MS Office uninstall - how much do I need to remove - and how?


@Edwin, I wasn't sure you could install over the top like that - normal advice seems to be don't as it'll cause problems?
It could..., probably best to follow the advice of the professionals.
 

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Just install it over top and click on Switch License..., it'll find the proper features.
That is what have to do every time I install Microsoft 365 after a clean install of Windows 11 on my computers. Hasn't failed yet.
Because there's actually nothing "installed", that entry in Apps is just an installation "stub", a bit of sleight of hand by Microsoft to make users think it came with Windows, click on it, then unsuspectingly have to follow the steps to purchase the product from Microsoft ... and unknowingly accept the default setting for auto renewal and get trapped for life !! I call it predatory marketing.

EDIT
And as I have seen countless times, the dangers of leaving it (the app stub) there and just installing a full version "over the top of it" is that users inadvertently mistake the icon in the Start menu for the subsequent fully installed version, click on it and it proceeds to (re)install Office, thus stuffing up the legitimate previous installed version

Also, installing ANY version of MS Office over the top of any already installed version of MS Office is fraught with dangers and often ends in tears. Each version of MS Office has its own in sub/folder in Program Files (Microsoft Office 13/14/15/16 ... etc) so a nerw installation doesn't replace/overwrite the old/existing version. Consequently, Microsoft's "control" of the default program for Office components (when more than one version exists) is chaotic, to say the least.
 

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That is what have to do every time I install Microsoft 365 after a clean install of Windows 11 on my computers. Hasn't failed yet.
Oops, I should've been a bit more precise. I have a M365 business subscription that includes the usual apps and heap of other stuff like Exchange Online et al. So, when I do a new install of the M365 apps I have to activate the license with a different login to the standard MS account that I use with Windows 11.
 

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Because there's actually nothing "installed"
Yup..., it's just a bunch of features appearing or disappearing! 🤷‍♂️
 

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I really don't think MS gives a sh*t, as long as they get your money!

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Right now I've got a dual suite running. 🤷‍♂️

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Hi all, thanks again to everyone for your help. I think I have solved this satisfactorily, and in my case I was probably worrying too much, but at the same time I think I'd advise full removal in cases of doubt for the reasons discussed above.

I wasn't happy with the amount of Office leftovers I was finding, partly because of the activation failure first time round, but at the same time I was nervous about the manual uninstall procedures I was reading (partly because they were inconsistent), and of using Revo; which was silly really, as I've edited registries quite happily in the past, and people seem to have a lot of confidence in Revo and don't have problems with it.

When I ran Revo (but baled out without actually cleaning) it found a lot of Office related registry keys, but all Click to Run, rather than Office itself. The Office set up I had was click to run, I hadn't actually installed or activated the 365 trial, and after having uninstalled my previous installation attempt and cleaned up file and folder leftovers I couldn't see anything directly Office left.

The retailer's download / install instructions didn't say anything about cleaning to the extent I was considering, so in the end I decided just to go for it, ran the installer and all went OK; I hope I'm not speaking too soon, but I now have an activated and functional Office perpetual licence installation, no sign of duplication, 365 or activation issues, no 365 / installer stub in Start, just Word / Excel etc. as it should be.

Because there's actually nothing "installed", that entry in Apps is just an installation "stub", a bit of sleight of hand by Microsoft to make users think it came with Windows, click on it, then unsuspectingly have to follow the steps to purchase the product from Microsoft ... and unknowingly accept the default setting for auto renewal and get trapped for life !! I call it predatory marketing.

EDIT
And as I have seen countless times, the dangers of leaving it (the app stub) there and just installing a full version "over the top of it" is that users inadvertently mistake the icon in the Start menu for the subsequent fully installed version, click on it and it proceeds to (re)install Office, thus stuffing up the legitimate previous installed version

... and my retailer's instructions, and Microsoft, specifically warn about this for those reasons

Also, installing ANY version of MS Office over the top of any already installed version of MS Office is fraught with dangers and often ends in tears. Each version of MS Office has its own in sub/folder in Program Files (Microsoft Office 13/14/15/16 ... etc) so a nerw installation doesn't replace/overwrite the old/existing version. Consequently, Microsoft's "control" of the default program for Office components (when more than one version exists) is chaotic, to say the least.

Microsoft seem to suggest the click to run or MSI installers should remove previous versions, but in reality that doesn't seem to be the case; they seem to either ignore previous versions, or fall over if there's interference between the two. I've probably spent a disproportionate amount of time worrying about this and trying to get to a definitive answer, but I think I'd recommend full removal if there is any doubt (and you're not dual installing?)

Thanks again for everyone's thoughts, they've been very helpful.
 

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Common sense AND AI answer makes sense on this one.

Short Answer: In most cases, Microsoft 365 and Office 2021 cannot run side-by-side on the same PC. The only exception is if one of them is installed using the MSI installer (volume licensed version), in which case they can coexist. Otherwise, you’ll run into conflicts and errors.


🖥️ Why They Conflict​

  • Shared components: Both suites use the same core Office apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.), so installing them together usually causes file association and update conflicts.
  • Click-to-Run vs MSI: Microsoft 365 and retail Office 2021 are typically installed via Click-to-Run. Two Click-to-Run versions cannot coexist.
  • Volume license exception: If Office 2021 is installed via MSI (common in enterprise environments), it can run alongside Microsoft 365.

Microsoft recommends not running both together unless you have a specific enterprise MSI deployment scenario. For most home or small business users, it’s safer to pick one version to avoid conflicts

If you need features from both:
  • Separate Windows accounts/sessions: Some users run Office 2021 in one Windows profile and sign into Microsoft 365 in another.
  • Virtual machines: Install one version inside a VM to keep environments isolated.
  • Stick to one version: If possible, choose the suite that best fits your needs (Office 2021 for one-time purchase stability, Microsoft 365 for cloud features and updates).
 

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The only exception is if one of them is installed using the MSI installer (volume licensed version), in which case they can coexist.
That's where the cheapie StackSocial licenses come in handy!

Cool thing is, if I wanna go completely offline with the entire Suite, I just sign out..., if I want all the bells and whistles, I sign in again! 🤷‍♂️

I'm just sayin, I like to experiment with what works and what doesn't!
I'm not encouraging anyone to do reckless sh*t like I do!!! ⚠️
 

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Rebel Without A Cause, that's our Edwin. :cool:
LOL!!! That pretty much sums it up accurately! :woozy:
Hey..., I'm bored! 🤷‍♂️

I assure you it works though, but..., you're right about updates, they perpetually update against each other! :eyeroll:

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Pretty much the solitary reason I wanted to try 365 was for Excel dark mode, which, by the way, only works with the Black Theme, and the Black Theme sucks in PowerPoint..., for what I use it for anyway.
 

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Try this tool ;-)

Office Install or Remove tool

1 - disable AV
2 - run App for your WIN architecture
3 - select Unistalling Office and Select Force uninstall
4 - wait until proces will be done :cool:
5 - exit App
6 - enable AV
7 - reboot PC

(y)

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That is not an MS tool.
It has been written by Ratiborus, whoever they are.
And the download site(s) are not https.


Denis
If MS is unable to produce a proper uninstaller :mad:, then there is no choice but to turn to Ratiborus. :cool:
 

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... they perpetually update against each other!
Checked for updates in each app, for each license..., all good now across the board.

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