Over 600 Domain computers won't get windows updates


pjudkins

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I desperately need help! We have 3200+/- total domain computers all on windows 11, mostly Enterprise and some on Pro, 600+ of them haven't done updates since either November of 2024 or August of 2023. They get an error when trying to do updates that says, "We couldn't connect to the update service". I have tried many things, verified all the Registry setting were correct, update troubleshooter fails, I can ping the update serves successfully from a CMD prompt, restarted services, deleted software distribution and other folders, I can manually push updates, but it won't auto pull them. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Windows Build/Version
Windows 11 Enterprise

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo
Is the installed image healthy? I ask because, coincidentally, I had a large number of machines quit updating around Aug/Sept 2023, and I had to DISM RestoreHealth and SFC them to get them going again.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 [rev. 4652]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC12WSHi7
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260P, 2100 MHz
    Motherboard
    NUC12WSBi7
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    built-in Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
They appear to be healthy. Other computers on the same Image version are doing updates successfully. I have also run all 3 DISM tools and SFC scan on a few test computers.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 [rev. 4652]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC12WSHi7
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260P, 2100 MHz
    Motherboard
    NUC12WSBi7
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    built-in Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
How do you get updates?
Directly from Microsoft?
WSUS?
MECM (SCCM)?

Do you control updates via GPO?

Also what build/version are these devices?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Linux Mint
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    System76 Lemur Pro
Updates auto download directly from Microsoft. We have one Group Policy in place to block feature updates for 1 year hence why we are on 23H2 instead of 24H2.

In the logs, I'm not real versed in what im looking for but it throws these entries at the end.


2025/07/08 10:51:14.1461899 5292 5644 Misc *FAILED* [80072F8F] WinHttp: SendRequestWithAuthRetry using proxy failed for <HTTPS://slscr.update.microsoft.com/SLS/{9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77}/x64/10.0.22631.3593/0?CH=989&L=en-US&P=&PT=0x30&WUA=1217.2403.25012.1&MK=LENOVO&MD=11CES01P00>
2025/07/08 10:51:14.1461959 5292 5644 Agent *FAILED* [80072F8F] wuauengcore.dll, C:\__w\1\s\src\Client\lib\DownloadFile\DownloadSession.cpp @776
2025/07/08 10:51:14.1462041 5292 5644 Misc *FAILED* [80072F8F] Library download error. Will retry. Retry Counter: 0
2025/07/08 10:51:14.5477660 5292 5644 Misc *FAILED* [80072F8F] WinHttp: SendRequestWithAuthRetry using proxy failed for <HTTPS://slscr.update.microsoft.com/SLS/{9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77}/x64/10.0.22631.3593/0?CH=989&L=en-US&P=&PT=0x30&WUA=1217.2403.25012.1&MK=LENOVO&MD=11CES01P00>
2025/07/08 10:51:14.5477711 5292 5644 Agent *FAILED* [80072F8F] wuauengcore.dll, C:\__w\1\s\src\Client\lib\DownloadFile\DownloadSession.cpp @776
2025/07/08 10:51:14.5477788 5292 5644 Misc *FAILED* [80072F8F] Library download error. Will retry. Retry Counter: 1
2025/07/08 10:51:14.8728477 5292 5644 Misc *FAILED* [80072F8F] WinHttp: SendRequestWithAuthRetry using proxy failed for <HTTPS://slscr.update.microsoft.com/SLS/{9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77}/x64/10.0.22631.3593/0?CH=989&L=en-US&P=&PT=0x30&WUA=1217.2403.25012.1&MK=LENOVO&MD=11CES01P00>
2025/07/08 10:51:14.8728526 5292 5644 Agent *FAILED* [80072F8F] wuauengcore.dll, C:\__w\1\s\src\Client\lib\DownloadFile\DownloadSession.cpp @776
2025/07/08 10:51:14.8728601 5292 5644 Misc *FAILED* [80072F8F] Library download error. Will retry. Retry Counter: 2
2025/07/08 10:51:15.2039509 5292 5644 Misc *FAILED* [80072F8F] WinHttp: SendRequestWithAuthRetry using proxy failed for <HTTPS://slscr.update.microsoft.com/SLS/{9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77}/x64/10.0.22631.3593/0?CH=989&L=en-US&P=&PT=0x30&WUA=1217.2403.25012.1&MK=LENOVO&MD=11CES01P00>
2025/07/08 10:51:15.2039562 5292 5644 Agent *FAILED* [80072F8F] wuauengcore.dll, C:\__w\1\s\src\Client\lib\DownloadFile\DownloadSession.cpp @776
2025/07/08 10:51:15.2039652 5292 5644 SLS Complete the request URL HTTPS://slscr.update.microsoft.com/SLS/{9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77}/x64/10.0.22631.3593/0?CH=989&L=en-US&P=&PT=0x30&WUA=1217.2403.25012.1&MK=LENOVO&MD=11CES01P00 with [80072F8F] and http status code[0] and send SLS events.
2025/07/08 10:51:15.2040536 5292 5644 SLS *FAILED* [80072F8F] GetDownloadedOnWeakSSLCert
2025/07/08 10:51:15.2045982 5292 5644 SLS *FAILED* [80072F8F] Method failed [CSLSClient::GetResponse:659]
2025/07/08 10:51:15.2046029 5292 5644 Agent *FAILED* [80072F8F] wuauengcore.dll, C:\__w\1\s\src\Client\lib\EndpointProviders\EndpointProviders.cpp @1831
2025/07/08 10:51:15.2046043 5292 5644 Agent *FAILED* [80072F8F] wuauengcore.dll, C:\__w\1\s\src\Client\lib\EndpointProviders\EndpointProviders.cpp @1376
2025/07/08 10:51:15.2046052 5292 5644 Agent *FAILED* [80072F8F] wuauengcore.dll, C:\__w\1\s\src\Client\lib\EndpointProviders\EndpointProviders.cpp @1387
2025/07/08 10:51:15.2046066 5292 5644 Agent *FAILED* [80072F8F] Method failed [CAgentServiceManager::DetectAndToggleServiceState:3018]
2025/07/08 10:51:15.2046078 5292 5644 Agent *FAILED* [80072F8F] SLS sync failed during service registration (cV: AnZ78FuShkGZXTrd.1.0.0.)
2025/07/08 10:51:15.2066225 5292 5644 Agent Total possible federated services: 1 (cV: AnZ78FuShkGZXTrd.1.0.0.)
2025/07/08 10:51:15.2066260 5292 5644 Agent Candidate federated service 9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77 (cV: AnZ78FuShkGZXTrd.1.0.0.)
2025/07/08 10:51:15.2066278 5292 5644 Agent Federated service 9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77 is not added due to an associated SLS registration failure (cV: AnZ78FuShkGZXTrd.1.0.0.)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo
Error 0x80072f8f means you have some kind of decoding error, which usually points to certificates being out of date. On a broken machine, do either of these commands show really old sync times, compared to a working machine?

Code:
certutil -verifyctl AuthRoot | findstr /i "lastsynctime"
certutil -verifyctl Disallowed | findstr /i "lastsynctime"

If so, you can probably export this registry key on a working machine, and import it on a broken machine. Restart the computer just for fun, and try WU again.

Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\SystemCertificates\AuthRoot
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 [rev. 4652]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC12WSHi7
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260P, 2100 MHz
    Motherboard
    NUC12WSBi7
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    built-in Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
certutil -verifyctl AuthRoot | findstr /i "lastsynctime"<br>

03/19/23

certutil -verifyctl Disallowed | findstr /i "lastsynctime"

8/24/23

Ironically 8/22/23 was the last successful update
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo
Yikes. Mine were updated today, for comparison.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 [rev. 4652]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC12WSHi7
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260P, 2100 MHz
    Motherboard
    NUC12WSBi7
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    built-in Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
Are those 600+ pc's in a other group in the firewall? Perhaps in that group some needed domains are blocked?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
I exported the registry key from my working computer onto 2 test machines, updates immediately started downloading. Now my question is why are those certificates not updating?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo
Are those 600+ pc's in a other group in the firewall? Perhaps in that group some needed domains are blocked?
No, all of our 3200 machines are on the exact same firewall settings.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo
Could be a GPO, do you have this registry key? This is the GPO to disable root cert updates
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\SystemCertificates\AuthRoot
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Linux Mint
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    System76 Lemur Pro
Could be a GPO, do you have this registry key? This is the GPO to disable root cert updates
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\SystemCertificates\AuthRoot
That key doesn't exist on this machine
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo
Can you nslookup and ping ctldl.windowsupdate.com?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 [rev. 4652]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC12WSHi7
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260P, 2100 MHz
    Motherboard
    NUC12WSBi7
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    built-in Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
Can you nslookup and ping ctldl.windowsupdate.com?
I attached a photo with the results of both, it does ping it successfully.
 

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo
Alrighty so you can get to the certs server on the Internets. Assuming the machines are healthy, I would say something is blocking their cert upgrade, but that doesn't make sense since it's not all of them. If it was all of them, I would throw something out like you have an internal cert server that's not updating or doesn't exist anymore, for example, but that's probably not it in your situation.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 [rev. 4652]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC12WSHi7
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260P, 2100 MHz
    Motherboard
    NUC12WSBi7
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    built-in Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
Alrighty so you can get to the certs server on the Internets. Assuming the machines are healthy, I would say something is blocking their cert upgrade, but that doesn't make sense since it's not all of them. If it was all of them, I would throw something out like you have an internal cert server that's not updating or doesn't exist anymore, for example, but that's probably not it in your situation.
The only common denominator I can find is it looks like all of these were upgraded from windows 10 to windows 11.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo
Can you try to manual trigger the cert update to see if that works?
terminal with adminrights.
certutil -pulse

afterwards check with (can take a few seconds after pulse before output shows:
certutil -verifyctl AuthRoot | findstr /i "lastsynctime"
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Can you try to manual trigger the cert update to see if that works?
terminal with adminrights.
certutil -pulse

afterwards check with (can take a few seconds after pulse before output shows:
certutil -verifyctl AuthRoot | findstr /i "lastsynctime"
I will try this in the morning on another one
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo

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