Passkeys - New Device


Caledon Ken

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I'm about to set up a new device on Windows 11. We created a new MS account to use for this purposes. Microsoft is enforcing the use of Passkeys on new accounts so old machine has the passkey to log in with.

My question, how do I initiate machine login (OOBE) when I don't have passkey on new device to sign in with? The new device does NOT have a web cam nor does the old machine.
 

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It's best to have a passkey setup on your phone and/or a physical passkey such as a yubikey. You can use those types of passkeys during the OOBE
 

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Thanks. This person doesn't own a yubikey, about $50 cdn.

How would I use passkey on phone to set up new computer. I can request QR code on phone but do not have a webcam to scan in.

I really don't think MS put an ounce of thought into how to set up a new machine with passkey on another device, potentially a device that may not even be bootable.
 

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Windows 11 Pro x64 Version V25H2i7-8700KG.Skill Trident Z 3200MHz F4-3200C16D-16GTZ (...Intel UHD Graphics 630
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Windows 11 Pro x64 Version V25H2
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PC/Desktop
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Custom
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i7-8700K
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Asus Maximus X Code - Z370
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G.Skill Trident Z 3200MHz F4-3200C16D-16GTZ (2) 32GB
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Intel UHD Graphics 630
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Integrated ROG SupremeFX
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Asus VP279 27", Samsung BX2431 24"
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1920 x 1080
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Samsung M.2 NVMe 960 EVO 500GB Boot,
Samsung 840 EVO 250GB (System Copy Drive),
Samsung 860 EVO 1TB (Primary Data Drive),
WD Black 500GB (Data Copy Drive)
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Corsair Hydro H150i, 360mm Rad & Five Corsair 140mm Pro ML Case Fans
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Malwarebytes Premium, SuperAntiSpyware Pro (Licensed)
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Microsoft LifeCam HD,
APC Back-UPS Pro 1500,
Macrium (Licensed),
Microsoft 365,
Wise Disk Cleaner,
Crystal Disk Info,
Screenpresso (Licensed),
AnyDesk (Licensed),
When the phone is the passkey you scan the QR that's displayed on the computer from the phone
 

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Besides passkeys, a person can set up the MS authenticator on their phone. When setting up a Microsoft account on the MS Authenticator, you can still enter a password, as well as the code (from another authenticator app or from the recovery phone/email). You can add the MS Authenticator (Send sign-in notification) on the old computer as a way to verify identity on the account (https://account.live.com/proofs/manage/additional). After that, you can approve logins using the MS Authenticator.

This is convenient (it will work for setting up a new Windows login linked to the MS account), but note that in the long run, if the account is hacked, the MS Authenticator may become a liability. If an account is hacked, one of the first things to do is to remove the authenticator as a way to log in.
 

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Thank you. So I created a new account and it asked for password, no mention of passkeys. I thought all new accounts were forced.

I thank you for the responses.

I'll be back.
 

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Windows 11 Pro x64 Version V25H2i7-8700KG.Skill Trident Z 3200MHz F4-3200C16D-16GTZ (...Intel UHD Graphics 630
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Windows 11 Pro x64 Version V25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Custom
CPU
i7-8700K
Motherboard
Asus Maximus X Code - Z370
Memory
G.Skill Trident Z 3200MHz F4-3200C16D-16GTZ (2) 32GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel UHD Graphics 630
Sound Card
Integrated ROG SupremeFX
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VP279 27", Samsung BX2431 24"
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Samsung M.2 NVMe 960 EVO 500GB Boot,
Samsung 840 EVO 250GB (System Copy Drive),
Samsung 860 EVO 1TB (Primary Data Drive),
WD Black 500GB (Data Copy Drive)
ICY Dock 5.25 2.5/3.5 Bays MB971SP-B
PSU
Corsair RM 650i +Gold
Case
Phanteks Enthroo Primo
Cooling
Corsair Hydro H150i, 360mm Rad & Five Corsair 140mm Pro ML Case Fans
Keyboard
das Keyboard MX Brown Mechanical Switches Model DASKMKPROSIL-3G7-r1.0
Mouse
Logitech MX Master 3 Wireless & Bluetooth
Internet Speed
500Mb +
Browser
Chrome (Pri), Firefox (Sec)
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Premium, SuperAntiSpyware Pro (Licensed)
Other Info
Microsoft LifeCam HD,
APC Back-UPS Pro 1500,
Macrium (Licensed),
Microsoft 365,
Wise Disk Cleaner,
Crystal Disk Info,
Screenpresso (Licensed),
AnyDesk (Licensed),
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