Slooowww Boot - All Typical Fixes Done


Thanks Steve...
I've got a picture as my desktop. Interesting thought though!
Thanks again.
This initially was just a curiosity, and I think I've used up enough of the good ideas here.
I am just moving on!
 

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  • OS
    Win11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 8950
    CPU
    i7 12th Gen
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia RTX 3060TI
@mck
Thanks for that insight. Your process does display the desktop with icons quickly after entering the PIN. Thanks for that.

The bigger issue is the 20-25 seconds of black screen prior to the Win11 splash screen. I can get that splash to display right away with Fast Startup enabled, but that causes the keyboard drivers not to load.

Overall, I think I'll just roll with this delay.
I'll just meditate in that time. :)
The 20-25 seconds of black screen (usually with the UEFI splash screen showing for part of that time) is normal. It takes my MSI motherboard running an Intel core ultra 7 CPU about 32 seconds to display its Win11 splash screen. Takes my HP i3 PC about 20-25 seconds to display its Win11 splash screen. (Note that I do not have fast startup enabled in UEFI or in Win11 on both PCs. I have SSD boot drives in both.)
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 7, 265K
    Motherboard
    MSI Pro Z890-P WiFi
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Using integrated graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG
    Screen Resolution
    4K
    Hard Drives
    512 GB SSD, 2TB M.2 SSD and 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Modular 550 watt Focus Plus
    Case
    Corsair 4000D
    Cooling
    ThermalRight Phantom Sprit
The 20-25 seconds of black screen (usually with the UEFI splash screen showing for part of that time) is normal. It takes my MSI motherboard running an Intel core ultra 7 CPU about 32 seconds to display its Win11 splash screen. Takes my HP i3 PC about 20-25 seconds to display its Win11 splash screen. (Note that I do not have fast startup enabled in UEFI or in Win11 on both PCs. I have SSD boot drives in both.)

Thanks for your perspective!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 8950
    CPU
    i7 12th Gen
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia RTX 3060TI
Did you disable hibernate? in any case try this cmd: powercfg.exe /hibernate on
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-made
    CPU
    intel i7-2600
    Motherboard
    Asus P8Z68MPRO
    Memory
    32 GB TIMETEC
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 3600
    Monitor(s) Displays
    EIZO CS240
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    Main - Samsung 870EVO
    PSU
    SilentStorm Cool Zero 750W
    Other Info
    Mostly used for photo retouching software, some video slideshows.
  • Operating System
    W11, always updated with latest builds
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    PC/Desktop
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    Self built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 9900X
    Motherboard
    ASUS TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32GB Kit DDR5-6000 CL30 (F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR)
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS Dual GeForce RTX™ 3060 V2 OC Edition 12GB GDDR6- From System 1
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Eizo CS240, Calibrated with Datacolr SpyderX
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    Crucial T705 SSD 1TB PCIe Gen5 NVMe M.2- SO+Archive
    Lexar EQ790 1TB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe 1.4- LR& PS Workspace
    PHIXERO SSD P5000-512GB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4- Backups
    Seagate ST8000DM04- Photo Archive, SATA HD - From System 1
    Western Digital WD2002FAEX- Generic archive, SATA HD - From System 1
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    Be Quiet 850W Pure Power 12M per Pc ATX
    Case
    Phanteks XT Pro
    Cooling
    Be quiet Pure loop 2 360mm
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Keyboard
    Logitech
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    D/L-700/800 Mbps; U/L 250/300 Mbps WiFi 7 from motherboard
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Avast
    Other Info
    Mostly used for photo retouching software, some video slideshows.
Uh.
HP Spectre x360 from 2017
I don't think 30 sec from boot logo to win login is all that bad.
Remember, you don't have an NVMe and DDR5 in there.
I had difficulty finding the specs on it but it looked like a 256GB SSD.
SO I would update that SSD to a faster one, and a bigger one if needed. Sammy has some very fast ones.
This will take a bit of googling to find the specs on the SSD you have vs faster ones. Non Sammy (samsung) ones are cheaper, but I personally avoid them.

I assume it does not have an NVMe port in it so that would be out, but that is what you really wish it had, with a 4x4 socket. Nope. Onward!

Next you would want to look at memory - both more and faster memory will help a bit, but not night and day change. A bit.

After having upgraded both of those, I would have you rt click on taskbar and choose Task Manager, and highlight the CPU column, RIGHT after the desktop first appears and see if there is anything obvious there. Also, in Task Manager, click on startup apps and see if anything obvious could be disabled.

I would have other suggestions after that, but I think the biggest will be if you can get a faster SSD. Win has to do an awful lot of stuff to get to the logon screen. A faster drive will help a chunk.
 

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  • OS
    win 11Pro 24H2 current
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    I9-13900k
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-E Gam wifi-6E, latest AMI BIOS 2801
    Memory
    G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32GB Kit DDR5 6000. 6000.
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX™ 3060 Ti VISION OC 8G (rev. 2.0)
    Sound Card
    "Realtek USB Audio", ROG SupremeFX 7.1 Surround Sound High Definition Audio CODEC ALC4080, Bose Computer Music Monitor/ Desktop Computer Speakers
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell S3221QS
    Screen Resolution
    4K but I usually display at 1K
    Hard Drives
    Sam 980 Pro 1T M.2, 990Pro, WD 570, others(all NVMe)
    PSU
    Corsair RM750e fully modular
    Case
    CoolerMaster TD500 mesh white case
    Cooling
    CPU:Thermalright aio A-E-360 V4 TOP(Thermalright anti-bend plate), CASE:3 front fans IN, 1 back fan OUT.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K55 Core RGB (install iCue, install all firmware, uninstall iCue)
    Mouse
    Logitech M510. - (retired the Corsair Harpoon RGB wireless - double clicks)
    Internet Speed
    220Mbs Starry; I226-V NIC
    Browser
    Firefox current, Tab center Reborn, etc etc etc.
    Antivirus
    BitDefender AV Free
    Other Info
    WuMgr, StartAllBack, Terabyte Image for Win, Revo Uninstaller Pro Portable.
    Time Spy Extreme 6239, VRMark Orange Room 16430, etc.
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  • Operating System
    win 10, Mint
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo P15s
    CPU
    i7-10510U 1.8-4.9GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel SoC
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Quadro P520 2GB DDR5 supports 4K external via HDMI or USB-C
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3287 HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1K
    Hard Drives
    NVMe various
I've got an HP Spectre x360 from 2017 that is healthy in all other respects. I upgraded "manually" to Win11 years back and just recently upgraded to 24H2. The laptop has TPM 2.0, but has a proc that is just outside of MS specs. Still, Win11 runs reliably and rather snappy. The problem is that on boot, after the HP logo/BIOS boot, Windows takes about 30 seconds to show the logon page. Then, it can take a while to open to the desktop. It has never been anywhere near this slow in the years I've owned this machine.

I know that I can go back to the previous version of Win11, but I'd like to try to work this out if I can. I've done all of the typical "fixes" from disabling FastBoot, to limiting startup programs and more - all the stuff that routine YouTube videos cover. With FastBoot enabled, it's faster for sure, but my keyboard drivers don't seem to be loading and I have no access to the keyboard.

So, are there any fixes, hacks, etc., that you would recommend?
TIA!
-bjk

Please accept the boot trace offer from Zinou in post #3.
He is an expert in WPR interpretation.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
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