Task Manager freezes / crashes after removing KB5101650


MysteriousBox

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In relation to my other post about uninstalling KB5101650 to resolve a different issue, when KB5101650 is fully uninstalled the task manager crashes when trying to interact with it, eg. close it or click on apps.

Faulting application name: taskmgr.exe, version: 10.0.26100.5074, time stamp: 0x3d7b9a49
Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 10.0.26100.5074, time stamp: 0x0e967e89
Exception code: 0xc0000374
Fault offset: 0x000000000011a3b5
Faulting process id: 0x868
Faulting application start time: 0x1DD1489794FBC4B
Faulting application path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe
Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
Report Id:
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
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I really don't understand what is going on here :(
 

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MysteriousBox said:
I really don't understand what is going on here :(
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In Firefox under Tools > Settings > Tab and Browsing > Performance ...there is a Hardware Acceleration ON/OFF

In Windows Settings, there's a setting for Hardware Acceleration ON/OFF ...as well.

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You need to play around with these, and see what combo works the best.
For my system, I get best results with both set to ON.

But some systems are different.
 

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Ghot said:
In Firefox under Tools > Settings > Tab and Browsing > Performance ...there is a Hardware Acceleration ON/OFF

In Windows Settings, there's a setting for Hardware Acceleration ON/OFF ...as well.

View attachment 176796


You need to play around with these, and see what combo works the best.
For my system, I get best results with both set to ON.

But some systems are different.
Click to expand...

I'm not sure how this is going to fix a faulty task manager after uninstalling KB5101650. Uninstalling an update shouldn't break task manager...
 

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MysteriousBox said:
I'm not sure how this is going to fix a faulty task manager after uninstalling KB5101650. Uninstalling an update shouldn't break task manager...
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Those things I mentioned were to fix things AFTER the update.
 

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The only suggestions I've seen are the usual general Windows repairs. E.g.
www.kapilarya.com

Fix Task manager keeps crashing in Windows 11

Here, we are going to take you through the step-by-step solutions to resolve the issue of Task Manager crashing in Windows 11.
www.kapilarya.com www.kapilarya.com

- including an in-place upgrade repair install (assuming the same problem occurs in a new user account which you can delete after checking).
 

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dalchina said:
The only suggestions I've seen are the usual general Windows repairs. E.g.
www.kapilarya.com

Fix Task manager keeps crashing in Windows 11

Here, we are going to take you through the step-by-step solutions to resolve the issue of Task Manager crashing in Windows 11.
www.kapilarya.com www.kapilarya.com

- including an in-place upgrade repair install (assuming the same problem occurs in a new user account which you can delete after checking).
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This issue prompted me to do exactly that, I did an in place repair / upgrade to 25H2 with the same issue in the other thread persisting since it does not allow you to uninstall KB5101650 with the in place upgrade. I even did a full reinstallation of Windows 25H2 after using Secure Erase on the drive, and the issue with KB5101650 causing stutter / freezing on browsers persisted. Uninstalling KB5101650 on this session also continued to cause Task Manager crashes.

I have fully reinstalled Windows 25H2 once again, but used Group Policy to block automatic download of updates at this time.
Task Manager is functioning normally on build 26200.6584.
 

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No specs for your PC. Some issues with this update for some Dell devices

www.elevenforum.com

KB5101650 Windows 11 Cumulative Update build 26100.8875 (24H2) and 26200.8875 (25H2) - July 14

UPDATE 7/28: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/kb5101684-windows-11-cumulative-update-preview-build-26100-8973-24h2-and-26200-8973-25h2-july-28.48397/ Microsoft Support: This cumulative update for Windows 11, version 25H2 and 24H2 (KB5101650) includes the latest security fixes and improvements...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com
 

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dalchina said:
No specs for your PC. Some issues with this update for some Dell devices

www.elevenforum.com

KB5101650 Windows 11 Cumulative Update build 26100.8875 (24H2) and 26200.8875 (25H2) - July 14

UPDATE 7/28: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/kb5101684-windows-11-cumulative-update-preview-build-26100-8973-24h2-and-26200-8973-25h2-july-28.48397/ Microsoft Support: This cumulative update for Windows 11, version 25H2 and 24H2 (KB5101650) includes the latest security fixes and improvements...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com
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Home built PC, no dell here.
 

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Just updated my Win 11 Lenovo with the July 14 updates including this one.. 86200.8875. No issues apparent (Firefox, task manager).
I'm not going to try uninstalling the update though, sorry.
 

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