Solved Should I start thinking about other than Macrium

RolandJS · Jul 7, 2021

I kept my MR7 installs and their license numbers. I think I can fully revert from MR8 to MR7 if need be.

Bree · Jul 7, 2021

RolandJS said:
I kept my MR7 installs and their license numbers. I think I can fully revert from MR8 to MR7 if need be.

Did you purchase a v8 upgrade for those v7 keys? If so, I think you'll find that your v7 keys will have been retired and can no longer be used to install v7. This is what I get if I try to use one of my upgraded v7 keys.

Corona · Jul 7, 2021

*slap* I coulda had a V8!

RolandJS · Jul 7, 2021

Half price, $80, would that be upgrade, correct? If so, you are right, no rollback to MR

Bree · Jul 7, 2021

RolandJS said:
Half price, $80, would that be upgrade, correct? If so, you are right, no rollback to MR

Yes, that's what I got too, a 50% discount to upgrade my v7 4-pack of keys to a v8 4-pack. All my v7 keys now return 'licence not found' if I try to use them. Happy with v8 though, so not a problem :wink:

I have more machines than licences, so run v7 Free on the rest. Seems to be fully compatible with v8, images created with one can be used in the other.

PerpetualCycle · Jul 8, 2021

I don't understand, why would anyone want to go back to 7 after upgrading to 8? v8 works great, just like v7 did.

glasskuter · Jul 8, 2021

I guess Macrium is just doing what Malwarebytes has been doing a long time. MWB gives you the pro version for 14 days and it then reverts to free version. Until then they nag you to buy it with popups. Yes, you can go into account section of MWB and deactivate the trial but most people don't know they can do that. But like MWB, Macrium is one of the most solid backup solutions out there. I've used a number of them and it's by far the best. It's well worth the price.

cereberus · Jul 8, 2021

jimbo45 said:
Hi folks
Over the years I've used Macrium a lot and can't think of a more reliable solution. For what I need V7 FREE version just does everything I want or need for Windows OS backup. -- I don't see the necessity of paying 60 EUR for V8 HOME for using features I don't really need.

There doesn't seem any V8 FREE version in the wings which brings into question how long will W7 be supported for.

If W7 is on the way out with only the paid version of W8 available or perhaps I should devise another backup strategy, I can always mount a Live Linux distro and backup windows partitions etc using DD or rsync. Macrium is an excellent product so I hope Paragon doesn't leave 100,000's of its users in the lurch.

Any thoughts --anyone. -- I'm not anti pro paid software but not for something that doesn't bring for me anything new to the table from what I've been using for years FREE.

Cheers
jimbo

Paramount always issue the free version around 90 days after release version. You can install paid version as a trial and after 30 days, it reverts to free version. It has been confirmed by the Reflect Team, it stays as V8 (web page erroneously said it revets to V7).

OldMike65 · Jul 8, 2021

RolandJS said:
Half price, $80, would that be upgrade, correct? If so, you are right, no rollback to MR

Actually I paid 73.80 for my 4 pack of MR 8 keys. That was with the 50% discount.

fireberd · Jul 8, 2021

I have both one paid V7 and several free V7's installed. We all like free software but if no one ever buys the software it eventually will either be discontinued or the free versions will no longer be available.

V7 does what I need as I only do full disc (all partition) disc images. But at some point I'll upgrade my paid version to a paid V8.

Quexos · Jul 8, 2021

Corona said:
*slap* I coulda had a V8!

Good one...but you just "dated" yourself. Doh! Now I did too, unless those old commercials have made a comeback. I wouldn't know since I have not seen a TV in 25+ years. Way OT, but V8 with some vodka, salt and hot sauce makes a pretty good Bloody Mary.

scrapheap · Jul 8, 2021

i'm using aomei, but have tested mackerel , both seems to be working ok

scrapheap · Jul 8, 2021

Quexos said:
Good one...but you just "dated" yourself. Doh! Now I did too, unless those old commercials have made a comeback. I wouldn't know since I have not seen a TV in 25+ years. Way OT, but V8 with some vodka, salt and hot sauce makes a pretty good Bloody Mary.

Must use a fruit-blender for that recepe,, cheers

OldMike65 · Jul 8, 2021

glasskuter said:
I guess Macrium is just doing what Malwarebytes has been doing a long time. MWB gives you the pro version for 14 days and it then reverts to free version. Until then they nag you to buy it with popups. Yes, you can go into account section of MWB and deactivate the trial but most people don't know they can do that. But like MWB, Macrium is one of the most solid backup solutions out there. I've used a number of them and it's by far the best. It's well worth the price.

I agree with your statement 110% ...there is nothing better

jimbo45 · Jul 8, 2021

Hi there

Macrium does work brilliantly as most people on these forums will readily testify to.

The argument about Free Software doesn't really apply since if the Pro features bring extra wanted features to the table then people will buy it. Having a decent Free product also allows a lot more people to test the basic functionality so the pro version can be rolled out as a solid stable release. There's nothing wrong in using the free version if the features it supplies are the only thing you need especially to users who don't use Windows every day and just need to take the occasional Windows OS system image.

For example I see for myself no interest in differential / incremental backups, VIboot, encryption, data backup etc so there's no reason for me to go for the paid version -- others really do find these features useful and the paid version is 100% worth it for them. Data backup, Data recovery , Disk cloning etc I use Linux for. Macrium Free I simply use for Windows imaging. cloning, and restoring while on a Windows Host system.

Lots of paid for products are developed on the back of Free software - and the developers haven't gone bust.

What I hate though are hobbled things - like video converters etc which only allow you to convert 2 mins of video, reduced quality and with watermarks all over the place. A Free version should have the basic functionality and allow full use of those functions like Macrium Free V7 (and I gather from the V8 version too).

Cheers
jimbo

scrapheap · Jul 8, 2021

"What I hate though are hobbled things - like video converters etc which only allow you to convert 2 mins of video, reduced quality and with watermarks all over the place. A Free version should have the basic functionality and allow full use of those functions like Macrium Free V7 (and I gather from the V8 version too)."

Have been running around with 3 party tools and a good toilet after that with commercials , go figure.
Does "vidcompact" work, using that in a droid

johnlgalt · Jul 8, 2021

Macrium Reflect Devs typically don't cripple their free versions much, and in fact, they offer a lot more features than other backup solutions in their free version.

I'm confident that I have 0 need to move to another product for normal backups.

But, just in case, I always keep an updated CloneZIlla .ISO handy for a 'backup' backup.

Bree · Jul 8, 2021

jimbo45 said:
For example I see for myself no interest in ~~differential~~ / incremental backups, ~~VIboot~~, encryption, data backup etc so there's no reason for me to go for the paid version

Fixed that for you, Differentials and viBoot are both included in the Free version.

scrapheap · Jul 8, 2021

I have been using Macrium, but somewhere in the line it did go kaputskij .
"Today I'm selling aomei "

johnlgalt · Jul 8, 2021

johnlgalt said:
Macrium Reflect Devs typically don't cripple their free versions much, and in fact, they offer a lot more features than other backup solutions in their free version.

I'm confident that I have 0 need to move to another product for normal backups.

But, just in case, I always keep an updated CloneZIlla .ISO handy for a 'backup' backup.

Bree said:
Fixed that for you, Differentials and viBoot are both included in the Free version.

^^^^^^^^^^^ This. Both of those are offered in the free version, and it's really, really hard to find another good FREE backup solution that that has a fully-fleshed out Differential backup plan available, not to mention the ViBoot feature.