Visual refresh of Office apps for Windows 10 and Windows 11

atinfo · Jul 11, 2021

unifex said:
And this is how I type most texts

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Here the menu area is not dark, but being open source, this is unlikely to change. However, the possibility to type white on black has existed forever. Why is Microsoft only beginning to implement it now, is beyond my understanding. This is by far more important than how the window corners are designed or how the ribbon looks like.

You can use a trick!
Select "Black" (Word>Account>Office Theme). Go to "Design" menu and in "Page Color" section select "Black" color.

unifex · Jul 14, 2021

atinfo said:
You can use a trick!
Select "Black" (Word>Account>Office Theme). Go to "Design" menu and in "Page Color" section select "Black" color.

Of course you can do that. But that's not the "dark mode": if you print the document created this way, the background would still be black. The idea of the "dark mode" is that on your screen the background is dark, but on paper (when you print it) it's white.

johnlgalt · Jul 14, 2021

atinfo said:
You are insider and your build number is 2108 (as MS said new refresh UI is released on this build number). Do you have it?! Is there any thing like "Simplified Ribbon" option?!

Pretty sure I said exactly that in my post. But thanks for pointing out what was in my screenshots.

atinfo · Jul 14, 2021

unifex said:
Of course you can do that. But that's not the "dark mode": if you print the document created this way, the background would still be black. The idea of the "dark mode" is that on your screen the background is dark, but on paper (when you print it) it's white.

I said "Trick"! Not as a permanent solution!

You can disable the "BG's color printing" option though! Go to "Word Options/Display" and uncheck "Print background colors and images" option (SS below).

It would work for you as a trick to bypass current DM (=dark mode, with white BG) till you get official release of current insider version 2108 (with whole DM mode, black or dark BG).

atinfo · Jul 14, 2021

johnlgalt said:
Pretty sure I said exactly that in my post. But thanks for pointing out what was in my screenshots.

I didn't understand! Your SS shows ribbon as current "2019" and "2021 preview" versions (with no "Simplified Ribbon" mode). Do you have that in your current O365 insider 2108 version?! I mean "Simplified Ribbon", neither dark mode nor "New Refresh UI" (IMO, New Ruined UI).

johnlgalt · Jul 14, 2021

It's weird.

I have it in Outlook; I have just tabs, and each tab I click on shows a single row of items, rather than the full ribbon:

But in Word, Excel, Access, and PowerPoint, there is no simplified ribbon. Collapsing the ribbon to tabs only shows tabs only, but clicking on any tab shows the full ribbon not the simplified one.

Which makes sense, everything I'm seeing for anything other than Outlook is for the corresponding web versions only.

atinfo · Jul 14, 2021

Got it!

It's normal! That's the old one (enabled only for WEB versions and enabled for desktop version just for Outlook!). it's the same since 2019!

I am seeing MS Office stuff's screenshots (and official videos from MS about Office updates) they are using "Simplified Ribbon" on O365 "Desktop" version since 2018, but they just enabled and released official version of it (SR) only for Outlook! Cut it or release it! It's nonsense to be about 3 years in trial (or Beta or Alpha) mode! It's not Google, It's Microsoft!!

I have O365 too but nothing here! (not insider, stable version and latest update). I have installed "2021 preview for Enterprises" but nothing here too!

johnlgalt · Jul 14, 2021

Not gonna lie - the Outlook simplified is pretty friggin' nice. Wouldn't mind one in the other apps. Especially if it is customizable (which the regular ribbon is pretty customizable, so I don't see why the simplified one would not be).

atinfo · Jul 14, 2021

My apology, I think there is misinterpretation! I am not saying you are lying!

I know it's (SR=Simplified Ribbon) released (officially) just for Outlook (in Desktop version not the Web version). As I know there is an option to get back classic ribbon (in Outlook), just by right click on ribbon and select "Classic Ribbon" (I don't use Outlook, just installed it one year ago to see and try SR on it).

IMO the SR was one of the most practical update for MS Office since version 2007, at least for me (I never used 2007, just a jump from 2003 to 2010).

They killed it!!!

walaragones · Aug 4, 2021

Bad update, removed various options to edit an image in word. unproductive.

johnlgalt · Aug 5, 2021

atinfo said:
My apology, I think there is misinterpretation! I am not saying you are lying!

I know it's (SR=Simplified Ribbon) released (officially) just for Outlook (in Desktop version not the Web version). As I know there is an option to get back classic ribbon (in Outlook), just by right click on ribbon and select "Classic Ribbon" (I don't use Outlook, just installed it one year ago to see and try SR on it).

IMO the SR was one of the most practical update for MS Office since version 2007, at least for me (I never used 2007, just a jump from 2003 to 2010).

They killed it!!!

I never saw it in anything but Outlook, to be honest.

Also, Not gonna lie is a cliche phrase, just like To be honest - I was neither implying that I was lying before, nor that I thought you thought I was lying lol.

walaragones · Aug 7, 2021

PD, in the new update, returned the options of the edit image. I am happy.

boromyr · Sep 30, 2021

For me the new skin only works on Excel, on Word or PowerPoint everything remains exactly as before. I installed Office with Office Tool Plus, 64bit, and tried ProPlus2021 Retail, Volume and LTSC, all versions 14.3XX and later.

Is there any way to activate the new skins manually, or from the registry?

Deleted member 3249 · Oct 2, 2021

boromy said:
For me the new skin only works on Excel, on Word or PowerPoint everything remains exactly as before. I installed Office with Office Tool Plus, 64bit, and tried ProPlus2021 Retail, Volume and LTSC, all versions 14.3XX and later.

Is there any way to activate the new skins manually, or from the registry?

Well for insiders, it will be phased and when stable comes, everyone gets it. Make sure you have the what's new turned on

atinfo · Jan 5, 2022

boromy said:
For me the new skin only works on Excel, on Word or PowerPoint everything remains exactly as before. I installed Office with Office Tool Plus, 64bit, and tried ProPlus2021 Retail, Volume and LTSC, all versions 14.3XX and later.

Can you upload new SS from Word, Excel with their ribbon (and their version number)?

SM03 · Jul 27, 2022

Hi, am looking for the office MICA effect, since I am not an Insider, I still haven't gotten that, is there any way to implement MICA in office 2021, by adding any permanent registry solution?

jimbo45 · Jul 27, 2022

Hi there
I think EXCEL cells can be switched so you can have black cells with white texts but I haven't seen anyway to do that in Word. --See next post --Word / Outlook fixed.
I'll experiment around with a few VM's with different office builds and themes to see if anything works.

Outlook works too with black background and white text BTW in dark themes.

Note you have to enable dark mode in Windows as well as just the dark mode theme in Office itself. Should be obvious but it's easy to forget those "little things".

Cheers
jimbo

jimbo45 · Jul 27, 2022

Hi folks
Word, Outlook does indeed do black with white text. Excel has menus inblack with white text but workheets still white cells -- I'm checking a way to see if the cells can be changed - probably something like Cell background colour.

Anyway you have to enable the dark theme in Windows OS itself and then enable black in the Office theme (in account ->properties).

Here's word

Excel sort of works but I can't get grid (cell) lines in white and it seems you have to do it for each workbook. Click on the corner of the worksheet to the left of cell A1.

I'm om Office Pro Plus LTSC 2021.

If anybody can point the right way -- thanks.

Cheers
jimbo

PurSpyk!! · Jul 27, 2022

Excel would need to support the page to be black, currently this is not an option. Odd how they don't implement the same theming across all the office apps. Always seems so incomplete, much like Windows, some innovative ideas, and then neglected. Outlook still has animations from Office XP days, reported this many moons ago, MS decides to ignore.