Insider KB5017321 Windows 11 Insider Release Preview Build 22621.521 22H2 - Sept. 13

Bree · Sep 17, 2022

johnlgalt said:
Every other build installed thus far (Win 10 stable, 10 IP (19044.2xxx), Windows 11 (built from the MCT), and Windows 11IP 21H2 (22000.1041) all gave me the option to do local only when I clicked on sign in options. This build only had "connect or security", not local sign in option.

I though this was supposed to be limited to Home editions only?

No, MS has made that a requirement for Pro too, been like that at least as far back as build 22557 in February.

Similar to Windows 11 Home edition, Windows 11 Pro edition now requires internet connectivity. If you choose to setup device for personal use, MSA will be required for setup as well. You can expect Microsoft Account to be required in subsequent WIP flights.

Windows 11 Insider Dev Build 22557.1 (ni_release) - Feb. 16

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fg2001gf11F · Sep 17, 2022

cereberus said:
This is rather inaccurate - there are two versions of Beta 22622.598 and 22621.598 and an RP version 22621.521.

The 22622 version contains experimental features that may or may not get into final RTM. The same is potentially true to a lesser degree for 22621/598 but very unlikely. MS categorically ste features in Beta may not make it into RTM.

Features in 22621.521 RP will make it into RTM unless MS need to pull a feature e.g. if problems are identified that would delay release of RTM in order to fix the issues.

You can could at one time revert from 22622.290 to 22621.290 by uninstalling the enablement package update but I am not sure if this works for 22622.598 - anybody know?

So in pecking order

22621.521 RP - all features will make it to RTM unless serious issues identified

22621.598 Beta - most if not all features should make it to RTM but not absolutely guaranteed (pretty much same as RP but slightly less certain)

2262.598 - whilst most features should make it to RTM, no guarantees that any of new experimental features will make it to RTM.

For clarity DEV builds are only ever test beds, and any features MS decide to add to next but one RTM (beyond next RTM release) will cascade into Beta/RP versions in due course.

Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22621.598 and 22622.598

Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22621.598 and Build 22622.598 (KB5017390) to the Beta Channel. Build 22622.598 = New features rolling out.

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22621.598 and 22622.598

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Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22621.598 and Build 22622.598 (KB5017390) to the Beta Channel.

Build 22622.598 = New features rolling out.
Build 22621.598 = New features off by default.

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No release notes or MS blog for 22621.521. Now MS is pretty inaccurate!

johnlgalt · Sep 18, 2022

fg2001gf11F said:
It is not limited just to Home edition, MS started requiring MSA on any edition.
There are still ways of bypassing that requirement, but it needs some little tricks that you can find on the web.

Bypass Microsoft Account requirement when setting up Windows 11 with internet

Microsoft keeps making it harder for consumers to set up Windows with just a local account. For the privacy conscious or other use cases, especially when using the Pro edition, it should be possible.

www.neowin.net

Or you can use oobe\bypassnro to install without internet connection:

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Bree said:
No, MS has made that a requirement for Pro too, been like that at least as far back as build 22557 in February.

Windows 11 Insider Dev Build 22557.1 (ni_release) - Feb. 16

UPDATE 2/24: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/windows-11-insider-dev-build-22563-1-ni_release-feb-24.4857/ Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22557 to the Dev Channel. TL;DR Windows Insiders will notice that the name of the branch we are releasing...

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Well, it's been longer than that since I cleanly instealled and tried to use a local only account, then. Lol.

Oh well. End of an era, I suppose.

Bree · Sep 18, 2022

johnlgalt said:
Oh well. End of an era, I suppose.

Not if you know all the workarounds.... :wink:

johnlgalt · Sep 18, 2022

No time for figuring out the workarounds right now, I need these up and running. I'll research them in the future to figure out how to fix the .ISOs and implement them in the future.

Plus, I use an MSA on the host system, so really, it's just for convenience sake (and being able to use Enhanced Sessions) that I do it.

cereberus · Sep 18, 2022

The oobe\bypassnro trick no longer works!

jimbo45 · Sep 18, 2022

Hi there

@cereberus

This one still works -- did it yesterday when creating a new VM.

Account email : " nobody@nobody.com"

password "bollo--s" (or equivalent English for some male biological body parts equivalent to "Little Round Objects").

Then you get message "Oops something went wrong --then go to NEXT and then you are on your way.

There's obviously an existing email account at ms with "nobody@nobody.com" whereas Ms now checks for actual existing accounts.

Could also be that the Ms A.I doesn't like those sorts of passwords !!! whether valid or not. !!

If you use your own with a failed password then you also get bounced into "reset password etc".

Working fine with local account as a VM. Clean installed, then added language pack (original lang was Eng - GB) and then installed filezilla and firefox plus own theme after base install. Nothing else on the system at this point.

Cheers
jimbo

RuLich · Sep 18, 2022

Can you please install this edition (version) on WMware in audit mode?.
Windows 11 Insider Preview 10.0.22622.598 (ni_release) amd64

During installation, there is no option to select the language when the Ctrl+Shift+F3 key should be pressed
Thank you for the explanation.

cereberus · Sep 18, 2022

jimbo45 said:
Hi there

@cereberus

This one still works -- did it yesterday when creating a new VM.

Account email : " nobody@nobody.com"

password "bollo--s" (or equivalent English for some male biological body parts equivalent to "Little Round Objects").

Then you get message "Oops something went wrong --then go to NEXT and then you are on your way.

There's obviously an existing email account at ms with "nobody@nobody.com" whereas Ms now checks for actual existing accounts.

Could also be that the Ms A.I doesn't like those sorts of passwords !!! whether valid or not. !!

If you use your own with a failed password then you also get bounced into "reset password etc".

Working fine with local account as a VM. Clean installed, then added language pack (original lang was Eng - GB) and then installed filezilla and firefox plus own theme after base install. Nothing else on the system at this point.

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Cheers
jimbo

yeah I know. It is just posters saying about oobe\bypassnro trick.

jimbo45 · Sep 18, 2022

RuLich said:
Can you please install this edition (version) on WMware in audit mode?.
Windows 11 Insider Preview 10.0.22622.598 (ni_release) amd64

During installation, there is no option to select the language when the Ctrl+Shift+F3 key should be pressed
Thank you for the explanation.

What are you installing it from -- UUP ISO, Insider build, or basic WU.
.
In any case if there's a problem then just install language pack you want after install if you don't get a choice. If you are installing from an ISO I'd be very suspicious if it didn't offer a language choice. Some languages e.g Icelandic aren't on basic install options but can be added afterwards.

I haven't used VMware for a while now (prefer Linux Host with KVM/QEMU) but from my last use of VMware on Windows the VM wizard and install worked perfectly OK so either your install ISO is not good or there's another problem with your system.

Cheers
jimbo

fg2001gf11F · Sep 18, 2022

cereberus said:
The oobe\bypassnro trick no longer works!

oobe\bypassnro still works fine, it was broken on one release of development Build 25193, but now it works fine again.
I use it all the time with no problems.

Bree · Sep 18, 2022

cereberus said:
The oobe\bypassnro trick no longer works!

For which build?

RuLich · Sep 19, 2022

OK, everything is fine now. I messed up. Sorry.

erpster4 · Sep 20, 2022

KB5017321 officially available on MS Update Catalog Tue. Sept. 20:

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{x64 download} {ARM64 download}

Brink · Sep 20, 2022

KB5017321 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Build 22621.521 (22H2) - Sept. 20

UPDATE 9/27: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/kb5019311-cumulative-update-for-windows-11-build-22621-525-22h2-sept-27.9258/ Release notes will be posted when made available by Microsoft. Check Windows Updates You can upgrade with the new official Windows 11 Build 22621.382 ISO file, then...

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magilla · Sep 20, 2022

Brink said:
KB5017321 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Build 22621.521 (22H2) - Sept. 20

UPDATE 9/27: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/kb5019311-cumulative-update-for-windows-11-build-22621-525-22h2-sept-27.9258/ Release notes will be posted when made available by Microsoft. Check Windows Updates You can upgrade with the new official Windows 11 Build 22621.382 ISO file, then...

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@Brink, Is there an advantage to updating when you are already on 22621.521?

Brink · Sep 20, 2022

magilla said:
@Brink, Is there an advantage to updating when you are already on 22621.521?

Hello mate,

No. If you're in the Release Preview channel, you could choose to stop getting Insider builds and stay on the public releases.

asturias7 · Sep 20, 2022

magilla said:
@Brink, Is there an advantage to updating when you are already on 22621.521?

I've had this build for a few days and, of course, it won't show up in Windows Update.

magilla · Sep 20, 2022

Brink said:
Hello mate,

No. If you're in the Release Preview channel, you could choose to stop getting Insider builds and stay on the public releases.

Thank you. I don't intend to stop with the Insider program or divest from Elevenforum.

RuLich · Oct 2, 2022

jimbo45 said:
What are you installing it from -- UUP ISO, Insider build, or basic WU.
.
In any case if there's a problem then just install language pack you want after install if you don't get a choice. If you are installing from an ISO I'd be very suspicious if it didn't offer a language choice. Some languages e.g Icelandic aren't on basic install options but can be added afterwards.

I haven't used VMware for a while now (prefer Linux Host with KVM/QEMU) but from my last use of VMware on Windows the VM wizard and install worked perfectly OK so either your install ISO is not good or there's another problem with your system.

Cheers
jimbo

Disable Easy Install in VMware Workstation

When installing on VMware, stop the installation at the beginning and remove the Floppy drive in the settings. Then re-install and there is already a choice of partition and language. I'm glad I figured it out. Otherwise, thanks for trying to help.