Insider KB5009380 CU Windows 11 Insider Preview Dev Build 22518.1012 - Dec. 10


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UPDATE 12/15:

UPDATE 12/10: We are starting to roll out Cumulative Update Build 22518.1012 (KB5009380). This update does not include anything new and is designed to test our servicing pipeline for builds in the Dev Channel.



Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22518 to the Dev Channel.

TL;DR

  • This build will not be offered to ARM64 PCs due to an issue that causes these devices to rollback when attempting to update to this build. We’re working on a fix.
  • This build has several new features for Windows Insiders to try out including Spotlight collection backgrounds, an updated entry point for Widgets with weather, and voice access.
  • We’re making it easier to install WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) from the Microsoft Store.
  • This build includes some general changes including updates to the input switcher.
  • We also have a good set of fixes but a few new known issues – please read these sections below!
  • Yesterday, we released the redesigned Notepad to Windows Insiders in the Dev Channel. See this blog post for all the details.

What’s new in Build 22518

View the world on your desktop with Spotlight collection

Keep your desktop fresh and inspiring with Spotlight collection. You will get beautiful new desktop pictures from around the world every day and fun facts about each picture. Here is how you can try out Spotlight collection:
  1. Right-click on your desktop and choose “Personalize”.
  2. On the Personalization settings page, choose “Background”.
  3. Under the “Personalize your background” dropdown, select “Spotlight collection”.
Upon enabling Spotlight collection, you will see an inspiring picture from Whitehaven Beach in Australia on your desktop as well as the Spotlight icon.


Right-click on the Spotlight icon on your desktop to switch to between Spotlight pictures or tell us whether you like or dislike a picture.
Right-click on the Spotlight icon on your desktop to switch to between Spotlight pictures or tell us whether you like or dislike a picture.

Later in the day, we will replace Whitehaven Beach with a collection of up to five background pictures from around the world. This could take up to 24 hours. If you hover over the Spotlight icon, you can learn more about each picture. Right-clicking on the Spotlight icon on the desktop opens a context menu where you can switch to a different background picture as well as tell us whether you like or don’t like one of the pictures. Double-clicking on the Spotlight icon launches the landing page where you can learn even more about any of the Spotlight collection pictures you saw throughout the day.

Please note the Spotlight collection experience is not yet localized and will show text in English only. Full localization will come in a future update. Spotlight collection is available to Windows Insiders in the following countries: Australia, Canada, China, Finland, France, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Korea, Norway, Spain, Sweden, U.K., U.S. More countries will be added over time.

Updated entry point for Widgets on your taskbar

We are trying out showing the Widgets entry point on the left side of your taskbar with live weather content. You can also open the Widgets board by simply hovering over the entry point.

We’re trying out showing the Widgets entry point, with weather, on the left side of the taskbar.

We’re trying out showing the Widgets entry point, with weather, on the left side of the taskbar.

For users who choose to align their taskbar, the Widgets entry point will be to the right of the Task view icon.


How the Widgets icon looks on a left-aligned taskbar with weather.
How the Widgets icon looks on a left-aligned taskbar with weather.

Group policies and the ability to show/hide the Widgets button from the taskbar remains unchanged.


We’re trying this out so let us know what you think and check out the known issues below for some issues we’re aware of for this experience.

[We are beginning to roll this change out, so it isn’t available to all Insiders just yet as we plan to monitor feedback and see how it lands before pushing it out to everyone.]

Introducing Voice Access

Voice access is a new experience that enables everyone, including people with mobility disabilities, to control their PC and author text using their voice. For example, voice access supports scenarios like opening and switching between apps, browsing the web, and reading and authoring mail. Voice access leverages modern, on-device speech recognition to accurately recognize speech and is supported without an internet connection. Voice access supports English-U.S. language only, so the Windows display language should be set to English-U.S., otherwise voice access may not work as expected.


Get started

You can enable voice access under Settings ><figcaption id=
You can enable voice access under Settings > Accessibility > Speech.

You can find voice access in Settings > Accessibility > Speech. When you turn on voice access for the first time, it will prompt you to download a speech model for the on-device speech recognition. Once it is downloaded, you can choose a microphone you want to use with voice access and start using your voice to control your PC.

You can choose to auto start voice access the next time you sign-in to your PC in settings. You can also use voice commands or keyboard shortcuts (Alt + Shift + C and Alt + Shift + B) to control whether voice access is listening or not listening.


To do thisSay this
Get voice access to start listening to you “Voice access wake up”, “Unmute”
Put voice access to sleep
(It’ll only respond to “voice access wake up” command)
“Voice access sleep”, “Mute”
Completely stop voice access from listening to you
(You can use mouse or keyboard to click on the microphone button to change its state)
“Turn off microphone”

The voice access interactive guide.
The voice access interactive guide.

Voice access includes an interactive guide that explains how to complete common tasks using your voice.

In addition to the interactive guide, you can access a complete list of commands by asking “what can I say?” when voice access is listening. You can also access the complete set of voice access commands here.

Voice access in the listening state.
Voice access in the listening state.

Voice access gives real-time feedback of what voice access heard so that you know which word was not recognized correctly.

Navigate Windows with your voice

You can navigate and interact with Windows, including opening and switching applications using your voice. You can also emulate your standard inputs like keyboard and mouse via voice.

For example, the following table includes how to complete common tasks:

To do thisSay this
Open a new application“Open ,” e.g., “Open Edge,” “Open Word”
Switch to an active application“Switch to ,” e.g., “Switch to Edge”
Manage your Windows “Minimize window,” “Maximize window,” “Close window”
Click an item, like a button or a link“Click ,” e.g., “Click Start,” “Click Cancel”
Right click an item“Rick click ,” e.g. “Right click Start”
Double clicks an item “Double click ,” e.g., “Double click Recycle Bin”
Scroll in a specific direction “Scroll down” or “Start scrolling down
Press a key or key combination “Press Escape,” “Press and Hold Shift,” “Press tab 3 times”

Voice access number overlays.
Numbered tear drops appearing over all interactive items on Mail app, voice access UI and taskbar.

Voice access number overlays make it possible to interact with items which don’t have a name and they also put you in control when there are more than one matching items to a command.

To do thisSay this
Show number overlays“Show numbers” or “Show numbers here”
Click a numbered item“Click ”, e.g., “Click 1”, “Double click 1”, “Right click 1”
Hide number overlays“Hide Numbers,” “Cancel”

3x3 grid with numbers drawn over the Mail app.
3×3 grid with numbers drawn over the Mail app.

In addition, to interact with inaccessible UI and achieve precise mouse movement with grid overlay:

To do thisSay this
Show the grid “Show grid” or “Show grid here”
Drill down into the grid“,” e.g., “1”
Click an item at the centre of a grid“Click ,” e.g., “Click 1”
Mark an object to drag “Mark ,” e.g., “Mark 1”
Drop the marked object into a location “Drag”

Author text with your voice

In addition to navigating Windows, you can dictate and edit text with voice access:

To do thisSay this
Insert text in a text box“”, e.g., “hello world”
Select the last text you dictated“Select that”
Select specific text in a text box “Select ”, e.g., “select hello world”
Select previous or next character(s) or word(s) or line(s) or paragraph(s)“Select next word”, “select previous two lines”
Delete the selected text or last dictated text“Delete that”
Delete specific text in a text box“Delete ”, e.g., “delete hello world”
Capitalize the first letter of a word “Capitalize ”, e.g., “capitalize hello”
Capitalize all the letters of a word “Uppercase ”, e.g., “uppercase hello”
Change all the letters in a word to lowercase “Lowercase ”, e.g., lowercase hello”
Place cursor before/after specific text “Move before ”, e.g., “Move before hello world”
Move cursor to beginning/end of a word or a line or a paragraph “Go to beginning of line”, “go to end of paragraph”

Tips for best recognition quality:
  • Try to speak as clearly as you can
  • Work in an environment with minimal ambient background noise if possible
  • To prevent system audio (e.g., media playback or people speaking on a call) from being picked up by voice access, it is recommended to use headphones/earbuds or mute your system audio when voice access is actively listening
Be sure to check the known issues section below for known issues with voice access. We look forward to you trying out voice access and would love to hear your feedback and suggestions in Feedback Hub (Win + F) under Accessibility > Voice access. You can find the link to the Feedback Hub on the voice access help menu as well – use the voice command “Open Voice access help” > “Click Give feedback” to get there.

Install the Windows Subsystem from Linux (WSL) from the Microsoft Store

WSL is now available in the Microsoft Store. This is the same WSL you know and love but just a different delivery mechanism. Installing WSL from the Store will make it easier to get the latest WSL updates in the future. You can learn more about the Store preview at this blog post or by watching this video.

Starting in this preview build, we’ve made it easier for new users to get started with the WSL in the Microsoft Store by changing the `wsl.exe –install` command to install WSL from the Microsoft Store by default. Additionally, we’ve added some additional arguments to `wsl.exe –install` to make it easier to configure your install, such as `wsl –install –no-launch` which will install a new WSL distro without immediately launching it. To see a full list of available commands please run `wsl –help`. If you want to get started with the Store version right away and already have WSL installed just run `wsl –update` to update immediately to the Store version!


Changes and Improvements

  • Starting with today’s build we’re rolling out an underlying platform change to improve the overall performance and reliability of the input switcher for Insiders using multiple keyboard languages and layouts. In addition to this, we’re updating the input switcher to now have an acrylic background. If you have any feedback for the input switcher, please file it in the Feedback Hub under Input and Language > Keyboard and language switching. [We are beginning to roll this change out, so it isn’t available to all Insiders just yet as we plan to monitor feedback and see how it lands before pushing it out to everyone.]
Input switcher UI with acrylic background.
Input switcher UI with acrylic background.
  • Updated the context menu in File Explorer to make these options top level based on feedback:
    • “Install” when right clicking on font files and .inf files.
    • “Install certificate” when right clicking on .cer files.
    • “Map network drive” and “Disconnect network drive” when right clicking on This PC.
    • “Disconnect” when right clicking on network drives.
  • The ability for personalized combinations of emoji based on face and skin tones of family members, couples with heart, kissing, and people holding hands which we began rolling out with Build 22504 is now available to all Insiders in the Dev Channel.
  • Starting with Build 22509, we began rolling out a change to display your clock and date will now also be displayed on the taskbars of the secondary monitor or monitors. This is now available to all Insiders in the Dev Channel.

  • We’ve added a new extra-large candidate height option for Simplified Chinese IME users under Personalization > Text Input in Settings.

Fixes

[Taskbar]
  • Fixed an explorer.exe crash related to having websites pinned to the Taskbar.
[Search]
  • Did some work to help address an issue where an invisible window frame for the recent searches flyout could end up stuck on the screen, consuming input in that area.
  • When you’re hovering over items in the recent searches flyout, truncated text in the flyout (for example, when using the accessibility setting to make text larger) will now have a tooltip so you can see the full text.
  • Improved visibility of the text in the recent searches flyout if a contrast mode was enabled.
  • The recent searches flyout now has an accessible name when a screen reader sets focus to it, instead of just saying button.
  • Fixed an issue which was causing the search icon in the recent searches icon to become a garbage character for people using the Chinese display language.
  • Fixed a high hitting Search crash.
  • Did some work to help reduce the likelihood of keystrokes getting dropped if you start your search by pressing the Windows key and start typing.
  • If you use Search to run commands, the “Run as administrator” and “Open file location” options should be visible again for you to select on the side of the search window. In addition, CTRL + Shift + Enter should work again now for commands.
[File Explorer]
  • Mitigated an issue that could lead to not being able to add network drives as a source in Media Player.
  • Fixed an issue that could lead to seeing an unexpected blank icon after compressing a file, instead of the one corresponding to your default app for handling that file type.
  • Right clicking on a folder and then quickly closing and reopening the File Explorer window should no longer lead to an explorer.exe crash when the “run as a separate process” option is enabled.
  • Removed some unexpected characters in the dialog when moving user account folders to another location.
  • If you right click on files like .htm in File Explorer, the icon next to Microsoft Edge Canary, Beta or Dev should now display correctly (if installed) under Open With, instead of showing a generic icon.
  • Addressed an issue that could lead to icons for app entries (like Windows Terminal) in the context menu going missing / being invisible sometimes.
  • Improved the consistency of the background color of the command bar and menu dropdowns when a contrast mode was enabled.
  • Made some more little improvements to help with File Explorer folder navigation performance.
[Input]
  • If you’ve pressed WIN + Period and have navigated to the emoji or gifs section with a search term, when you go back to the main page, we will now clear out the search query so you can start fresh.
  • The IME candidate window should now appear more reliably when typing into Search immediately after booting your PC.
  • Fixed an issue where u-mode/v-mode/name-mode wasn’t not showing candidates when typing with the Simplified Chinese IME.
  • Fixed an issue where the Japanese IME was unexpectedly displaying candidates in horizontal mode instead of vertical mode.
  • Fixed an issue where the IME toolbar might randomly show on the lock screen.
  • Addressed an issue where the keyboard focus wouldn’t always be in the right place after pressing WIN + Period, depending on where you’d left focus the last time the window was used.
  • When personalizing your family emoji in the emoji panel, the UI should no longer unexpectedly dismiss when you click the white space.
  • Clicking on your personalized family emoji in the most recently used list in the emoji panel should no longer unexpectedly invoke the customization UI.
  • If you try to start voice typing (WIN + H) without setting focus to a text box first, the popup suggesting you move focus should work again now.
[Windowing]
  • Fixed issue where snap group thumbnails weren’t updating in real time in Task View after you moved a group window to a different Desktop.
[Settings]
  • Fixed an issue that was causing Settings to crash when going to open options for added languages for some Insiders.
  • Fixed a few issues on the Text Input page under Personalization, including:
    • The preview image for your current set up should be showing now.
    • Added a few keywords to help search for this page.
    • Improved read out of the page for screen reader users.
  • Searching for the word widgets should return to the corresponding Settings page with that toggle now.
[Other]
  • Mitigated an issue believed to be causing Insiders with certain devices to be experiencing bug checks with the error SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION in recent flights.
  • Fixed an issue where users updating from Builds 22000.xxx, or earlier, to newer Dev Channel builds using the latest Dev Channel ISO would receive the following warning message: The build you are trying to install is Flight Signed. To continue installing, enable flight signing.
  • Removed some excess padding on the left of the boot logo, which was causing it to look off-center compared to the progress wheel.
  • Addressed an issue where UAC was unexpectedly showing “Unknown program” when trying to elevate certain programs, despite them having proper names.
  • Fixed an issue leading to Narrator unexpectedly saying “No item in view” sometimes when tabbing to win32 text boxes.
  • Fixed a crash that was leading to login issues in OOBE (if you were to reset your PC), and well as issues resetting your PIN from the lock screen in the last 2 flights.
  • Fixed an issue leading to acrylic unexpectedly not working in certain places in the preview flight.
  • Mitigated an issue leading to some people unexpectedly seeing “Something went wrong” when trying to click the “stop recording” button when recording a message in Voice Recorder.
NOTE: Some fixes noted here in Insider Preview builds from the active development branch may make their way into the servicing updates for the released version of Windows 11 that became generally available on October 5th.

Known issues

[General]
  • We’re investigating reports from Insiders that DWM is crashing (causing the screen to flash repeatedly) when trying to use certain apps.
  • [ADDED 12/9] You may be unable to sign-in to certain apps such as Feedback Hub. Restarting your PC should correct the issue.
[Start]
  • In some cases, you might be unable to enter text when using Search from Start or the taskbar. If you experience the issue, press WIN + R on the keyboard to launch the Run dialog box, then close it.
[Taskbar]
  • The taskbar will sometimes flicker when switching input methods.
  • The network icon sometimes goes missing in the taskbar when it’s supposed to be there. If you encounter this, please try using Task Manager to restart explorer.exe.
  • If you have multiple monitors connected to your PC and right-click on the date and time on the taskbar on your primary monitor, it will crash explorer.exe
[Search]
  • After clicking the Search icon on the Taskbar, the Search panel may not open. If this occurs, restart the “Windows Explorer” process, and open the search panel again.
[Settings]
  • When viewing the list of available Wi-Fi networks, the signal strength indicators do not reflect the correct signal strength.
[Widgets]
  • Changing the taskbar alignment can cause the Widgets button to disappear from taskbar.
  • Widgets board may not have the correct resolution when hovering the entry point on a secondary monitor.
  • The Widgets board may be temporarily blank.
  • Links may not open properly when opening the widgets board using hover.
  • When having multiple monitors, Widgets content on taskbar may get out of sync between monitors.
[Voice access]
  • Voice access is not yet fully compatible with screen readers like Narrator, and you may experience gaps or unexpected behavior running these together.
  • Some text authoring commands, e.g., “select that” or “delete that”, may not work as expected across Windows applications.
  • You cannot use the command “press Windows L” to lock your PC via voice.
  • Recognition of some punctuation marks and symbols such as @ sign is not accurate.

For developers

You can download the latest Windows Insider SDK at aka.ms/windowsinsidersdk.

SDK NuGet packages are now also flighting at NuGet Gallery | WindowsSDK which include:
These NuGet packages provide more granular access to the SDK and better integrate in CI/CD pipelines.

About the Dev Channel

We have moved the Dev Channel back to receiving builds from our active development branch (RS_PRERELEASE). These builds are from the earliest stage in a new development cycle with the latest work-in-progress code from our engineers. These aren’t always stable builds, and sometimes you will see issues that block key activities or require workarounds while flighting in the Dev Channel. It is important to make sure you read the known issues listed in our blog posts as we document many of these issues with each flight.

These builds are also not matched to a specific release. New features and OS improvements from these builds could show up in future Windows releases when they’re ready, and we may deliver them as full OS updates or servicing releases.

Build numbers are higher in the Dev Channel than the Windows 11 preview builds in the Beta and Release Preview Channels. You will not be able to switch from the Dev Channel to the Beta or Release Preview Channels without doing a clean install back to the released version of Windows 11 currently.

Are you not seeing any of the features listed for this build? Check your Windows Insider Settings to make sure you’re in the Dev Channel. Submit feedback here to let us know if things weren’t working the way you expected.

The desktop watermark you see at the lower right corner of your desktop is normal for these pre-release builds.

Important Insider Links

Thanks,
Amanda & Brandon


Source: Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22518


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I'm on AMD too, and it works "fine". Windows 11 is a bit all over the place. Sometimes it is very slow and sluggish and very next minute it is running fine. Not sure what to think really.

Then there is the other system I have that is on official build and that one broke completely after 3 months on errorless usage. Go figure...
Yeah, one minute it boots as fast as I could wish for and the next boot it’s sluggish…very sluggish. Still needs a lot of work I think. The intel powered machine though is consistent and has been since the leaked build in May
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro Beta, 11 Dev, W11 Canary
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware M15 Ryzen Edition R6
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
    1 x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
It is odd, the intel machine has no problems, the amd just crashes and burns when I open the media player, if I uninstall it and download Groove it’s fine but as soon as it update gain via the store, back to the crashes.
SO.. you blame AMD for that?:?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3500
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
Yeah, one minute it boots as fast as I could wish for and the next boot it’s sluggish…very sluggish. Still needs a lot of work I think. The intel powered machine though is consistent and has been since the leaked build in May
I am not talking about boot performance, nor inconsistency between boots, but inconsistency during a session. It is very odd.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
I think everybody should take all their damn PC's and throw them in the trash bin!!! :cool:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
I think everybody should take all their damn PC's and throw them in the trash bin!!! :cool:
Kill them with FIRE first.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3500
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro Beta, 11 Dev, W11 Canary
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware M15 Ryzen Edition R6
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
    1 x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
Kill them with FIRE first.
My Grandparents had to chop wood, to build a fire, to boil water, to have a hot bath..., and they accomplished more in one day than any dozen of us, with our fancy toys, combined!!! :cool:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3500
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
My Grandparents had to chop wood, to build a fire, to boil water, to have a hot bath..., and they accomplished more in one day than any dozen of us, with our fancy toys, combined!!! :cool:
So true.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3500
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro Beta, 11 Dev, W11 Canary
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware M15 Ryzen Edition R6
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
    1 x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
Sound of silence, sound of music, sound of AMD ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W10 and Insider Dev.+ Linux Mint
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home brewed
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 7900x
    Motherboard
    ASROCK b650 PRO RS
    Memory
    2x8GB Kingston 6000MHz, Cl 32 @ 6200MHz Cl30
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Rx 6600XT Gaming OC 8G Pro
    Sound Card
    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Kingston KC3000. 1TBSamsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB, Lexar NVMe 2 TB, Silicon Power M.2 SATA 500GB
    PSU
    Seasonic 750W
    Case
    Custom Raidmax
    Cooling
    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360mm
    Internet Speed
    20/19 mbps
Mine is still crapping out at 25% install... had a look at your other thread and I think it involves creating an update ISO? Hope that's right - does it keep everything and just update? Don't wanna kill this install if I can help it! Thanks
hey, if you are still having issues... i played around with my clone again and found another option as well. if it is on unsupported hardware, there is new TPM Bypass script: Skip_TPM_Check_on_Dynamic_Update v7. once v7 is applied, the 22518 update went through flawlessly...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
I have an AMD Ryzen 5600X desktop and after the latest AMD chipset driver from ASRock, with AIDA64 benchmarking, it performs as good as it did under Win10 and is even a little zippier now. I don't notice the shifts in performance that others have mentioned.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Ryzen 5600X
    Motherboard
    ASRock Steel Legend
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GT 710
    Sound Card
    None
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23",24", 19" - flat panels
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    None - only M.2 SATA and NVMe drives
    PSU
    750W
    Case
    Antec
    Cooling
    stock Wraith cooler
    Keyboard
    Corsair gaming
    Mouse
    Logitech M720
    Internet Speed
    1Gb

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Beta channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    a cherry-picked assembly
    CPU
    AMD R9 3900X
    Motherboard
    x570 Aorus Master Rev 1.0, bios F38
    Memory
    4x 8GB 3733Mhz @ 1.35v
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD RX-6900 XT
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs G6 USB External Sound device, Gaming DAC, Sound Card & Earphone AMP.. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, btw. Totally changed my opinion of external USB sound. I like!...;)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 43" Momentum DisplayHDR 1000-certified
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Boot: Samsung 980 Pro PCIe4 2TB NVMe| 980 Pro 500GB NVMe| ST4000DM004 S3 4TB| 8 TB Toshiba X300 S3| LG MultiDrive DVD writer
    PSU
    Corsair HX-850
    Case
    Antec 302
    Cooling
    Air courtesy Noctua
    Keyboard
    Non-mechanical (mechanicals are too small for my hands)
    Mouse
    Razer Basilisk V2 20k DPI
    Internet Speed
    ~450Mbps down and up!
    Browser
    Firefox x64 DE
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Sweet, trouble-free system! How I love this 6900XT! Exceeds my expectations by quite a bit, btw.
Well - seems I'll be dumping 11 and going back to 10 then (after having not one single performance issue at all with my PC) ... they really have no idea how to support customers at all... It's almost as bad as the whole Vista debacle.

They've chosen to adopt technologies that are already out of date, then force them upon people if they want to update. Except of course they didn't initially force us, but allowed us to install stuff in Dev, try it all out for them, then screw us over once they have a stable build - nice one Microsoft!

It's even more hilarious in that my crappy laptop is 'supported' despite having a fraction of the power or capacity of my desktop.
Just curious as to what "out of date" hardware feature is it that Win11 is requiring you to support?

Yes, Win10 will be supported for at least three more years, from what Microsoft has said, and that sounds like a good move for you. Wrestling with Win11 continuously, trying to beat that square peg into a round hole doesn't sound like much fun to me! Should be plenty of time for you to get yourself that "out of date" hardware feature that you don't have, atm...:wink: I like Win10 just fine--and it was really beginning to shine in ways that are important to me when Microsoft sprung Win11 on us all--like some macabre jack-in-the-box...:wink: "Boo!--I'm here and I gotcha'!" I recall that, a couple of weeks before the announcement made it official, that I thought it was all bunk--another Internet rumor destined to be forgotten. Ha!

I was pleased to note that every one of the required Win11 baseline security features was fully supported under Win10, and that I had already been running them all! Only difference is now they are required, but then they were optional (optional but smart, imo). I bought my present motherboard in early July, 2019, and all Win11 required features were present and accounted for (2.5 years ago.) fTPM 2.0 (upgraded from 1.2) came in a bios update, but the fTMP hardware itself came standard on the motherboard. I'd been running Secure Boot since sometime in mid 2016, IIRC. (I've been in the Insider's beta group since 10/1/2014.)

It may not be popular when a major OS upgrades its hardware requirements, but it's anything but new or unprecedented. A simple example would be in 1995 when overnight Win95 doubled the minimum ram requirements, and then with the introduction of Win x64 and then Vista x64 (ran only on AMD's A64 CPUs at the time as Intel was late to the x64 party), minimum ram requirements doubled again! What happened--people bellyached as they are wont to do, of course--but the bottom line is that the price of ram per MB, and then per GB, dropped straight down like the proverbial Newton stone in a vacuum...:wink: We've been flush with an abundance of ram ever since. What happened was, as Win95 upped the demand for ram straight though the roof, the ram makers invested heavily new manufacturing facilities and the price of ram has been pretty decent ever since. I can barely recall when ram actually cost > $100 per Megabyte. Yes, MB!

I'll end this heartwarming dip into the romantic past by only pointing out the obvious--that both hardware and software manufacturers end up dramatically influencing the price of hardware. It's literally the "price" (should be "non-price") of technical progress. The shift from 8-bit ISA's moving to 16-bits, to 32-bits, and finally to 64-bits...to who knows, eventually. Then there are the changing system bus standards, ISA bus, to PCI, to PCIe; changing ram standards, like EDO (barely remembered here) to DDR5, etc., and everything in-between. GPU development has been a long and bumpy road, too, conforming to the changes listed here, only some of which are mentioned here--plus so many other things that have come along that have necessitated the purchase of new hardware. Greatest thing of all is that our industry--the mainline consumer computing industry--is one of continuous negative inflation! And that is a wonderful statistic to see and achieve! Few other industries have it. Computing has it and survives admirably because the growth is steady and sure and demand is ever-growing with no signs of abating. So even though the prices are demonstrably lower today, the demand is demonstrably higher! Build a better mousetrap and they will come.

Here's my own compelling example...short and sweet, but illustrative of the points here. In 1995, I purchased my very last pre-built OEM system--a system built around an original Pentium 166MHz. (I owned several AMD Athlon and Commodore (Amiga) pre-built boxes before this one, and simultaneously alongside this one.) But this makes the point perfectly. It dinged the meter at ~$4,700 US dollars, a Micron system. Last Man Standing! :sleep: Anyway,...... my present AMD system cost less than half of that while providing thousands of times more storage and computational power than that early Pentium system, and it supports a comparatively huge amount of ram and a 64-bit ISA, etc.

The really great thing is that we are only now poised at the very beginning of this thing we call 'personal computing'! Anyway...the baseline requirements for Win11, while not brand-new at all, do indeed up the baseline security of Windows 11 versus the baseline requirements of Win10. I see that as progress, considering how dramatically the prevalence of root kits and other very nasty little buggers these days.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Beta channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    a cherry-picked assembly
    CPU
    AMD R9 3900X
    Motherboard
    x570 Aorus Master Rev 1.0, bios F38
    Memory
    4x 8GB 3733Mhz @ 1.35v
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD RX-6900 XT
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs G6 USB External Sound device, Gaming DAC, Sound Card & Earphone AMP.. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, btw. Totally changed my opinion of external USB sound. I like!...;)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 43" Momentum DisplayHDR 1000-certified
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Boot: Samsung 980 Pro PCIe4 2TB NVMe| 980 Pro 500GB NVMe| ST4000DM004 S3 4TB| 8 TB Toshiba X300 S3| LG MultiDrive DVD writer
    PSU
    Corsair HX-850
    Case
    Antec 302
    Cooling
    Air courtesy Noctua
    Keyboard
    Non-mechanical (mechanicals are too small for my hands)
    Mouse
    Razer Basilisk V2 20k DPI
    Internet Speed
    ~450Mbps down and up!
    Browser
    Firefox x64 DE
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Sweet, trouble-free system! How I love this 6900XT! Exceeds my expectations by quite a bit, btw.
Hi,
Anybody having a problem with wordpad.exe opening in build 22518.1012?
A few users have seen this problem including myself.
On one machine it takes 45 to 50 seconds just to open wordpad.exe, while other machines at the same Build level don't show this problem at all.
Yet on the same failing machine after a clean install of 22518.1012 the problem goes away.
Note that when it fails, no problems are found by SFC /SCANNOW and also DISM restore health does not correct anything.

It looks like something left over from previous Windows 11 Dev Builds; I filed an FBH report with recording, I hope MS comes out with a fix, I hate to reinstall everything I need after a clean Windows install, this bug is pretty consistent, it hangs for 45 secs every time.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Yoga 920
    CPU
    Intel I7-8550U
    Motherboard
    n/a
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics UHD 620
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (SST)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Touch screen
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
Hi,
Anybody having a problem with wordpad.exe opening in build 22518.1012?
A few users have seen this problem including myself.
On one machine it takes 45 to 50 seconds just to open wordpad.exe, while other machines at the same Build level don't show this problem at all.
Yet on the same failing machine after a clean install of 22518.1012 the problem goes away.
Note that when it fails, no problems are found by SFC /SCANNOW and also DISM restore health does not correct anything.

It looks like something left over from previous Windows 11 Dev Builds; I filed an FBH report with recording, I hope MS comes out with a fix, I hate to reinstall everything I need after a clean Windows install, this bug is pretty consistent, it hangs for 45 secs every time.

Always will be problems in IP builds. So you not need to excited.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-11400F
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce GT-1030
    Keyboard
    Logitech K400
    Mouse
    Logitech M720
    Internet Speed
    600 Mb
    Browser
    Edge
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    CPU
    Pentium N4200
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 505
    Sound Card
    HD Definition Audio Device
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Mouse
    M510
    Internet Speed
    100Mb +
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
Anybody having a problem with wordpad.exe opening in build 22518.1012?
Opened up in less than a second for me. The new Notepad Preview UWP app took longer to open on first launch. On second try that one opened fast too.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
hey, if you are still having issues... i played around with my clone again and found another option as well. if it is on unsupported hardware, there is new TPM Bypass script: Skip_TPM_Check_on_Dynamic_Update v7. once v7 is applied, the 22518 update went through flawlessly...
Sorry not been well... PCR says not Covid so much be a bad case of Man-Flu!

I'll give this a go thanks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS One 2720
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 4600 & GeForce GT 750M
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560*1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD boot drive connected via mSATA card
    2TB SSD Data Drive
    Case
    AIO
    Internet Speed
    1GB Fibre
    Antivirus
    Microsoft
@dacrone

Sadly no go - got to 35% installing - jumped to 100% - asked for a restart - back to finding the update again - round and round it goes 😭
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS One 2720
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 4600 & GeForce GT 750M
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560*1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD boot drive connected via mSATA card
    2TB SSD Data Drive
    Case
    AIO
    Internet Speed
    1GB Fibre
    Antivirus
    Microsoft
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