KVM/QEMU latest updates - VM's really mega fast even on 11 Gen CPU laptop with concurrent VM's


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Hi folks
After latest updates to KVM/QEMU running several W11 VM's concurrently on a laptop with gen 11 i7 cpu works brilliantly.

No complaints and the W11 VM's run almost as fast as on Native physical system. VM's all running from an external Nvme (SSD type) drive too.

Barely any load on the host CPU !!

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Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows XP,11 Linux Fedora Rawhide pre-release 45
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
    Screen Resolution
    4KUHD X 2
Can I use KVM/QEMU as a guest?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 7,8.1,10,11, Mint, Kde Plasma, Debian
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6500U CPU @ 2.50GHz
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520/Nvidia GeForce 930M
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) Display Audio/RealtekAudio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic Pnp Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1366 X 768
    Hard Drives
    ST2000LM024-1EJ164
    Keyboard
    Eng (US)
    Mouse
    Sanwa Supply
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Avast One
    Other Info
    Too many laptops with different system specifications.

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Thanks for the explanation.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 7,8.1,10,11, Mint, Kde Plasma, Debian
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6500U CPU @ 2.50GHz
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520/Nvidia GeForce 930M
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) Display Audio/RealtekAudio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic Pnp Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1366 X 768
    Hard Drives
    ST2000LM024-1EJ164
    Keyboard
    Eng (US)
    Mouse
    Sanwa Supply
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Avast One
    Other Info
    Too many laptops with different system specifications.
Can I use KVM/QEMU as a guest?
You need to enable "Nested Virtualisation" on the HOST OS. It can also be done with Windows as the host -- but you need also to enable things like IOMMAX in the hardware physical BIOS boot. So you would essentially be running say HYPER-V as HOST, VM level 1 = any Linux with KVM/QEMU as Guest OS nr 1 which acts as a HOST for the next Guest OS and then as VM level 2 your Guest OS nr 2.Could be windows or whatever. You might for performance need to use some hardware passthru though.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,11 Linux Fedora Rawhide pre-release 45
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
    Screen Resolution
    4KUHD X 2
Useful info, thanks!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 7,8.1,10,11, Mint, Kde Plasma, Debian
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6500U CPU @ 2.50GHz
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520/Nvidia GeForce 930M
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) Display Audio/RealtekAudio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic Pnp Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1366 X 768
    Hard Drives
    ST2000LM024-1EJ164
    Keyboard
    Eng (US)
    Mouse
    Sanwa Supply
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Avast One
    Other Info
    Too many laptops with different system specifications.
Its a long time since I used KVM/QEMU.


1) How is it installed or are there distros where it is built in?

2) Does it emulate TPM?

3) Does Linux Host need W11 compatible CPU

4) Is distro type important?

5) Do W11 guests need any special considerations to get all featiures e.g. sound?

6) Have you benchmarked vm speed against Hyper-V (I use passmark which is a reasonable benchmarking tool).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Its a long time since I used KVM/QEMU.


1) How is it installed or are there distros where it is built in?

2) Does it emulate TPM?

3) Does Linux Host need W11 compatible CPU

4) Is distro type important?

5) Do W11 guests need any special considerations to get all featiures e.g. sound?

6) Have you benchmarked vm speed against Hyper-V (I use passmark which is a reasonable benchmarking tool).
Hi there
1) simply install the KVM/QEMU package. The easiest distro currently is Fedora rel 43
good guide here: Hint -- for bridged networking use the cockpit and create a network bridge -- no setup needed - it does it all for you.


2) Yes -- usually you need to install SWTPM although some distros often include it. It runs TPM v2 emulation - “ut you can of course use a physical TPM if you want to if running a Linux HOST.

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3) Not necessarily - in the VM setup (use the GUI Virtual Machine Manager) uncheck the physical Host CPU and then choose one from a drop down of options. It only takes a few mins to start W11 install and see if you get message about incompatible hardware.

4) Not really although some are easier than others -- Fedora is a doddle and since3 supported by RedHat / IBM works really well. RedHat / IBM have loads of commercial cloud / corporate users and Fedora is used before stuff gets ported to their servers.Debian is fine if you don't want leading edge distros.

5) No problem with sound on W11 Guests. So long as the HOST has a recogniseable sound system. Note also you can install native USB devices on a Guest so if your Linux box has sound issues then just install a usb->audio on the GUEST. Shouldn;t be necessary though.

6) Not compared yet with that type of tool - but just from user experience performance is fine. It's better too if you use "Virtio" for HDD and network. At W11 GUEST install time the windows installer will say "No disks found" -- Install driver -- then install from the virtio iso windows drivers on the guest. When Guest installed install the rest of the drivers - this acts like Vbox additions or Vmware tools in giving all video modes, better mouse control etc etc.

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A good thing about running W11 Guests on Linux is that these don't run under a specific user -- so you can log off the HOST - so the VM still runs in the background and any authorised user can logon to your W11 Guest. This is also useful if you use the VM for file serving / backups / music / video streaming etc. Linux can read / write ntfs files.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,11 Linux Fedora Rawhide pre-release 45
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
    Screen Resolution
    4KUHD X 2
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