Restore Comparisons using Macrium Easeus, Aoemei & Hasleo


IownAmoneyPit

Canadian Loonie X 2
Member
VIP
Local time
12:32 AM
Posts
94
Location
Alberta, Canada
Visit site
OS
Windows 11 Pro x 2
Used Macrium Home for years. What folks fail to realize is the HUGE problem with Macrium is the home license only supports minor updates. At some point, a Windows update broke Macrium functionality and the only way to fix it was to buy another home or pro license to get the update that fixed the issue. The won't even allow me to upgrade my older version for the reduced upgrade price. Customer support told me to pound sand. I can't do business with a company that leaves their customers high and dry.

Acronis True Image is even worse I remember when I was using Windows 8.0 and upgraded to Windows 8.1 the version of Acronis that I was using and had just recently purchased was not compatible with Windows 8.1 and I was supposed to buy the yearly upgrade.

The only Version on Macrium that doesn't support updates from 8.0 to 8.1 is the free version but is still supported through 2023. The Home version will be continually supported until EOL.

As @Bree has mentioned many times a previous\current Macrium version had\has a lifespan of approx 3+ years ? + 1 year extended support which is unheard of in the current subscription based enviroment.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x 2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    My own abomination, I call it the Money Pit Two
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 12900K @ 4.5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO
    Memory
    2 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB (4x16GB Total) DDR5-6200 CL36 Dual Channel Kit
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 ULTRA GAMING 10GB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    ROG SupremeFX ALC4082 with ESS® ES9018Q2C DAC for pinpoint positioning and dynamics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung JS7000 50" SUHD TV or Samsung 27" FHD 60Hz 8ms GTG VA LED Smart Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @ 150 DPI
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 870 EVO 250 GB SSD (Windows 11 Pro), 1 x Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD (Windows 11 Pro)
    PSU
    Corsair AX860 - 860W Modular Power Supply
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Full Tower Case - Black
    Cooling
    CORSAIR iCUE H150i RGB Elite 360mm Liquid CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech K830 Illuminated Living-Room Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Anywhere 2S Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    1000 Mbps
    Browser
    Latest Version Of Firefox & Microsoft Edge Chromium Stable
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
    Other Info
    LG Electronics 14x Sata Blu-ray Disk Rewriter - WH14NS4O
    6x2 HDMI Switcher (6 inputs, 2 outputs) so I can send the output of my Cable Box, Roku, or any my 4 computers to either my TV or Monitor separately or simultaneously.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home (Upgraded to Pro)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS TUF Gaming A17 17.3" Gaming Laptop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H with Radeon Graphics
    Motherboard
    ASUS FA706QM
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-3200 SO-DIMM
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3060 Laptop GPU, 6GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    DTS software AI noise-canceling technology Built-in array microphone 2-speaker system
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3-inch, FHD anti-glare display Refresh Rate:144Hz or Samsung JS7000 50" SUHD TV or Samsung 27" FHD 60Hz 8ms GTG VA LED Smart Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @ 150 DPI
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Series - 500GB PCIe Gen3. X4 NVMe 1.4 - M.2 Internal SSD
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Anywhere 2S Wireless Mouse
    Keyboard
    Backlit Chiclet Keyboard 1-Zone RGB Touchpad
    Internet Speed
    1000 Mbps
    Browser
    Latest Version Of Firefox & EDGE Chromium Stable
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
    Other Info
    6x2 HDMI Switcher (6 inputs, 2 outputs) so I can send the output of my Cable Box, Roku, or any my 4 computers to either my TV or Monitor separately or simultaneously.

Bree

Well-known member
Guru
VIP
Local time
6:32 AM
Posts
9,135
Location
S/E England, UK
Visit site
OS
Windows 11 Home
As @Bree has mentioned many times a previous\current Macrium version had\has a lifespan of approx 3+ years ? + 1 year extended support which is unheard of in the current subscription based enviroment.
Sometimes far longer than that. While Macrium only promise 1 year of extended support after the next version is released, Reflect v6 got its last update more than two years after v7 was released. This was an essential fix needed for Windows 10 version 1903 which broke all versions of Reflect until they were patched.

Macrium Reflect v7.0.1994 - 27th February 2017 - Initial Release

What's New 6.3.1865 - 8th May 2019
  • Support for Windows 10 1903
    This update adds support for Windows 10 1903 and prevents disk images failing with 'Error Code 9'.
    Please upgrade to this release for support with Windows 10.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

rfxcasey

New member
Local time
2:32 AM
Posts
2
Visit site
OS
Win 11
Your expectations are completely unrealistic

You only have an issue if you run V7 on a Perpetutal licence and pick up an issue that has been fixed in a later version.

Even the Version 7 was supported for one year following release of V8.

Do you seriously expect Paramount to support old versions forever free of charge?

There is no company in the world that will offer perpetual updates on old versions UNLESS you pay an annual maintenance cost.

Of course, you could move to a lease based system like Acronis but I bet you would whinge about that even more so.

There is an easy answer to your issues - pay up for new major versions (usually heavily discounted at 50%) like the rest of us within the 1 year grace period. It is hardly Paramount's fault you failed to splash the cash in a timely manner - it is 100% your fault.
Hum, that's funny because 99.9999 percent of all the other software I've purchased, even going back to the days of Windows 7, and even including Windows 7, still works on my machine like a dream. And no, I don't run Win 7 as my daily OS. Windows 7 didn't just magically stop working one day out of the blue. I expect what I paid for, working software. From your response you sound like a paid promoter of Marcum. Either way, I'll never give them another cent. It's the end user's choice and I've switch to an alternate imaging system.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11

galileo

Active member
Local time
2:32 AM
Posts
43
Visit site
OS
Windows 11 Insider
Sad to see that Drive Snapshot was not mentioned as an option. It has been rock solid for me for more than a decade. I have never had any issues with any partitions being mangled or failing to restore. Nor has the boot menu ever been an issue. Extremely lightweight and fast.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Insider
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 7459 AIO
    CPU
    i6700HQ
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    12.0 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 530 + NVIDIA GeForce 940M

cereberus

Well-known member
Pro User
VIP
Thread Starter
Local time
6:32 AM
Posts
3,845
Visit site
OS
Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
Hum, that's funny because 99.9999 percent of all the other software I've purchased, even going back to the days of Windows 7, and even including Windows 7, still works on my machine like a dream. And no, I don't run Win 7 as my daily OS. Windows 7 didn't just magically stop working one day out of the blue. I expect what I paid for, working software. From your response you sound like a paid promoter of Marcum. Either way, I'll never give them another cent. It's the end user's choice and I've switch to an alternate imaging system.
Get lost - I have no affiliation with Reflect whatsoever.

You are being totally ridiculous - Reflect is designed to back up Windows and older versions will continue to work ad infinitum BUT if MS make a change to Windows that means V7 no longer works, or you come across an old bug that has been fixed, Reflect V7 will not get updated as it is no longer supported. That is no different to 99.9999999999999999999% of software that gets updates - old versions are no longer supported.

Don't flipping blame Reflect for your lack of understanding and ridiculous expectations to get support for ever for a one-off payment!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0

Wisewiz

Speaks Ancient Geek
Power User
VIP
Local time
2:32 AM
Posts
1,355
Location
Ontario, Canada
Visit site
OS
11 Pro 22H2 (22621.1265)
I have been using MR for years and in some cases, since I have a file server on which I store the weekly backup images, with PCs that can not connect to it, I was copying the backup image to a portable HDD and copying it then to the file server. I did not know the image was being corrupted in the process as I got no error indications in the copy operations.
...
Since then, I have changed to using a portable SSD but still do verify operations after copying the images to the server -- and still find some that fail verification.
I never copy images. In several Macrium articles I've read, even they do not recommend copying images. If one absolutely HAS to copy, always run a verify on the image afterward.
I connect an external SSD to each of my machines about once a week, and copy my older internally stored (separate disk; separate drive) MR images to that. Then I can delete the older MR images from my internal, local storage disk, and delete any older MR images from my external SSD.
The final step is to verify the copied images on the external. That's quick and easy from within the MR GUI.
I have my backup profiles (xml files) set to auto verify when imaging is complete. That and the fact that I have verified the copied images on the external leaves me with half a dozen verified recent images on my local storage disk and half a dozen verified older (copied) images on my external. None of this is complicated, none of it is time-consuming, and all of it is absolutely reliable.
In over ten years of imaging and restoring with MR, I've never once had a failure.
Clipboard03.jpg
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Pro 22H2 (22621.1265)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
    CPU
    i5-8400 @ 2.80MHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 @ 2666MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG E2442
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x Samsung 870 EVO SSD
    Case
    Lenovo SFF
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
    Mouse
    LogiTech M510 wireless
    Internet Speed
    Fast (for satellite!)
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium & Defender (working together beautifully!)
  • Operating System
    11 Pro 22H2 1344
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkCentre M910S SFF
    CPU
    i7-7700 @ 3.60MHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 @ 2400MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG FULL HD (1920x1080@59Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x Samsung 870 EVO SSD
    Mouse
    LogiTech M510 wireless
    Keyboard
    Microsoft 600 wired
    Internet Speed
    Fast (for satellite!)
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium and MS Defender

ian50

Member
Local time
5:32 PM
Posts
5
Visit site
OS
Windows 11
I've used Macrium (V8.1 now), Aomei V6.5.1 (freeware for the Increment option) for quite some years and Hasleo over the last 4 months or so. All of them in Incremental mode. All of them have restored without hitch - and I do feel happier with all 3 programmes on tap. Backups every two weeks and because each programme does this with only a few clicks I don't find this routine onerous; set Backup running and then do something else. I regard Macrium is "best" in the sense that its' external USB boot has an option for repairing restores that themselves refuse to boot.

However, the point of this comment is that recently I found Hasleo V3.4 refusing to start, with some weird RAM conflict error notice. This occurred in both my Win7 and Win11 installations.

I emailed Hasleo support and received a helpful opening reply within 30 minutes. Following that, and given the time difference between my geographical location and Hasleo Central, with commendable speed I was emailed repaired executables to test for 1) diagnosis of the issue; 2) resolution. Three of these were supplied in succession. I supplied Event Notice logs and a .dmp file once.

The third "update" resolved the issue for both Win7 and Win11. Hasleo Backup and Restore function properly and reliably now, so Hasleo Support did what it says it will, at the very least in this instance, and quite quickly.

So what was the culprit ? Our best analysis - updates to my AV programmes. Win11 AVG Free, Win7 BitDefender Free.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 15s_du1xxx
    CPU
    Intel i5 10210U
    Motherboard
    85F1
    Memory
    16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080

ThrashZone

Minor Threat
Power User
VIP
Local time
1:32 AM
Posts
1,407
Visit site
OS
Linux-Mint-Cinnamon-20.2 Win-7-10-11Pro's
Acronis
No comment!
Hi,
What's up with this ?
Why are you excluding acronis to good/ to bad :lmao:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Linux-Mint-Cinnamon-20.2 Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    asus x3
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    To many to list
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro

cereberus

Well-known member
Pro User
VIP
Thread Starter
Local time
6:32 AM
Posts
3,845
Visit site
OS
Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
Hi,
What's up with this ?
Why are you excluding acronis to good/ to bad :lmao:
Not free unless you buy a hard drive plus I have had bad experiences with it :poop:.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0

kelper

Well-known member
Member
Local time
6:32 AM
Posts
522
Location
The Highlands of Scotland
Visit site
OS
Windows 11 22H2 Pro
Making sure an image can be restored correctly is just as important.
I agree, but what can you do if a restore makes your computer unbootable as happened to me? Do you restore to a Virtual machine?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Internet Speed
    13Mbps
    Browser
    Brave, Edge or Firefox
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere

cereberus

Well-known member
Pro User
VIP
Thread Starter
Local time
6:32 AM
Posts
3,845
Visit site
OS
Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
I agree, but what can you do if a restore makes your computer unbootable as happened to me? Do you restore to a Virtual machine?
Well, I always have a Macrium Reflect backup which has never let me down before I test alternatives.

I use the Macrium viboot facility as well to open an image file as a vm.

Restoring any backup from a different tool to a vm is always worth doing but at some time you need a leap of faith, making sure you have a backup from a tool you trust.

Of course, you need to make sure all valuable data and drivers of working installation is backed up in case (worst case scenario) you have to clean install. Never happened to me in years (last time I came close was with Windows 8 following a mobo failure but even then I had a (cough cough cough cough) Acronis backup and got there in the end.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0

kelper

Well-known member
Member
Local time
6:32 AM
Posts
522
Location
The Highlands of Scotland
Visit site
OS
Windows 11 22H2 Pro
When my EaseUs ToDo restore failed, it was onto a eMMC 'disk'. Maybe that was a factor. DiskGenius and Windows could not find any bad sectors.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Internet Speed
    13Mbps
    Browser
    Brave, Edge or Firefox
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere

cereberus

Well-known member
Pro User
VIP
Thread Starter
Local time
6:32 AM
Posts
3,845
Visit site
OS
Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
When my EaseUs ToDo restore failed, it was onto a eMMC 'disk'. Maybe that was a factor. DiskGenius and Windows could not find any bad sectors.
Never had issues with emmc drives.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0

Latest Support Threads

Top Bottom