas instead.

Windows 11 will be available through a free upgrade for eligible Windows 10 PCs and on new PCs beginning this holiday. To check if your current Windows 10 PC is eligible for the free upgrade to Windows 11, visit Windows.com to download the PC Health Check app. We’re also working with our retail partners to make sure Windows 10 PCs you buy today are ready for the upgrade to Windows 11. The free upgrade will begin to roll out to eligible Windows 10 PCs this holiday and continuing into 2022. And next week, we’ll begin to share an early build of Windows 11 to the Windows Insider Program – this is a passionate community of Windows fans whose feedback is important to us.

This is just the beginning

Windows is more than just an operating system; it’s a fabric woven into our lives and in our work. It’s where we connect with people, it’s where we learn, work and play. Over time it’s remained familiar and adapted to us. We hope you’re as pumped as we are for Windows 11.

We can’t wait to see what Windows 11 empowers people to do and inspires them to create.

*Look for PCs that indicate they are eligible for the free upgrade, or you can check with your retailer for more information.


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I went looking on MSI's site, but all I could find are where they sell actual TPM modules.

For my motherboard, neither the specifications nor the Datasheet show anything about TPM or trust (via search). The manual for my mobo, the MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE, makes reference to a JTPM1: TPM Module Connector, which means that I can get the second one, the LPC-based one (which is also specified in the manual - not SPI type).

Further in the manual, it shows that my mobo can do both fTPM and discrete (hardware) TPM.

I suspect that some OEMs are going to be more forthcoming with the answer than others (like MSI apparently).
Not sure what info you were looking for but this post in the MSI forum covers some of it.


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Well, MSI finally made a post like the other manufacturers have done wrt TPM (without actually saying that these are Win11 ready boards):

https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/oc0f0l

This is NOT a Windows 11 compatible motherboard list, it simply means the motherboard BIOS supports TPM 2.0.

They also have linked in that post a PDF posted to a OneDrive account with a list of motherboards with TPM 2.0 support: OneDrive

As for what I was looking for - an official announcement from someone at MSI just like other OEMs have done.

This is a partial list, as it addresses TPM 2.0. But still no official word on Win11 support (which makes sense as they have to differentiate motherbiards which support CPUs that Win11 doesn't officially support from motherbaords whos CPU compatibility list is fully Win11 compliant)....
 

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I'll be damned if I'm going to replace my perfectly good Intel 4th Gen system just so I can run Windows 11 which so far has absolutely nothing I want.

MS needs to get their head out of their butt and remove the requirements that prevent systems even as old as mine from running Windows 11. I can see finally removing support for 32 bit systems, I think that's overdue, but almost any 64 bit dual core CPU should be supported. I'm sure the system manufacturers love it since they hope it will drive the purchase of new systems.

I'll stick with Windows 10, at least until 2025 when support for it is dropped and maybe even beyond then, depending on how my system continues to run.

I don't think I'm alone in this.
 

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I'll be damned if I'm going to replace my perfectly good Intel 4th Gen system just so I can run Windows 11 which so far has absolutely nothing I want.

MS needs to get their head out of their butt and remove the requirements that prevent systems even as old as mine from running Windows 11. I can see finally removing support for 32 bit systems, I think that's overdue, but almost any 64 bit dual core CPU should be supported. I'm sure the system manufacturers love it since they hope it will drive the purchase of new systems.

I'll stick with Windows 10, at least until 2025 when support for it is dropped and maybe even beyond then, depending on how my system continues to run.

I don't think I'm alone in this.

The requirements for a "highly secure" PC were released in 2017. Highly secure PC MS didn't choose to demand it of all Windows users at the time.

Whether they'll be willing to piddle off thousands (millions?) of users in the name of security with the final release of Win 11, I can't guess. Maybe they'll release a do-you-feel-lucky version, with a lengthy release form that must be signed and returned to Microsoft.:)

Edit: piddle off? Egad, a Bowdlerizing forum robot!
 

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It will be well into the millions and I like piddle off! It's a great expression that we should use here in the US.
 

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IMO any gaming PC that was built between 2017 and 2019 with similar or better components than mine should easily upgrade to W11. TBH, 2017 was a great year for (future proofing) a computer. DDR4 RAM, Power Supplies 500 Watts or higher and GTX video cards can be carried forward to a new Z500 series Motherboard.

If your benchmarks are close to mine there is (IMHO) no reason to build or buy a new computer unless your current PC is FUBAR.

Though I won't be building a new computer for a few more years, I will be upgrading my video card when the market settle's down to (normal) MSRP pricing in a couple of years. My userbenchmarks.com are great for gaming, video production and everyday work.

I look forward to the upgrade to W11 but will have a cloned SSD with W10 on it (just in case W11 is glitched filled).

 
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RTM, for sure. I, for one, still doubt that will be a release to general public (general availability) timeline, though.
 

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    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
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    Dell laptop display 15"
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I'll be damned if I'm going to replace my perfectly good Intel 4th Gen system just so I can run Windows 11 which so far has absolutely nothing I want.

MS needs to get their head out of their butt and remove the requirements that prevent systems even as old as mine from running Windows 11. I can see finally removing support for 32 bit systems, I think that's overdue, but almost any 64 bit dual core CPU should be supported. I'm sure the system manufacturers love it since they hope it will drive the purchase of new systems.

I'll stick with Windows 10, at least until 2025 when support for it is dropped and maybe even beyond then, depending on how my system continues to run.

I don't think I'm alone in this.
You're not alone in this, and there's no reason to repeat it over and over.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro build 22000.65
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    PC/Desktop
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    HP Pavilion PC 570-p026
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 7400 @ 3 GHz
    Motherboard
    HP Model 82F2 (U3E1)
    Memory
    12 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 630
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    Acer V173
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    500MB Samsung Evo+ SSD
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There are several mentions of ways to get win 11 installed (link above) when TPM 2.0 issues arise. Has anyone successfully applied any of these fixes to get you there?
"Warning: use suggested changes to you OS and or registry at your own risk!"
 

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There are several mentions of ways to get win 11 installed (link above) when TPM 2.0 issues arise. Has anyone successfully applied any of these fixes to get you there?
"Warning: use suggested changes to you OS and or registry at your own risk!"
Indeed! Have applied them to each preview release with no ill effects whatsover. It allows UUDP created ISO's of the builds to install without issue.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
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    Homemade
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 8-Core
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (WiFi 6)
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz
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    Onboard ATI Radeon
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    Onboard
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    Asus 28"
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    4K - 3840 X 2160
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    Western Digital 500GB NVME
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Has anyone successfully applied any of these fixes to get you there?
Have a look at the (well below par) specs of my System Two in the 'My Computers' link below this post. ;)
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB HDD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.


    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

lopedaddy

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Indeed! Have applied them to each preview release with no ill effects whatsover.
I have modded the registry for TPM override however, not sure if I would have success with an i7 4790k as it is not on any list for win11 upgrade. Win 10 is solid here. I will wait longer and glad to hear your stuff works with 11. My mobo is configured for TPM 2.0 on separate header, function is in BIOS on/off plus secure boot. MS, you got a long way to go.
 
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Why I need TPM 2.0 while I don't use Windows Hello or Bitlocker?
Or even the Windows 11 drivers? Windows 11 works perfectly fine on Windows 10 drivers..
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 10, Windows 10 Ghost Spectre, Windows 11 (multi-boot)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 270s
    CPU
    Core i3 2100 3.2Ghz
    Memory
    4gb DDR3-1333
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Compaq LA2006x
    Screen Resolution
    900p
    Internet Speed
    10MBit/s
    Browser
    Chrome, FFox and my homemade browser IE11-based
    Antivirus
    WD
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    Second-hand PC,
    No TPM, having WDDM 1.2, unsupported CPU.
    Installed Windows 11 using the registry hack..
    Clean installed even Windows 10

CountMike

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Why I need TPM 2.0 while I don't use Windows Hello or Bitlocker?
Or even the Windows 11 drivers? Windows 11 works perfectly fine on Windows 10 drivers..
Because MS said so :eek:
 

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  • Operating System
    W10 and Insider Dev.+ Linux Mint
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home brewed
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    2x8GB Kingston 3600MHz, Cl 16
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus ROG Rx 570 OC, 4GB
    Sound Card
    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Samsung 960 evo250GB, 3x SSD SATA 2.5" 250GB, WD 2TB HDD.
    Cooling
    Arctic Freezer II 240mm

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Why I need TPM 2.0 while I don't use Windows Hello or Bitlocker?
Because password security, and protection against bootkit & rootkit malware ;)
 

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    Win10 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ۞ΞЖ†ԘΜΞ۞
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    Intel Core i9 9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD
    E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
    D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD
    G: System Images -> Samsung 860 Pro 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 2x120 Phantek& Halo front, and 1x140 Phanteks
    Keyboard
    Trust GTX THURA
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
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    Edge; Chrome;
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    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as an added layer between browser & OS
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    Router: FRITZ!Box 7490
    Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar
    Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR

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Why I need TPM 2.0 while I don't use Windows Hello or Bitlocker?
Or even the Windows 11 drivers? Windows 11 works perfectly fine on Windows 10 drivers..

On my laptop, under Windows 10, with PTT enabled (factory default), the Windows 10 PIN is stored in the firmware TPM.

Supposedly, that is more secure than just having it (presumably encrypted) somewhere in C:.

Not the sort of thing that excites me, but it's a datum.
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 11 22000.194
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
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    Ryzen 9 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus Tuf X570 Plus Gaming
    Memory
    32GB Gskill DDR4 2800
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon RX 6900 XT
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus PA329C
    Screen Resolution
    3940 X 2160
    Hard Drives
    WB Black SN850 1TB M.2 NVME SSD
    Seagate Iron Wolf 8TB
    PSU
    Seasonic SS-1250XM
    Case
    Corsair Obsidian 750D
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i RGB Pro XT
    Internet Speed
    1200 Mbps
  • Operating System
    windows 10 19044.1151
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 3900X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 2080 Super
    Sound Card
    built in Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung LU28R550UQNXZA
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160
    Hard Drives
    Sabrent 1 TB PCI-E 4.0 X4 NVME M.2
    4 GB Seagate Ironwolf
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G1+
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    Phanteks ENTHOO Pro M
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    Corsair H100i RGB Pro XT
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On my laptop, under Windows 10, with PTT enabled (factory default), the Windows 10 PIN is stored in the firmware TPM.

Supposedly, that is more secure than just having it (presumably encrypted) somewhere in C:.

Not the sort of thing that excites me, but it's a datum.
On my Acer laptop I was haven trouble signing in with my pin number. Sometimes it would work and other times I would have use my password. One day I was in the Bios to change a setting. While in there I found a option to reset something in Security. I don't remember what it was called but I clicked the option to reset it. When I logged back into Windows I only had the option to use my password. When Windows booted I went to my account settings and setup my pin number. My pin has worked ever since.
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
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    HP USB Kekboard
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    2.4 wireless mouse
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    Microsoft Edge and Firefox

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On my laptop, under Windows 10, with PTT enabled (factory default), the Windows 10 PIN is stored in the firmware TPM.

Supposedly, that is more secure than just having it (presumably encrypted) somewhere in C:.

Not the sort of thing that excites me, but it's a datum.

Yup. Until they find a way to hack it, of course. But in the interim, it's what we've got.

On my Acer laptop I was haven trouble signing in with my pin number. Sometimes it would work and other times I would have use my password. One day I was in the Bios to change a setting. While in there I found a option to reset something in Security. I don't remember what it was called but I clicked the option to reset it. When I logged back into Windows I only had the option to use my password. When Windows booted I went to my account settings and setup my pin number. My pin has worked ever since.

That makes sense, if it was attempting to harbor more than one key from multiple installations / upgrades, or something in Windows just got degraded after an update.

I've noticed that whenever fTPM is not available, my PIN no longer works and I need to make a new one, but after making a new PIN and then going back to enable fTPM, I have to make one again. And having multiple accounts on the machine also makes me have to re-authenticate each account. But that's it.

This, however, as you mentioned, is good advice, and one I've not actually seen around a lot for PIN issues with Windows 8+. It may make for a good tutorial.
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * Corsair Vengeance 32 GB 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
    Screen Resolution
    2* 1920*1080
    Hard Drives
    3x Sabrent Rocket PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 1 TB SSD (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB)
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM --> RAID1
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 x64 Pro build 21H1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
    Browser
    Edge Chromium | Chrome | Firefox Nightly | Brave
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB4
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