Solved (Needs Confirmation) I think Microsoft just disabled bringing up CMD during OOBE phase of Windows installation


AsadAlrafidain

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I downloaded an updated ISO of Windows 11 from UUPDump ( 24H2 OS Build 26100.4482). during installation, when reached OOBE, I tried hitting shift+f10 to bring up cmd to circumvent mandatory Microsoft account like I always do, only to be suprised that CMD won't launch..... anybody else got/noticed this?
 

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I have no such a problem with ISO image downloaded from Microsoft so it must be the ISO image you downloaded you can use Rufus to create bootable USB.
 

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I have no such a problem with ISO image downloaded from Microsoft so it must be the ISO image you downloaded you can use Rufus to create bootable USB.
It might be because the ISO provided by Microsoft is old and doesn't contain the latest updates (and preventive measures from MS). and the ISO is already processed by Rufus to create bootable USB.

I'm still investigating this, it may turn out to be a bug....who knows.
 
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Either way, BypassNRO's reg value can be integrated into the offline image or updated by the unattended file. Rufus does the second option.

There's no real need for someone who prepares customized install images to do Shift-F10.
 

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You have to Press Shift+F10 at the Time and Currency page. (to do registry hack) And then later at the page Country or Region. (for bypass obbe command)
Circumventing the Microsoft Account requirement is not the issue here...CMD is useful in many ways during the installation process, and preventing users from using it during OOBE is a limitation to user freedom....you and me might not be heavily affected by this, but I'm sure if proven to be true, this will be a major annoyance to many.
 

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From time to time Shift-F10 may stop working in OOBE, but usually that's fixed in later updates.

I agree that MS would never remove it completely because legitimate IT admins would have no way to debug broken installs.
 

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From time to time Shift-F10 may stop working in OOBE, but usually that's fixed in later updates.
let's hope it's just a bug.
 

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, when reached OOBE, I tried hitting shift+f10 to bring up cmd to circumvent mandatory Microsoft account like I always do,
Circumventing the Microsoft Account requirement is not the issue here...
First post says you wanted to do shift+f10 to circumvent microsoft account.
Then now circumventing microsoft account is not an issue?

I am a bit lost. Anyway will be downloading a new ISO after dinner and test shift+f10 in a fresh vm to see if it is really the case.
 

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First post says you wanted to do shift+f10 to circumvent microsoft account.
Then now circumventing microsoft account is not an issue?
you've misinterpreted my intentions....my post was just for information sake, and to confirm that the issue is not singular to me.
 

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    2 x 8 HeperX Fury DDR4 2666 HZ
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    Nvidia GTX 1070 ti
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    165 HZ Gigabyte GS32QC
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    1440p
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    1TB NVME M.2 Samsung 990 Pro
Update: it seems the issue is specific to this version (24H2 OS Build 26100.4482)
tried a more recent version (24H2 OS Build 26100.4484) and the issue is gone.
 

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    Gigabyte Z170x Gaming 5
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    2 x 8 HeperX Fury DDR4 2666 HZ
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GTX 1070 ti
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    165 HZ Gigabyte GS32QC
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    1440p
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    1TB NVME M.2 Samsung 990 Pro
Earlier this year, one of the Insider builds broke Shift-F10 for a while, and a lot of panic ensued.

MS would never permanently break Shift-F10 because IT folks who use Autopilot or MDT would be very upset. Retail users only think OOBE is a candy-colored set of option screens, but a lot more Autopilot functionality is hidden behind the scenes. You can't debug a halfway broken AP process without being able to check the current state of Windows.
 

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Out of curiosity, are you doing this on a laptop where it might be necessary to press the Fn key? In other words, you may need to press Fn + Shift + F10.
 

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    Intel i7 11700K
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    ASUS Prime Z590-A MB
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    64GB (Waiting for warranty replacement of another 64GB for 128GB total)
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    HP Envy 32
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    1 x 1TB NVMe SSD
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    The five 8TB drives and three 512GB SSDs are part of a DrivePool using StableBit DrivePool software. The three SSDs are devoted purely to caching for the 8TB drives. All of the important data is stored in triplicate so that I can withstand simultaneous failure of 2 disks.

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    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
my post was just for information sake, and to confirm that the issue is not singular to me.
As long as utilman/sethc methods still work in the latest canary ...

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I just tried this with a 26100.4484 ISO image and I too get no command prompt by pressing SHIFT + F10. Note that earlier in setup SHIFT + F10 does work.

But as Garlin noted, you can simply use an answer file.

NOTE: If you still prefer to do a manual installation of windows, you can still do that. You can craft an answer that does as little or as much as you want. For example, you can create an answer file that does nothing more than bypass Win 11 requirements, or bypass Win 11 requirements and create a local user account.
 

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    Intel i7 11700K
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    ASUS Prime Z590-A MB
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    64GB (Waiting for warranty replacement of another 64GB for 128GB total)
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    HP Envy 32
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    2560 x 1440
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    1 x 1TB NVMe SSD
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    The five 8TB drives and three 512GB SSDs are part of a DrivePool using StableBit DrivePool software. The three SSDs are devoted purely to caching for the 8TB drives. All of the important data is stored in triplicate so that I can withstand simultaneous failure of 2 disks.

    Networking: 2.5Gbps Ethernet and WiFi 6e
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    Win11 Pro 23H2
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    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
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    Intel i7-1255U
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    16 GB
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    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
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    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
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    13.3-inch IPS Display
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    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
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    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
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    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
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    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
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    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
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    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
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    Edge
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    Windows Defender
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    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Out of curiosity, are you doing this on a laptop where it might be necessary to press the Fn key? In other words, you may need to press Fn + Shift + F10.
no... I'm doing this on a desktop PC, no extra buttons required
 

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    Windows 11 24H2 Version 10.0.26100.2605
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Core I5 6600
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z170x Gaming 5
    Memory
    2 x 8 HeperX Fury DDR4 2666 HZ
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GTX 1070 ti
    Monitor(s) Displays
    165 HZ Gigabyte GS32QC
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVME M.2 Samsung 990 Pro
update: I was wrong, the issue is not resolved on version (26100.4484).. I think I tried an older ISO by mistake and thought the issue is resolved....this is supposed to be a release preview chanel update, and (26100.4482) is supposed to be a retail channel update..... let's just hope it gets fixed soon.
 
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    Windows 11 24H2 Version 10.0.26100.2605
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Core I5 6600
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z170x Gaming 5
    Memory
    2 x 8 HeperX Fury DDR4 2666 HZ
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GTX 1070 ti
    Monitor(s) Displays
    165 HZ Gigabyte GS32QC
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVME M.2 Samsung 990 Pro
update: I was wrong, the issue is not resolved on version (26100.4484).. I think I tried an older ISO by mistake and thought the issue is resolved....this is supposed to be a release preview chanel update, and (26100.4482) is supposed to be a retail channel update..... let's just hope it gets fixed soon.
You have so many different options, so even if this change is permanent, it's no big deal.
 

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  • OS
    Win11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-built
    CPU
    Intel i7 11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A MB
    Memory
    64GB (Waiting for warranty replacement of another 64GB for 128GB total)
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    3 x 512GB 2.5" SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    5 x 8TB Seagate Barracuda HDD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case
    Cooling
    Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Home Computer Specifications, Configuration, and Usage Notes General Specifications ASUS Prime Z590-A motherboard, serial number M1M0KC222467ARP Intel Core i7-11700K CPU (11th Gen Rocket Lake / LGA 1200 Socket) 128GB Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4 3200 MHz DRAM (4 x 32GB) Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black CPU cooler Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Corsair LL-120 RGB Fans (Qty. 3)
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    The five 8TB drives and three 512GB SSDs are part of a DrivePool using StableBit DrivePool software. The three SSDs are devoted purely to caching for the 8TB drives. All of the important data is stored in triplicate so that I can withstand simultaneous failure of 2 disks.

    Networking: 2.5Gbps Ethernet and WiFi 6e
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor

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