Questions re: Windows Defender on W11


Smithee

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With previous versions of Windows I've always used third-party security apps, but with Windows 11 I'd like to stick with Windows Defender. But right off the bat, I have some questions or minor concerns about the seemingly limited configuration options, especially for the automatic scan.

First, it looks like Defender automatically conducts a scan periodically. Is there any way to adjust or specify how often the automatic scan occurs? I'm also not sure how to adjust what drives or folders are included in the automatic scan, and I can't tell if the automatic scan is just a "quick scan" or a full scan.

I see "Scan options" settings to initiate a quick scan, full scan, custom scan, etc. but the interface design kind of visually suggests that these settings apply only to a user-initiated scan, not to the automatic scan. Will the automatic scan use these settings?
 
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Hi,

No I have never found a method to do as you wish; someone here may well do so and I just do the scan regularly from the icon in the tray and it's no problem its easy to do. I also have a coy of Trojan Remover from Simply Sup software and that you can program to do a very fast boot ONCE your desktop loaded and it is a good I've used 5 years or more but it doe not sit in your tray and always on though.
Another utility that makes life easy with Windows Defender and its continual bleating about virus it's found and what needs done is this as it makes it easy to read and automates it.

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I use WD and the free Malwarebytes and do manual full scans, and also the offline scans. I am aware that WD performs automatic scanning, but have no idea what the frequency is, or if there is any user adjustment.
Because this pc has secure boot with a password, the offline scans are interrupted by the need to put the password in before the scan starts.
 

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Hi,

No I have never found a method to do as you wish; someone here may well do so and I just do the scan regularly from the icon in the tray and it's no problem its easy to do. I also have a coy of Trojan Remover from Simply Sup software and that you can program to do a very fast boot ONCE your desktop loaded and it is a good I've used 5 years or more but it doe not sit in your tray and always on though.
Another utility that makes life easy with Windows Defender and its continual bleating about virus it's found and what needs done is this as it makes it easy to read and automates it.

Paul
"continual bleating"? Defender never finds anything on any of my systems and it's the only thing I use since Windows 10 hit the scene. In my opinion, it is all a home user needs. I do run a threat scan with the free version of Malwarebytes occasionally. That never finds anything either. Along with the built in firewall in it's default state, that's it as far as security goes.

The scheduled scan is a quick scan and can not be configured.
 

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I use WD and the free Malwarebytes and do manual full scans, and also the offline scans. I am aware that WD performs automatic scanning, but have no idea what the frequency is, or if there is any user adjustment.
Because this pc has secure boot with a password, the offline scans are interrupted by the need to put the password in before the scan starts.
I have never done anything but the quick scan with Defender and an occasional threat scan with Malwarebytes. I don't have passwords. My systems are all configured to log me in automatically at startup. There is a PIN set up but I very rarely have to use it.
 

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@Smithee I always have used 3rd party AV, myself I do not like defender as I had a problem with it years ago on a test machine. I always use Norton as I would not not want to have to use Defender and another program like Malwarebytes as well. Whatever you decide, get a good one and that should be all you need.
 

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I use Defender and Malwarebytes free and it has been enough for me. I run a manual quick scan from defender around once a week and a malware scan around 2 times a week. I haven't had a virus on my systems since windows 95. I did have a pup install around 5 years ago and was able to remove that. I don't find that defender "bleats continually" In fact the only notification I get is a once a week notification that windows Defender has checked my computer and found no threats. It aso informs me in that notice that it has scanned my computer 5 or 6 times, which has been daily when my laptop boots. Otherwise it just sits quietly in my tray. You could probably hunt online for directions on the innards of Defender but I just use all the defaults.
 

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That is why I use Norton, It scans automatically, gives full time protection and I can get a scan on demand if I need it.
I do not want to run a scan to see if I have been infected, I want a program that protects. Also I feel that if defender is so good why do I need Malwarebytes as well
 

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That is why I use Norton, It scans automatically, gives full time protection and I can get a scan on demand if I need it.
I do not want to run a scan to see if I have been infected, I want a program that protects. Also I feel that if defender is so good why do I need Malwarebytes as well
Lol you do have a point but like I said Defender does scan my computer at boot time every morning. I set it to notify me less a long time ago and cannot even remember the setting but it was in windows 10 and seemed to carry over to 11. I do my own scans for my own sanity. I did used to have Norton antivirus, firewall and password keeper years ago and liked it too.
 

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That is why I use Norton, It scans automatically, gives full time protection and I can get a scan on demand if I need it.
I do not want to run a scan to see if I have been infected, I want a program that protects. Also I feel that if defender is so good why do I need Malwarebytes as well
You don't "need" Malwarebytes. It's always good to have a backup scanner with a different set of definitions just in case no matter what your primary protection is. Defender protects full time just as well as Norton does. All the reporting agencies acknowledge that. Everybody would be well served to have the free Malwarebytes on hand but it is not necessary.

You also say you had a problem with Defender years ago. People have had problems with Norton too. Defender has come a long way in the past 5 years. No, it wasn't all that good in the beginning but it just keeps getting better and better and is now an excellent solution.
 

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@Dch48 I quite agree with you. After having a virus a few years ago through defender, it put me off. I have always had Norton ever since the old days of Systemworks on my best machine and it has never let me down, now I have it on all machines
 

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Defender has been in use on my PC's for the last 15 years and never had any problems. My install programs for utilities etc. are periodically stored on DVD, especially those that I used only once and then uninstalled. On a rare occasion I will pop one of those DVD's in to search for some old utility. The current Defender will popup warnings about some of these old programs (usually a PUP) that Icannot remeber if they were detected.

I had Malwarebytes installed for a few year, but it was annoying with its periodic update and subscription requires. Do not miss it.

Use whatever protection you are most comfortable with. I think there are still annual review of AV products where edge cases are thrown at each of them. If you practice safe computing then Defender should be fine.

Prior to COVID I never got the annual flu vaccine and cannot remember the last time I had the flu. Since then I have upped my protection. The similarity, maybe I could have been running without any AV products for years and been fine.
 

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I usually start a WD full scan when I'm about to leave the pc for a while, such as getting a meal ready and then just switch off the monitor. The same goes for Malwarebytes. I do tend to wonder why Malwarebytes scans only take 1/6th of the time that WD does.
Over the years, I have used Norton, MacAfee, Avast, AVG and Kasperski.
 

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I usually start a WD full scan when I'm about to leave the pc for a while, such as getting a meal ready and then just switch off the monitor. The same goes for Malwarebytes. I do tend to wonder why Malwarebytes scans only take 1/6th of the time that WD does.
Over the years, I have used Norton, MacAfee, Avast, AVG and Kasperski.
Different programs check more or less areas on your drive. Malwarebytes may not be checking areas where malware is never found. Some programs scan every byte on your drive which really is not necessary. Some also just scan the headers of the files and not the entire file. That's why it's good to have more than one scanner available. Having said that, Defender has always been slow in full scan mode. I'd like to think it's because it's being thorough.
 

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    AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS
    Motherboard
    Asus board (GA402RK)
    Memory
    16 GB Samsung DDR5-4800
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Radeon 680M and discrete Radeon RX 6800S with 8GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek with Dolby Atmos
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Laptop screen 14" WQXGA, IPS, 120hz refresh rate
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1600
    Hard Drives
    1TB PCIe Gen 4 SSD (WD Black SN850)
    PSU
    Battery power and Asus power brick/adapter. Also has USB-C charging
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    Laptop fans in vapor chamber
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    Touchpad and Omoton bluetooth mouse
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    Built in RGB backlit
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    Edge Chromium
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    Microsoft Defender

FrancoDT

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Well add me to the Windows Defender and Malwarebytes Free band wagon. Recently switched over from Bitdefender Free with Malwarebytes Free since they discontinued Bitdefender Free. Was very happy with Bitdefender by the way. Anyhow since switching to WD this month so far so good and no complaints (yet).
 

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    Windows 11
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    Alienware M17 R3
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    Intel Core i7-10750H (Comet Lake)
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    Alienware
    Memory
    32GB DDR4
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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 and Intel UHD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3281-CG
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    17"
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Micron 2300 NVMe 1TB
    PC SN530 NVMe WDC 512GB
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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    50mbps
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    Vivaldi and Firefox
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
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    Windows 11
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    Microsoft Surface Laptop 3
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    Intel Core i7-1065G7 (Ice Lake)
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    Microsoft Corp.
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    16GB DDR4
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    Intel Iris Plus Graphics
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    Omnisonic Speakers with Dolby Audio
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    13.5” PixelSense Touchscreen Display
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    2256x1504
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba Memory 512GB
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    50 mbps
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    Vivaldi and Firefox
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    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free

Wynona

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You don't "need" Malwarebytes. It's always good to have a backup scanner with a different set of definitions just in case no matter what your primary protection is. Defender protects full time just as well as Norton does. All the reporting agencies acknowledge that. Everybody would be well served to have the free Malwarebytes on hand but it is not necessary.

You also say you had a problem with Defender years ago. People have had problems with Norton too. Defender has come a long way in the past 5 years. No, it wasn't all that good in the beginning but it just keeps getting better and better and is now an excellent solution.
I agree that Windows Defender is adequate. And, yep, Defender let one through a few years ago and I no longer trusted it. However, Microsoft has worked diligently to make Windows as safe as it can be. Windows Defender is a huge part of that solution. And yes, you can knock Microsoft for lots of mistakes, but Defender isn't one of them.

Windows Defender is my sole security solution at the moment and I haven't had any problems with malware. And I know I don't "need" Malwarebytes, but I think I'm going to install the free version on all my computers if only for a bit of insurance. At least it will be there if I need it.
 

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    Windows 11 20000.613
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    PC/Desktop
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    HP Envy TE01-1xxx
    CPU
    ntel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
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    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1463MHz (21-21-21-47)
    Memory
    16384 MBytes
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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    Monitor 1 - Acer 27" Monitor 2 - Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006 (SSD)
    Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102
    Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device (SSD)
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    HP
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    HP
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    Standard
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    Logitech Wave K350
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    Logitech M705
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    100 mbps
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    Firefox
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    Windows Defender
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    That's all Folks!
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    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 (10th gen) 10700
    Motherboard
    Intel
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    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 27" & Samsung 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x
    Hard Drives
    SSD (512 GB)
    HDD (1 TB)
    Seagate
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    Intel i7 10th Generation
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    HP
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    HP/Intel?
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox 90.2
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    Headphone/Microphone Combo
    SuperSpeed USB Type-A (4 on front)
    HP 3-in-One Card Readr
    SuperSpeed USB Type-C
    DVD Writer

tinmar49

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I have noticed that when I check for updates (unneccessary, I know, but its a habit of mine), there are frequent security updates every day for WD. And the free version of Malwarebytes always checks for updates before running the manual scan.
 

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  • OS
    W11 pro beta
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Athlon 3000G
    Motherboard
    Asrock A320M-HDV r4.0
    Memory
    16Gb Crucial DDR4 2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    onboard cpu
    Sound Card
    onboard
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    AOC 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560-1440
    Hard Drives
    WD black SN750 M2 500Gb
    PSU
    500W Seasonic core 80+gold non modular
    Case
    Fractal Design Define R2
    Cooling
    front 2 x 120mm rear 100mm stock psu
    Internet Speed
    100/10
    Browser
    Firefox and edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security and free Malwarebytes
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    W11 pro 64
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
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    Ryzen 3200G
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    MSI B450M PRO-VDH
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    2 x 8Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 DDR4
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    onboard cpu
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    motherboard
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    LG
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    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Black M2 SN750 500Gb
    PSU
    Be Quiet 400 semi modular 80+gold
    Case
    Coolermaster Silencio 650
    Cooling
    140mm front, 120 rear Akasa Vegas Chroma AM
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    100/10
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    edge/Firefox
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    WD plus Malwarebytes free

Dch48

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I have noticed that when I check for updates (unneccessary, I know, but its a habit of mine), there are frequent security updates every day for WD. And the free version of Malwarebytes always checks for updates before running the manual scan.
Yes, Windows keeps Defender up to date through Windows Update. Malwarebytes Free behaves exactly like you said.
 

My Computers

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
    Motherboard
    MSI B550-A Pro
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 6600XT with 8GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Realtek integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Nitro 24" RG241Y 144hz refresh rate
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB NVMe SSD
    Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB SATA SSD
    Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD
    PSU
    LEPA B650 650 watt
    Case
    Enermax Coenus
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper T4 air
    Keyboard
    CM Storm Devastator
    Mouse
    E-Blue Cobra Jr.
    Internet Speed
    100mbs
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Optical Drives: LG DVD-RW and Pioneer BluRay/ DVD burner
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus ROG Zephyrus G14
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS
    Motherboard
    Asus board (GA402RK)
    Memory
    16 GB Samsung DDR5-4800
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Radeon 680M and discrete Radeon RX 6800S with 8GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek with Dolby Atmos
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Laptop screen 14" WQXGA, IPS, 120hz refresh rate
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1600
    Hard Drives
    1TB PCIe Gen 4 SSD (WD Black SN850)
    PSU
    Battery power and Asus power brick/adapter. Also has USB-C charging
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop fans in vapor chamber
    Mouse
    Touchpad and Omoton bluetooth mouse
    Keyboard
    Built in RGB backlit
    Internet Speed
    100mbps
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
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