Problem across multiple AMD drivers


If the CPU temperature doesn't exceed 100 degrees Centigrade, then it might be the RAM. Download Memtest and check the RAM immediately after crashing.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
If the BSOD and live kernel events continue with new GPU then plan to swap test the motherboard to identify the malfunctioning hardware component.



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a1000005
141
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Code:
Event[13013]
  Log Name: System
  Source: Microsoft-Windows-WindowsUpdateClient
  Date: 2025-06-07T09:14:20.6480000Z
  Event ID: 20
  Task: Windows Update Agent
  Level: Error
  Opcode: Installation
  Keyword: Installation,Failure,
  User: S-1-5-18
  User Name: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
  Computer: DESKTOP-E86ICF1
  Description:
Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x800F0991: 2025-05 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 24H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5058411).

Code:
Event[12879]
  Log Name: System
  Source: Microsoft-Windows-WindowsUpdateClient
  Date: 2025-06-07T09:07:10.0010000Z
  Event ID: 20
  Task: Windows Update Agent
  Level: Error
  Opcode: Installation
  Keyword: Installation,Failure,
  User: S-1-5-18
  User Name: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
  Computer: DESKTOP-E86ICF1
  Description:
Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x800F0820: 2025-05 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 24H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5058411).

Code:
Event[9473]
  Log Name: System
  Source: Microsoft-Windows-WHEA-Logger
  Date: 2025-06-01T19:02:04.2580000Z
  Event ID: 18
  Task: N/A
  Level: Error
  Opcode: Info
  Keyword: N/A
  User: S-1-5-19
  User Name: NT AUTHORITY\LOCAL SERVICE
  Computer: DESKTOP-E86ICF1
  Description:
A fatal hardware error has occurred.

Reported by component: Processor Core
Error Source: Machine Check Exception
Error Type: Cache Hierarchy Error
Processor APIC ID: 13

The details view of this entry contains further information.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
If the CPU temperature doesn't exceed 100 degrees Centigrade, then it might be the RAM. Download Memtest and check the RAM immediately after crashing.
Already done, 4 passes, twice, no errors.

If the BSOD and live kernel events continue with new GPU then plan to swap test the motherboard to identify the malfunctioning hardware component.



109
139
a1000005
141
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124




Code:
Event[13013]
  Log Name: System
  Source: Microsoft-Windows-WindowsUpdateClient
  Date: 2025-06-07T09:14:20.6480000Z
  Event ID: 20
  Task: Windows Update Agent
  Level: Error
  Opcode: Installation
  Keyword: Installation,Failure,
  User: S-1-5-18
  User Name: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
  Computer: DESKTOP-E86ICF1
  Description:
Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x800F0991: 2025-05 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 24H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5058411).

Code:
Event[12879]
  Log Name: System
  Source: Microsoft-Windows-WindowsUpdateClient
  Date: 2025-06-07T09:07:10.0010000Z
  Event ID: 20
  Task: Windows Update Agent
  Level: Error
  Opcode: Installation
  Keyword: Installation,Failure,
  User: S-1-5-18
  User Name: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
  Computer: DESKTOP-E86ICF1
  Description:
Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x800F0820: 2025-05 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 24H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5058411).

Code:
Event[9473]
  Log Name: System
  Source: Microsoft-Windows-WHEA-Logger
  Date: 2025-06-01T19:02:04.2580000Z
  Event ID: 18
  Task: N/A
  Level: Error
  Opcode: Info
  Keyword: N/A
  User: S-1-5-19
  User Name: NT AUTHORITY\LOCAL SERVICE
  Computer: DESKTOP-E86ICF1
  Description:
A fatal hardware error has occurred.

Reported by component: Processor Core
Error Source: Machine Check Exception
Error Type: Cache Hierarchy Error
Processor APIC ID: 13

The details view of this entry contains further information.
I'll try putting it into my girlfriend's rig and test that way next saturday; lots of work to wrap up before vacation.


For now, removing faceit and undervolting the GPU seems to be crash free in the 3-4 hours I tested, but they come and go every day, so I'll see if it does it again tomorrow; but it happened during winter too, and before any components have had time to heat up, as TMax happens after like 10 mins of playing.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    w11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    5800x3d
    Motherboard
    B550 TUF Gaming plus
    Memory
    2x16GB Patriot Viper Steel 3200 (running at stock 2400)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Pulse 7900 XTX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x LG GN850
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    OS: MP510 1TB
    MX500 4TB
    SA400 120G
    WD1002F9YZ
    WD40EFZX
    PSU
    RM1000x 2024
    Case
    TUF GT502
    Cooling
    Arctic 240mm AIO
    Keyboard
    Ducky 2
    Mouse
    Razer DAV3
    Internet Speed
    2gbit
    Antivirus
    Defender & Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Audeze Maxwell
Already done, 4 passes, twice, no errors.


I'll try putting it into my girlfriend's rig and test that way next saturday; lots of work to wrap up before vacation.


For now, removing faceit and undervolting the GPU seems to be crash free in the 3-4 hours I tested, but they come and go every day, so I'll see if it does it again tomorrow; but it happened during winter too, and before any components have had time to heat up, as TMax happens after like 10 mins of playing.
In that case you might consider replacing the GPU cooler with a third-party more efficient cooler. You can also put a fan on the tower side cover (if possible) to blow cool air to the CPU and a fan at the back to remove heat and help cooling the inside of the tower faster.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
In that case you might consider replacing the GPU cooler with a third-party more efficient cooler. You can also put a fan on the tower side cover (if possible) to blow cool air to the CPU and a fan at the back to remove heat and help cooling the inside of the tower faster.
With the 7900 XTX the only aftermarket possibility is a waterblock sadly.

As for the case, I have 3 intake fans, and 3 exhaust, 2 of which are on the Arctic Liquid 240mm radiator.

Also, for the first time, Lost Ark crashed too, just now. Error 141; but for a change, what didn't happen is my desktop background didn't go fully black.

Rolled back to older drivers, maybe that helps with LOA.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    w11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    5800x3d
    Motherboard
    B550 TUF Gaming plus
    Memory
    2x16GB Patriot Viper Steel 3200 (running at stock 2400)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Pulse 7900 XTX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x LG GN850
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    OS: MP510 1TB
    MX500 4TB
    SA400 120G
    WD1002F9YZ
    WD40EFZX
    PSU
    RM1000x 2024
    Case
    TUF GT502
    Cooling
    Arctic 240mm AIO
    Keyboard
    Ducky 2
    Mouse
    Razer DAV3
    Internet Speed
    2gbit
    Antivirus
    Defender & Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Audeze Maxwell
Could the GPU fan has dust and increases temperature? Use an air spray or air blower and blow away as much dust as possible from the GPU cooler, the CPU cooler and the rest of the tower. The next step is to wipe the old probably dried thermal paste from both the GPU and CPU and apply fresh. If you are not confident to do it yourself you can ask a more experienced friend or professional.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Could the GPU fan has dust and increases temperature? Use an air spray or air blower and blow away as much dust as possible from the GPU cooler, the CPU cooler and the rest of the tower. The next step is to wipe the old probably dried thermal paste from both the GPU and CPU and apply fresh. If you are not confident to do it yourself you can ask a more experienced friend or professional.
Nah, regularly cleaned, just haven't repasted the GPU. But even with a 100% fan speed and GPU temps under 75°C, it crashes. CPU has had paste updated recently.

Generally, airflow isn't a problem. During winter times, temps are below 70°C usually.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    w11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    5800x3d
    Motherboard
    B550 TUF Gaming plus
    Memory
    2x16GB Patriot Viper Steel 3200 (running at stock 2400)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Pulse 7900 XTX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x LG GN850
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    OS: MP510 1TB
    MX500 4TB
    SA400 120G
    WD1002F9YZ
    WD40EFZX
    PSU
    RM1000x 2024
    Case
    TUF GT502
    Cooling
    Arctic 240mm AIO
    Keyboard
    Ducky 2
    Mouse
    Razer DAV3
    Internet Speed
    2gbit
    Antivirus
    Defender & Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Audeze Maxwell
If you have a spare disk, you can do a new Windows 11 installation, install only drivers and the specific game that crashes. Play the game on the new setup to see if it is some bug in the game or Windows. If the game doesn't crash, then I would search which applications run in the background and interfere while playing in the old system. If it crashes again, it is the game, I would visit developers site for patches or wait for new graphics drivers that fix the issue.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
If you have a spare disk, you can do a new Windows 11 installation, install only drivers and the specific game that crashes. Play the game on the new setup to see if it is some bug in the game or Windows. If the game doesn't crash, then I would search which applications run in the background and interfere while playing in the old system. If it crashes again, it is the game, I would visit developers site for patches or wait for new graphics drivers that fix the issue.
It's unlikely to be software as the PC worked fine with a temporary replacement GPU; RX 6800. However, it's also not the GPU itself since it passed RMA, so It's likely some interaction between the two? Not entirely sure, but it's on the todo list for the next weekend when I'm on vacation.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    w11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    5800x3d
    Motherboard
    B550 TUF Gaming plus
    Memory
    2x16GB Patriot Viper Steel 3200 (running at stock 2400)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Pulse 7900 XTX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x LG GN850
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    OS: MP510 1TB
    MX500 4TB
    SA400 120G
    WD1002F9YZ
    WD40EFZX
    PSU
    RM1000x 2024
    Case
    TUF GT502
    Cooling
    Arctic 240mm AIO
    Keyboard
    Ducky 2
    Mouse
    Razer DAV3
    Internet Speed
    2gbit
    Antivirus
    Defender & Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Audeze Maxwell

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