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chipsang

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Thank you for giving me opportunity to join this wonderful forum to share /gain knowledge.
Windows 11 pro of one of my friends pc has crashed after updates , He has formatted it after which some of folders from D drive have become inaccessible and files from this folder are not opening ( access denied error)
I think NTFS permissions & ownership assigned previously is changed which is causing this issue.
I tried "Take ownership Pro" but it failed. I have also tried manually to change inherittance and ownership but somehow I am not able to do it.
Is there any other way to take full control of the folder ? I am currently processing this folder from windows 10 PC. Is that reason of failure ?
Appreciate any help.
Thank you
 
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Welcome to the forum.

Firstly, you don’t need 3rd party apps. You can add these to your right click context menu.
Also, messing with permissions can be detrimental.

www.elevenforum.com

Add Take Ownership to Context Menu in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to add Take Ownership to the context menu of all files, folders, and drives for all users in Windows 10 and Windows 11. This will allow you to be able to instantly take ownership of a file, folder (and all contents), or drive (and all contents) by changing the...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

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Add "Reset Permissions" to Context Menu in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to add or remove the "Reset Permissions" context menu to reset effective permissions of files and folders back to their default inherited permissions in Windows 10 and Windows 11. On NTFS and ReFS volumes, you can set security permissions on files and folders...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

Accessing folders on a drive via another PC can sometimes be tricky, especially if they were at some point user folders.

chipsang said:
I am currently processing this folder from windows 10 PC
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How come?
 

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Perhaps the external has somehow adopted Bitlocker protection? I don’t know.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5039
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    PC/Desktop
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    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
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    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
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    Silverstone 1500
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    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
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    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
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    I’m on a horse.
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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
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    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
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    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
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    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
Welcome to the forum. No, using 10 does not matter when trying to change ownership. First of all I use the native "Take Ownership" method. I'm not familiar with the app you used
www.elevenforum.com

Add Take Ownership to Context Menu in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to add Take Ownership to the context menu of all files, folders, and drives for all users in Windows 10 and Windows 11. This will allow you to be able to instantly take ownership of a file, folder (and all contents), or drive (and all contents) by changing the...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com


Things to try:

1. If the drive was bitlocked (or encrypted by any other method), you can forget it if you do not have the key.

2. Try to take ownership of the entire drive. See @hsehestedt post #2 here.

Take Ownership? Not This Time.....

Hi all..... So my own mini PC died, but I got the backup 1Tb drive out of it with all my data on it - I'm now trying to access it in a external case on another PC, but no joy..... The drive was configured in my previous PC using Group Policy Editor so that the other two users of the PC couldn't...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

3. I don't waste a lot of time when permissions are involved. If the normal "take ownership" or cmd line method doesn't work, I always use one of the live Linux distros on a bootable usb drive to recover files, and then test and reformat the drive. Linux doesn't care about permissions. You boot from the drive, run it live rather than install, and copy files to another drive.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3775
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    DELL 0J37VM
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    32 gb
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    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Integrated Realtek
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    Benq 27
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    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
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    500w
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    MT
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    Dell Premium
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    Logitech wired
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    Logitech wireless
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    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
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    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
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    Defender+MWB Premium
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    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
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    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
antspants said:
Welcome to the forum.

Firstly, you don’t need 3rd party apps. You can add these to your right click context menu.
Also, messing with permissions can be detrimental.

www.elevenforum.com

Add Take Ownership to Context Menu in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to add Take Ownership to the context menu of all files, folders, and drives for all users in Windows 10 and Windows 11. This will allow you to be able to instantly take ownership of a file, folder (and all contents), or drive (and all contents) by changing the...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

www.elevenforum.com

Add "Reset Permissions" to Context Menu in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to add or remove the "Reset Permissions" context menu to reset effective permissions of files and folders back to their default inherited permissions in Windows 10 and Windows 11. On NTFS and ReFS volumes, you can set security permissions on files and folders...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

Accessing folders on a drive via another PC can sometimes be tricky, especially if they were at some point user folders.



How come?
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Hi antspants .Thank you so much for lightening fast help.
I have downloaded reg file & tried to take ownership .I am getting message as successful but actual files are still giving error "access denied"
Original locked folder is on crashed disk & files , folders cannot getting copied , however I have recovered it using pc3000.
Should I try it by on windows 11 pc.
Thanks again(y):-)
 

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antspants said:
Perhaps the external has somehow adopted Bitlocker protection? I don’t know.
Click to expand...
D drive where locked folder is located is not having bitlocker encryption and is accessible.
However file icon shows yellow lock sign.
 

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glasskuter said:
Welcome to the forum. No, using 10 does not matter when trying to change ownership. First of all I use the native "Take Ownership" method. I'm not familiar with the app you used
www.elevenforum.com

Add Take Ownership to Context Menu in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to add Take Ownership to the context menu of all files, folders, and drives for all users in Windows 10 and Windows 11. This will allow you to be able to instantly take ownership of a file, folder (and all contents), or drive (and all contents) by changing the...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com


Things to try:

1. If the drive was bitlocked (or encrypted by any other method), you can forget it if you do not have the key.

2. Try to take ownership of the entire drive. See @hsehestedt post #2 here.

Take Ownership? Not This Time.....

Hi all..... So my own mini PC died, but I got the backup 1Tb drive out of it with all my data on it - I'm now trying to access it in a external case on another PC, but no joy..... The drive was configured in my previous PC using Group Policy Editor so that the other two users of the PC couldn't...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

3. I don't waste a lot of time when permissions are involved. If the normal "take ownership" or cmd line method doesn't work, I always use one of the live Linux distros on a bootable usb drive to recover files, and then test and reformat the drive. Linux doesn't care about permissions. You boot from the drive, run it live rather than install, and copy files to another drive.
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Thanks glasskuter
I have been successful to copy affected folder to another drive (none of the softwares like fastcopy / teracopy etc are able to copy files & folders)
but the issue is on inheritance and ownership which is bound with previous administrator / group.
So though on my pc I have full access controls of this folder still I am not given any rights to open /copy files.
 

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LesFerch said:
You could try Take ownership and get access from my Right-Click Tools. It uses the SetACL tool which is a little more robust than the usual tools.
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Good Morning LesFerch & Team
Thank you so much LesFerch .SetACL seems to be powerful platform. I tried right-Click Tools but after completing process still all data is encrypted only. I am badly stuck up and don't know what is exact technical issue.
 

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Guys in a twist to this case somehow I have identified actual issue with this folder that is encryption & not NTFS permissions as I assumed.
Affected folder is having EFS encryption. Unfortunately SSD on which original OS (windows 11) was present is formatted & new OS reinstalled
Due to Trim I don't think keys can be recovered now. But still I am going to give it a try.
Thanks a lot for all your help I learnt a lot of things.
 

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