WATCH OUT FOR RAM PRICES!


I read it was something like $6 billion. Ostensibly to keep some sort of manufacturing in the US
 

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  • At a glance

    Win7,Win11i7-97002x16gb 3600mhz
    OS
    Win7,Win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-9700
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x16gb 3600mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • At a glance

    win7,win11i5-84002x8gb 3200
    Operating System
    win7,win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
ssd prices have gone through the roof.

Though I notice mx500 2tb was £135.11 on Amazon last night, much less than Samsung etc.

I clicked the link last night and confirmed.

amazon-135.webp

I have looked just now and it is £279. They must have sold however many they had at the 135 price. You have to grab it at a reasonable price when you see it.

A seller on ebay had two lots of 40 then another lot of 20 sold very fast for less than £90 a couple of weeks ago.

early bird gets the worm
 
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  • At a glance

    Win7,Win11i7-97002x16gb 3600mhz
    OS
    Win7,Win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-9700
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x16gb 3600mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • At a glance

    win7,win11i5-84002x8gb 3200
    Operating System
    win7,win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
I read it was something like $6 billion. Ostensibly to keep some sort of manufacturing in the US
That's a lot of scratch. I'm sure that Micron could easily cover that through profits.

Meanwhile the deficit keeps going up.
 

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Windows 11 2H25AMD 9900X64 GBAMD 9070 XT
OS
Windows 11 2H25
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY
CPU
AMD 9900X
Motherboard
MSI X870E Carbon
Memory
64 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 9070 XT
Sound Card
built-in
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 24"
Hard Drives
Sabrent 1 TB NVMe, 4 x SSD (need to check models), 4 x 3.5" HDD, 8-16 TB, all WD
PSU
Seasonic 850
Case
Fractal Design North XL (which I likw)
Cooling
Corsair AIO for CPU, fans for case
Keyboard
Das Keyboard 4
Mouse
Corsair M65 (white)
Internet Speed
1 TB download
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Other Info
Also have Lenovo T14S laptop (me) and Lenovo Slim 71 (wife)
Considering that all silicon comes from the same source it is only logical that all silicon will increase in cost. This includes CPUs, APUs, NAND, DRAM, and the rest of it. Even if and when the proverbial "bubble" pops I don't see prices going back to what they were. Those golden days are gone.
 

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WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, ...Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
OS
WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
ssd prices have gone through the roof.

....
Not suprising. Also caused by the build of those very large datacenters. Although they are not fitted with DDR5 RAM (AI Server; 1TB DDR5 RAM) they are using flash memory. All servers in that datacenter are not using HHD's or SSD's anymore; They equip them with a Hugh amounts of TB NMVe's. (AI Server; 100TB-500TB?) and we are talking about 100.000 (1 Million servers in a large or very large) datacenter. Each server does have a dual many multicore CPU, but the workload are mostly done by GPU boards with 40-80Gb of VRAM each. There are now in the US alone some 5135 (large and small) datacenters. (The large amount anywhere in the world, many country's have arround 500 (large and small) or less to put things in perspective.) AI is the magic word now.

The main problem is that Memory manufactures aren't equipped for this large volume demands. They can expand but not overnight. And what if the worldwide demands drops? If only they could produce special large memory chips intended for datacenter use only; they would leave the normal consumer market alone. They did in the past with expensive ECC RAM for example. Useless (will not use ECC or it will not work even) in a normal consumer PC.

Luckily GPU cards using DDR6 so there prices are not affected. Slowly the new GPU's are fitted with DDR7. If they would use DDR5 also; those prices would skyrocket also. Question is; This is a $5.2 trillion (Can go as high as $7 trillion) investment by 2030. Who is gonna pay for this? Oh silly me. We all will in the end....

 
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    Win 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.9168, Zorin OS ProIntel® Core™ i7-12700KF 12th Gen. (S1700)32GB DDR5 5600-36 Vengeance (2x16)PCIe4.0 Asus NVIDIA RTX3060Ti
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.9168, Zorin OS Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self built
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-12700KF 12th Gen. (S1700)
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z690-A, BIOS v4505 (Z690 Intel Chipset)
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 5600-36 Vengeance (2x16)
    Graphics Card(s)
    PCIe4.0 Asus NVIDIA RTX3060Ti
    Sound Card
    Onboard; Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    34" LG 34UC79G-B Curved 21:9 144Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1080 (No HDR)
    Hard Drives
    250Gb Samsung 870PRO NVMe (Win 11 Pro)
    1Tb Samsung 980PRO NVMe
    1Tb Samsung 970EVO NVMe
    2Tb Samsung 990PRO NVMe with heatsink.
    4Tb WDC WD40EZRZ Blue SATA (Int.)
    4Tb WDC WD40EZRZ Blue SATA (Int.)
    3Tb WDC WD30EFRZ Red SATA (Int.)
    256Gb Samsung 840PRO SSD (RHEL 9,5)
    256Gb Samsung 850PRO SSD (Zorin OS Pro 18)
    PSU
    Coolermaster 850W V2 Gold with internal 12cm exaust fan
    Case
    Be-Quiet Pure Base 600.
    Cooling
    3x Be-Quiet! 12/14cm "Silent Wings 4" casefans, 1x Arctic Freezer i35 CPU towerblock with fan.
    Keyboard
    Steelseries APEX 7 keyboard.
    Mouse
    Logitech G-502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    1Gb
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    F-Secure
    Other Info
    No Noise system.
    256Gb Kingston Travler USB 3.0 drive.
    64Gb Sandisk USB 3.2 drive. (Ventoy)
    8Gb Philips USB 3.0 drive. (Win. Inst.)
    8Gb Philips USB 3.0 drive. (Rescue disk)
    2Tb WD USB 3.0 Passport drive.
    USB Ext. 500Gb WD SATA drive.
    External USB 3.0 C.A. CD/DVD* burner.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2Intel® Core™ i7-6700K 6th Gen. (S1151)32Gb DDR4 2400 Corsair Vengeance (4x8)ASUS GeForce GTX1080
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Selfbuild
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-6700K 6th Gen. (S1151)
    Motherboard
    ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger (Intel Chipset Z170)
    Memory
    32Gb DDR4 2400 Corsair Vengeance (4x8)
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS GeForce GTX1080
    Sound Card
    Onboard; Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG IPS277L 27" WideLED, IPS
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro SSD
    PSU
    Zalman ZM600-HP with internal exhaust fan. Heatpipes & Modular cables.
    Case
    Cooler Master Aero
    Cooling
    Scythe Mugen 4 dual fan towerblock.
    Keyboard
    Red Dragon
    Mouse
    Red Dragon
    Internet Speed
    1Gb
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    F-Secure
AI is the sorry cop-out for Corporate greed. The only good reasons for selling the domestic end user silicon at reasonable prices don't fit into the equation for these conglomerate behemoths. Every particle of energy, every drop of sweat, every grain of sand must go into the production of wafers for one single cause and one cause alone: AI. If we, the plebs, aren't willing to pay the piper what he gets for tootling to the appeasement of the god of farces we are left out in the cold. Brothers and sisters take solace! There is still time to repent. Consider all those tax payer dollars that corporations like Micron hoovered up before they closed their doors to their dedicated fan bois and girlz. Prostrate your selves before your glorious Artifice! Embellish your masters while you still can! Dig deep in those pockets and bring forth the tokens of reverence. Pay for your indulgences while you still can.

Monopolies are never a good thing for the consumer. They are in fact the enemy of capitalism because they kill free enterprise and bring us all under the banner of fascism. The historical accounts of this are irrefutable. The real question isn't how much they charge but how much are we ready and willing to pay. If nobody paid for it — and I DO mean nobody — the market would crash. But we all know someone who will so many of us jump on the band wagon to our own demise. This old, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" mentality is a tried and tested trope. The only reason the big boyz are charging so much for silicon is simply because they can. You are either part of the problem or you are part of the solution. It's that simple.

There is a darker, even more sinister side of this equation to consider: Perhaps those eminent powers that should NOT be don't even want us to have our own independent data bases anymore. MS isn't really doing so well with their cloud services and I dare say the rest aren't either. Decentralization is frowned upon. How are the masses to be controlled if they can't hold our data ransom?

Myself, I'm fed up to the ears with this Borg bizznizz. I think it's very hard not to take any of this personally when the subject material brooches upon my PC aka Personal Computer. That said I think I have enough to keep me going for the remainder of my life. The future, however, looks grim. Methinks genuine personal computers are about to become a thing of the past. Instead, we will all be expected to plugged into the Matrix and if that sounds too sci fi for anyone reading this then they just simply haven't been paying attention.

There is a chance that the proverbial bubble will pop but after that AI will only come back with a vengeance. I shudder to think what it will become.
 

My Computer My Computer

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WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, ...Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
OS
WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
---snip---

A seller on ebay had two lots of 40 then another lot of 20 sold very fast for less than £90 a couple of weeks ago.

early bird gets the worm
I'm very reluctant to buy anything like that on eBay, too much phony stuff being sold there!
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9168Intel Core i5 14500, 14th Generation64GB DDR4GeForce RTX 4060
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9168
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500, 14th Generation
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear & Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440 & 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9168Intel Core i5 1440032GB DDR5Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9168
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Nimo N171 17" Laptop, (Intel i3-1215U, 16GB RAM, 2TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    Acemagic Vista Mini PC V1 (Intel N150, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    HP ENVY h8-1540t, (24GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 2TB HDD, Win11 Pro)
@Scannerman Your insight to the Darkside is, well, probably correct.
 

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  • At a glance

    26200.9168 Secure boot is on.AMD Ryzen 7 8845HSDDR5-5600 / PC5-44800 DDR5 SDRAM SO-DIMM32GAMD Radeon 780M
    OS
    26200.9168 Secure boot is on.
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SER8 Mini
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS
    Motherboard
    AZW SER8 AMD Promontory/Bixby FCH
    Memory
    DDR5-5600 / PC5-44800 DDR5 SDRAM SO-DIMM32G
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon 780M
    Sound Card
    AMD Zen - Audio Processor - HD Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 LG HDR 32"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial NVMe
    2TB Crucial NVME
    WD 1TB SSD SATA to USB3
    1 Seagate BUP Slim 2TB SATA to USB3
    1 Seagate BUP Slim 4TB SATA to USB3
    Samsung SSD 1TB SATA to USB3
    Samsung 500G SATA to USB3
    500G Crucial SSD to USB3
    PSU
    Beelink Proprietary
    Case
    Beelink Proprietary
    Cooling
    Beelink Proprietary
    Keyboard
    Logitech Backlit USB
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    T-Mobile 5G 500 T-Mobile Home Internet -Asus ZenWifi AX Mesh
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox, Chrome
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Security 1.451.235.0 version created 6-2-2026
    Other Info
    Macrium X Build 10.0.8843
    Minitool Pro Ultimate 13.6
    Aomie Partition Assistant Pro 10.11.0
    REVO Pro 5.5.0.0 Portable
    JAM Treesize 9.7.2.2203 Perpetual Outdated.
    JAM Ultrasearch Pro 4.9.1.1204 Perpetual Outdated.
    Malwarebytes Pro 5.5.7.255 Update 1.0.110434 Component 157.0.5633
    Screenpresso Pro 2.2.12.3 beta (.Net 4.8) 2026-5-026
    Hamrick Vue Scan Pro 9.8.51.13
    Visio 2021 Pro 2021 MSO (Version 2605 Build 16.0.20026.20076) 64-bit
    Droid Transfer-Android 26.2.26.0
    Thunderbird 151.0.1
    em Client 10.4.5326
    Affinity Suite 3.2.1
    Microsoft 365 MSO (Version 2605 Build 16.0.20026.20076) 64-bit
    Adobe Creative cloud Version 6911 Apps 6.9.0.618 CCLibrary 4.16.2 (Photo subscription)
    HXD Hex Editor Version 2.5.0.0
    DAW Software Reaper-Izotope Plugins
    TGRMN Software ViceVersa Pro Build 6015 and VVEngine 3 Build 3000
    ISOBuster Pro 5.8.0.0
    Microsoft Visio Pro 2021 Version 2605 Build 16.0.20026.20076
    Many Other free and paid applications
    WYSIWYG Web Builder 21.07
    Filezilla 3.70.5
    Putty .83 and Putty Gen .83
    System Informer 4.0.26144.416 Stable
    O&O Regedit Version12 Build 2172
    WINRAR 7.22
    Lockhunter 3.4.3.146. x64
    Advanced IP Scanner 2.5.1
    Epson Eco Tank Printers and Epson Scanners.
    Bluestacks for Ring Cameras
    PEAK DCA Transistor Graphical USB Interface for Viewing Transistor Operational Curves. Win 10 Version and has functioneded on Win11 perfectly. Version 1.1.1963.
    Games - Card Games -Microsoft FSX "Pro Gold Flight Sim with add ons. Still works perfectly.
    Still run a few older onese successfully on win11 as well with no graphic issue.
  • At a glance

    Win11 Pro OEM 25H2 OS Build 26200.7019AMD Ryzen 7 8845HSDDR5 32GBeelink SER7
    Operating System
    Win11 Pro OEM 25H2 OS Build 26200.7019
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS
    Motherboard
    AMD
    Memory
    DDR5 32G
    Graphics card(s)
    Beelink SER7
    Sound Card
    Beelink SER7
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell
    Screen Resolution
    Native
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial NVMe SSD 2G SATA
    PSU
    Beelink Proprietary
    Case
    Beelink Proprietary
    Cooling
    Beelink Proprietary
    Keyboard
    gaming keyboard
    Mouse
    MS
    Internet Speed
    T-Mobile 5G
    Antivirus
    Defender Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 Family Office
    Macrium X Subscription1 Version 10
    Mini-Tool Ultimate 13.0 Lifetime
    Malwarebytes Premium w/VPN 5
    Revo Pro Portable Pro 5
    Roboform 9.7.7.
    Others. (All legit)
I'm very reluctant to buy anything like that on eBay, too much phony stuff being sold there!
Ebay's protections for the buyers have improved some. I'm not totally averse to buying on eBay especially considering what is currently occurring on the silicon market. Alas, this is also being reflected in the prices for used silicon as well. At least eBay provides an alternative.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, ...Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
OS
WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, ...Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
OS
WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
I'm very reluctant to buy anything like that on eBay, too much phony stuff being sold there!
Those were real.

Ebay refunds if you are unlucky enough to get scammed in case you didnt kinow.
 

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  • At a glance

    Win7,Win11i7-97002x16gb 3600mhz
    OS
    Win7,Win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-9700
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x16gb 3600mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
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    win7,win11i5-84002x8gb 3200
    Operating System
    win7,win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
Considering that all silicon comes from the same source it is only logical that all silicon will increase in cost.
How many companies actually manufacture wafers? TSMC? Samsung?

Even if and when the proverbial "bubble" pops I don't see prices going back to what they were.
Why not. Supply and demand. and Micron is building a new plant in New York State, for 2028 completion I believe.
 

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Windows 11 2H25AMD 9900X64 GBAMD 9070 XT
OS
Windows 11 2H25
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY
CPU
AMD 9900X
Motherboard
MSI X870E Carbon
Memory
64 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 9070 XT
Sound Card
built-in
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 24"
Hard Drives
Sabrent 1 TB NVMe, 4 x SSD (need to check models), 4 x 3.5" HDD, 8-16 TB, all WD
PSU
Seasonic 850
Case
Fractal Design North XL (which I likw)
Cooling
Corsair AIO for CPU, fans for case
Keyboard
Das Keyboard 4
Mouse
Corsair M65 (white)
Internet Speed
1 TB download
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Other Info
Also have Lenovo T14S laptop (me) and Lenovo Slim 71 (wife)
Wow, I've just checked and look at all the spare RAM I have lying around here.

8GB and 16GB sticks, all DDR4 except the two smaller ones which are DDR3. That's on top of all the RAM I have inside the 3 desktop PC's I have here at the moment and the RAM in my little 4 year old Lenovo laptop.

Might have to put all of this spare RAM into my safe and double check the locks on my front and back doors. :LOL:
 

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Windows 11 Professional 25H212th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400F 2.50 GHz32GB (4x8GB) Kingston Fury RGB DDR4NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
OS
Windows 11 Professional 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Home Built
CPU
12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400F 2.50 GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte B760 DS3H AX DDR4
Memory
32GB (4x8GB) Kingston Fury RGB DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
Sound Card
Onboard Sound
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ GL2460 (24 inch - oldie but a goodie)
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung SSD 870 EVO x 2 (250GB and 500GB) plus several external Samsung SSD's.
PSU
Corsair HX 750
Case
DeepCool
Cooling
Stock CPU cooler. 5 case fans (2 front, 2 top and 1 rear)
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
500/40 Fibre
Browser
Mozilla Firefox and Microsoft Edge
Antivirus
Windows Security
....

There is a chance that the proverbial bubble will pop but after that AI will only come back with a vengeance. I shudder to think what it will become.
AI is here to stay I am a afraid (that genie can't put back in it's bottle) and isn't getting beter and beter all the time. It will slowly replace physical jobs. Why hire a person if a mobile AI-robot with enough sensors, quick movements (beyond our human restrictions) and enough AI-intelligence and doesn't require food or sleep can complete the task also? 24/7. The only thing it's need is electricity to recharge it's battery. Goes never on a holiday, complains, or is sick...

Company's are thinking of those datacenters and their energy and water problems. They have a solution; Space. They are working on the idea of building datacenters in space based on a modulair design. Those datacenter(s) will be placed in a zone above low-Earth, dawn-dusk sun-synchronous orbit (SSO) (Distance is an issue; laser communication is much beter when closer to earth than far out in to space.) Each module is self containing; a module kan house some 25.000 GPU servers, docks to a backbone that has 2 array's of very large solar panels that produce endless power, and the coldness of space will cool everything down. Will attach itself (launched with Starship) to this backbone which has his own central communication array for connection to earth. They have to send each time an other identical module that docks with that central backbone to increase the processing power. Fantasy? I am afraid not; they have already produced plans that show investors how they see things. They also made some initial steps already. Building a datacenter in Space in the end is much cheaper than building on on earth. $8.2 million v.s. 216 million....

This is just 1 company (of the three busy with it; Starcloud, Lonestar and Axiom Space)
Whitepaper: https://www.starcloud.com/wp

For those interested; a deeper dive into the subject;
 

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  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.9168, Zorin OS ProIntel® Core™ i7-12700KF 12th Gen. (S1700)32GB DDR5 5600-36 Vengeance (2x16)PCIe4.0 Asus NVIDIA RTX3060Ti
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.9168, Zorin OS Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self built
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-12700KF 12th Gen. (S1700)
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z690-A, BIOS v4505 (Z690 Intel Chipset)
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 5600-36 Vengeance (2x16)
    Graphics Card(s)
    PCIe4.0 Asus NVIDIA RTX3060Ti
    Sound Card
    Onboard; Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    34" LG 34UC79G-B Curved 21:9 144Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1080 (No HDR)
    Hard Drives
    250Gb Samsung 870PRO NVMe (Win 11 Pro)
    1Tb Samsung 980PRO NVMe
    1Tb Samsung 970EVO NVMe
    2Tb Samsung 990PRO NVMe with heatsink.
    4Tb WDC WD40EZRZ Blue SATA (Int.)
    4Tb WDC WD40EZRZ Blue SATA (Int.)
    3Tb WDC WD30EFRZ Red SATA (Int.)
    256Gb Samsung 840PRO SSD (RHEL 9,5)
    256Gb Samsung 850PRO SSD (Zorin OS Pro 18)
    PSU
    Coolermaster 850W V2 Gold with internal 12cm exaust fan
    Case
    Be-Quiet Pure Base 600.
    Cooling
    3x Be-Quiet! 12/14cm "Silent Wings 4" casefans, 1x Arctic Freezer i35 CPU towerblock with fan.
    Keyboard
    Steelseries APEX 7 keyboard.
    Mouse
    Logitech G-502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    1Gb
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    F-Secure
    Other Info
    No Noise system.
    256Gb Kingston Travler USB 3.0 drive.
    64Gb Sandisk USB 3.2 drive. (Ventoy)
    8Gb Philips USB 3.0 drive. (Win. Inst.)
    8Gb Philips USB 3.0 drive. (Rescue disk)
    2Tb WD USB 3.0 Passport drive.
    USB Ext. 500Gb WD SATA drive.
    External USB 3.0 C.A. CD/DVD* burner.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2Intel® Core™ i7-6700K 6th Gen. (S1151)32Gb DDR4 2400 Corsair Vengeance (4x8)ASUS GeForce GTX1080
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Selfbuild
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-6700K 6th Gen. (S1151)
    Motherboard
    ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger (Intel Chipset Z170)
    Memory
    32Gb DDR4 2400 Corsair Vengeance (4x8)
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS GeForce GTX1080
    Sound Card
    Onboard; Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG IPS277L 27" WideLED, IPS
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro SSD
    PSU
    Zalman ZM600-HP with internal exhaust fan. Heatpipes & Modular cables.
    Case
    Cooler Master Aero
    Cooling
    Scythe Mugen 4 dual fan towerblock.
    Keyboard
    Red Dragon
    Mouse
    Red Dragon
    Internet Speed
    1Gb
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    F-Secure
AI is here to stay I am a afraid (that genie can't put back in it's bottle) and isn't getting beter and beter all the time.
Agreed. In fact, it is consistently getting beta and beta all the time so it hasn't any time to improve. :cool: We are the guinea pigs.

It will slowly replace physical jobs.
Disagree. Jobs are disappearing rapidly as a consequence of AI integration. What with robotics, wetware, and telephone bots thousands of jobs around the globe per week are in fact being lost to AI. The progression isn't slow. No, it is being strategically introduced just as a parasite keeps its host alive for as long as possible before it emerges from the cadaver. And, like any parasite, it will move from host to host until there are none left. The brilliant minds that have dedicated their life's work to this don't care because it's all part of the 'evolutionary' cycle: survival of the fittest. Either we comply or die. The goal is trans humanism. Again: If that sounds too tin foil hat then you just haven't been paying attention. The AI moguls make no secret about it. Humanity has become fodder for the machine. AI is already in control. Anyone who plays the stock market should know this by now.

Those elite groups with more money than they know what to do with (they actually exist) have basically taken a "good riddance" position on the matter as all their funny munny shifts to a power paradigm. After all 'there are too many people in the world' anyway, right? Isn't this the narrative we were fed from the cradle to the forge?? Humans are easy to replicate. Indubitably the data bases for the best combinations of genomes are already in order. The protocols have already been established. The existing wars on the planet are merely a distraction while the game is being reigned in.

As for myself, personally, I would be surprised if I saw another 20 years. I'm old. The world we are leaving behind us is a disaster. I have absolutely zero doubt that the enlightened ones are looking to the skies dreaming and scheming about ways to take advantage of the super-cooling outer space has to offer. In fact, the Eye in the Sky could use an upgrade. GPS is just getting too primitive. Starlink could so much better. What could possibly go wrong?? Captain AI to the rescue!

When I reflect upon all those various models that humanity has (and had) to offer I noticed that if the little things aren't attended to and corrected they have a tendency to snowball and become not-so-little. One only need look back upon the last ten centuries to see that this is indeed the case. How in the universe does humanity think they can solve the big problems of Society when they can't even efficiently deal with the little ones? Pardon my pessimism but I really do have enough reasons to believe that AI is going to go sideways on most people. It needs a lot of work and personally, I think it should be highly restricted to very specific applications. (Surgery comes to mind.) AI is making our children dumber. Japanese students can't even get their high school diplomas without it anymore. The more the machine does our thinking for us the more ignorant we will become.

I like Christopher Barnatt. I watch his material regularly. Christopher is a futurist. He reminds me of a starry-eyed little boy with a head full of visions for the future. He's very optimistic. Alas, human nature is very telling. Although I would not go so far as to say that the road to hell is paved with good intentions, I'm quite certain the road to paradise isn't paved with bad ones. IMO AI will be the demise of humanity.
 

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WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, ...Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
OS
WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
It will slowly replace physical jobs.

Disagree. Jobs are disappearing rapidly as a consequence of AI integration.
I am not talking about automation. That has been going on for decades now. I am talking about physical (literally) and hard labor jobs. The car industry has for many years replaced welders and physical moving part for many years now. Although they are next to an assembly line and are fixed in their place, the transport sector will use AI-robots who can unload/load containers with all of kind of different sizes and weight stuff. When weight is to much they can step into a forklift truck to move stuff arround. It already knows what kind of separate tools are available to them and operate them without any flaws.... All they have to do is step in, connect themselves to an (wireless) communication port and operate it without having to use their "hands".

When we order things; we see the first steps; small robot cars moving arround to deliver stuff to our doorsteps or maybe using drones. Filling the streets or sky with these things is not the way forward. They hinder each other and us. An AI-robot can step into an small vehicle with the order and traverse it's way where we live, step out and walk to the frontdoor and deliver it to us. In case of food; it can load many meals into a room at the backside of the truck where it's kept hot so it doesn't get cold. It can setout from a shop and calculate which way is the fastest and deliver our food to us in one continues ride until it's empty and has to return to the shop. It has to take in account how heavy the traffic is and deliver things inside the deliver window. It will update itself continuously with the current situation (satellite information) and can calculate at any moment many alternate routes. If we do it we're stop in our tracks if a accident on the road is ahead because we see a trafficjam without knowing what the cause of it is. They are in continues in contact with systems that will notice things so it can change it's route in microseconds.

Besides AI is not current at that level that now and in the past replaced jobs. But in the near future they will. Today's AI is just stupid. All it does is by using man made algorithms using AI traverse through many databases in order to come up with an answer. It's skills on languages models is very advanced. Can modify and generate photo's and generate videoclips according to an user whishes. But that is still not AI. Real AI is a self learning system that can make decisions on it's own (like a child does by learning during growing up) 1 AI system has learned a skill on it's own. It can share that information with other AI-systems so it behaves like a hive-mind. If an other system meets a flaw; it will correct it and upload the revised version to everybody else. (Pluribus toyed with this idea) Can download information on every vehicle etc. that it can operate when needed. There is no need for a central system that controls everything. Those algorithms are developed by AI systems themself. No need for humans to do that.

And in the mean time.... What are we suppose to do then? Lying in the sun, on holiday without any money because we can't be all brain surgeons??...... And there is 1 skill that an AI system can't think off (yet) creativity.
 

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    Win 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.9168, Zorin OS ProIntel® Core™ i7-12700KF 12th Gen. (S1700)32GB DDR5 5600-36 Vengeance (2x16)PCIe4.0 Asus NVIDIA RTX3060Ti
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.9168, Zorin OS Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self built
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-12700KF 12th Gen. (S1700)
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z690-A, BIOS v4505 (Z690 Intel Chipset)
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 5600-36 Vengeance (2x16)
    Graphics Card(s)
    PCIe4.0 Asus NVIDIA RTX3060Ti
    Sound Card
    Onboard; Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    34" LG 34UC79G-B Curved 21:9 144Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1080 (No HDR)
    Hard Drives
    250Gb Samsung 870PRO NVMe (Win 11 Pro)
    1Tb Samsung 980PRO NVMe
    1Tb Samsung 970EVO NVMe
    2Tb Samsung 990PRO NVMe with heatsink.
    4Tb WDC WD40EZRZ Blue SATA (Int.)
    4Tb WDC WD40EZRZ Blue SATA (Int.)
    3Tb WDC WD30EFRZ Red SATA (Int.)
    256Gb Samsung 840PRO SSD (RHEL 9,5)
    256Gb Samsung 850PRO SSD (Zorin OS Pro 18)
    PSU
    Coolermaster 850W V2 Gold with internal 12cm exaust fan
    Case
    Be-Quiet Pure Base 600.
    Cooling
    3x Be-Quiet! 12/14cm "Silent Wings 4" casefans, 1x Arctic Freezer i35 CPU towerblock with fan.
    Keyboard
    Steelseries APEX 7 keyboard.
    Mouse
    Logitech G-502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    1Gb
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    F-Secure
    Other Info
    No Noise system.
    256Gb Kingston Travler USB 3.0 drive.
    64Gb Sandisk USB 3.2 drive. (Ventoy)
    8Gb Philips USB 3.0 drive. (Win. Inst.)
    8Gb Philips USB 3.0 drive. (Rescue disk)
    2Tb WD USB 3.0 Passport drive.
    USB Ext. 500Gb WD SATA drive.
    External USB 3.0 C.A. CD/DVD* burner.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2Intel® Core™ i7-6700K 6th Gen. (S1151)32Gb DDR4 2400 Corsair Vengeance (4x8)ASUS GeForce GTX1080
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Selfbuild
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-6700K 6th Gen. (S1151)
    Motherboard
    ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger (Intel Chipset Z170)
    Memory
    32Gb DDR4 2400 Corsair Vengeance (4x8)
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS GeForce GTX1080
    Sound Card
    Onboard; Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG IPS277L 27" WideLED, IPS
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro SSD
    PSU
    Zalman ZM600-HP with internal exhaust fan. Heatpipes & Modular cables.
    Case
    Cooler Master Aero
    Cooling
    Scythe Mugen 4 dual fan towerblock.
    Keyboard
    Red Dragon
    Mouse
    Red Dragon
    Internet Speed
    1Gb
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    F-Secure
Besides AI is not current at that level that now and in the past replaced jobs. But in the near future they will. Today's AI is just stupid. All it does is by using man made algorithms using AI traverse through many databases in order to come up with an answer. It's skills on languages models is very advanced. Can modify and generate photo's and generate videoclips according to an user whishes. But that is still not AI. Real AI is a self learning system that can make decisions on it's own (like a child does by learning during growing up) 1 AI system has learned a skill on it's own. It can share that information with other AI-systems so it behaves like a hive-mind. If an other system meets a flaw; it will correct it and upload the revised version to everybody else. (Pluribus toyed with this idea) Can download information on every vehicle etc. that it can operate when needed. There is no need for a central system that controls everything. Those algorithms are developed by AI systems themself. No need for humans to do that.
Therein lies the reason that many researchers are scared to death about AI! Once it can operate totally on it's own and control it's environment, it won't need us at all! ;-)
 
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    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9168Intel Core i5 14500, 14th Generation64GB DDR4GeForce RTX 4060
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9168
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500, 14th Generation
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear & Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440 & 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9168Intel Core i5 1440032GB DDR5Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9168
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Nimo N171 17" Laptop, (Intel i3-1215U, 16GB RAM, 2TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    Acemagic Vista Mini PC V1 (Intel N150, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    HP ENVY h8-1540t, (24GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 2TB HDD, Win11 Pro)
Therein lies the reason that many researchers are scared to death about AI! Once it can operate totally on it's own and control it's environment, I won't need us at all! ;-)
Humanity has always been a means to an end. The game changer begins when humanity becomes the servant of the machine and therein lies the crux of the issue. The champions of AI or AGI (or whatever flavour of the year they want to call it) are alarmingly okay with the dispensing of humanity in general to move past these "carbon states" and progress toward trans-humanism. We've seen the interviews. We've listened to their thoughts. As incredible as they may sound these people are NOT joking. They mean it. Given our historical track record I would say that this is very scary indeed.

Even simple, physical tasks are being replaced by robots plugged into AI. Only a few days ago I couldn't even pay a bill because the automated system that I was accustomed to using got plugged into AI. There was a language barrier. The old system worked for me just fine but my bank had to stick with the times. Call me a Luddite. I'd rather be a Luddite than a slave to AI. Computers were supposed to be the tools that helped Society further the cause of humanity — the purpose of humanity isn't to further the cause of AI, but that is what it is vast becoming as the purpose of AI is changing to furthering the cause of a system that will have little to no use for humanity. AI will serve itself in the end.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, ...Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
OS
WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
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Humanity has always been a means to an end. The game changer begins when humanity becomes the servant of the machine and therein lies the crux of the issue.
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That's not the main reason behind AI. The real reason is more profit and costs reduction. (some employees are not needed anymore) We already seen some examples of it; In Japan a restaurant uses "AI" robots to take orders and bring the meals to the customers. It saves them a waiter. In some hospitals robot-cars move stuff like supply's from A to B or get blood samples from the sample department to the laboratory for analysis. In hospitals, museums or town halls etc. info-robots drive arround where visitors can ask question where to go to for a particular task. Now all done by human's. Now simple jobs, next more complicated jobs. A one time investment, in the long run there is no need for humans that want to a raise, asking for promotion, getting sick, goes on holiday etc. We will not serve them, they only have one master they serve; the company and saving money in the proces.

Mo money..... The current greed to get rich and richer is an abnormal incentive. We can see it everywhere. Big tech want all the seceretly gathered information sell it to all company's. Want to control things. Musk has taken over Twitter, now called X where they don't have moderate message. Freedom of speech... Yeah. Behind this all there is a manipulative incentive. Spread fakenews in order to influence people. (even arround election periods Trump and Putin are manipulating the voters to choose for a candidate who will "fix things"... Trump is one of the biggest manipulator. Goes way to far with things that even X raised their eyebrows. So he erected his own personal propaganda "social" media platform; "Truth" social. He serves himself and with them those Magnificent seven also who are building datacenters like mad with AI to rule everybody. In the process earning more shitloads of money. They are sitting on the mo money train and the rest? Can die. I can see it. But the bulk of America apparently not. If you disagree with him; he will send ICE to your door. This is also what Putin already for many years is doing with his FSB. No wonder he admires Putin. What he has.. He also wants.

In some areas there is some need to use AI-robots. Old people homes. In the Western world the so called baby-boomers is getting old and need some attention. (we are talking about the grey-wave here. I am on of those people also) I have seen some hair raising consequences in a dementia department; 1 nurse responsible for 20 people all with their special needs, medical conditions (shitting them selves on a regulair basis in bed) own problems. She complains that she on their own can't attent to all those 20 people 24/7. According to her there she needs help but budget prevents the board to hire more people. That is taking care of them only. There is no time to sit down to have a decent conversation with them. Appalling to think off. If that is waiting for me? I rather choose for euthanasia. Seen some initiatives that a little robot that can visit those people and keep them company to alleviate the loneliness in some nursing homes. People with dementia can talk about something and repeat themselves for a 100 times. A human gets fed up with with the same story again and again. An AI-robot? No. It does not mind. Talks back and responses also 100 times asking the same (or deviates) questions. This is a field where AI-robots for sure can help. The need is already there. Not everything is bad.

AI is something to think of from a moral standpoint. All this in theory nice but there is also a dark side to it. Don't create scenario's what we already have seen in the movies like "I Robot" and "Terminator" that Skynet becomes aware and decides on it's own that humans are the biggest threat on earth..... Then SciFi but now? A possibility if we all fall asleep.... and can't see the warnings. Corporate greed knows no limit. Goes over corpses if it has to.
 

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  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.9168, Zorin OS ProIntel® Core™ i7-12700KF 12th Gen. (S1700)32GB DDR5 5600-36 Vengeance (2x16)PCIe4.0 Asus NVIDIA RTX3060Ti
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.9168, Zorin OS Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self built
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-12700KF 12th Gen. (S1700)
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z690-A, BIOS v4505 (Z690 Intel Chipset)
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 5600-36 Vengeance (2x16)
    Graphics Card(s)
    PCIe4.0 Asus NVIDIA RTX3060Ti
    Sound Card
    Onboard; Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    34" LG 34UC79G-B Curved 21:9 144Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1080 (No HDR)
    Hard Drives
    250Gb Samsung 870PRO NVMe (Win 11 Pro)
    1Tb Samsung 980PRO NVMe
    1Tb Samsung 970EVO NVMe
    2Tb Samsung 990PRO NVMe with heatsink.
    4Tb WDC WD40EZRZ Blue SATA (Int.)
    4Tb WDC WD40EZRZ Blue SATA (Int.)
    3Tb WDC WD30EFRZ Red SATA (Int.)
    256Gb Samsung 840PRO SSD (RHEL 9,5)
    256Gb Samsung 850PRO SSD (Zorin OS Pro 18)
    PSU
    Coolermaster 850W V2 Gold with internal 12cm exaust fan
    Case
    Be-Quiet Pure Base 600.
    Cooling
    3x Be-Quiet! 12/14cm "Silent Wings 4" casefans, 1x Arctic Freezer i35 CPU towerblock with fan.
    Keyboard
    Steelseries APEX 7 keyboard.
    Mouse
    Logitech G-502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    1Gb
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    F-Secure
    Other Info
    No Noise system.
    256Gb Kingston Travler USB 3.0 drive.
    64Gb Sandisk USB 3.2 drive. (Ventoy)
    8Gb Philips USB 3.0 drive. (Win. Inst.)
    8Gb Philips USB 3.0 drive. (Rescue disk)
    2Tb WD USB 3.0 Passport drive.
    USB Ext. 500Gb WD SATA drive.
    External USB 3.0 C.A. CD/DVD* burner.
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2Intel® Core™ i7-6700K 6th Gen. (S1151)32Gb DDR4 2400 Corsair Vengeance (4x8)ASUS GeForce GTX1080
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Selfbuild
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-6700K 6th Gen. (S1151)
    Motherboard
    ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger (Intel Chipset Z170)
    Memory
    32Gb DDR4 2400 Corsair Vengeance (4x8)
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS GeForce GTX1080
    Sound Card
    Onboard; Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG IPS277L 27" WideLED, IPS
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro SSD
    PSU
    Zalman ZM600-HP with internal exhaust fan. Heatpipes & Modular cables.
    Case
    Cooler Master Aero
    Cooling
    Scythe Mugen 4 dual fan towerblock.
    Keyboard
    Red Dragon
    Mouse
    Red Dragon
    Internet Speed
    1Gb
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    F-Secure
That's not the main reason behind AI.
Forgive me if I left you with the impression that the main reason for AI is for mankind to become slaves to the proverbial beast. In nowise do I suggest that this is the main reason. To put a keener edge on my communication I am suggesting that this may as well be the goal of AI because that is precisely where it is headed. Personally, I couldn't give a flying rip what the main reason behind doing anything is IF the outcome is ultimately nefarious and malignant. I alluded to this in my prior post when I quipped the cliché about the road to hell. I am not completely opposed to AI (but I do wonder how much humanity would truly suffer without it) but I am opposed to the way it is being thrust upon society, the job market, our personal computers, our devices, our education, etc.etc. AI is everywhere and frankly, it commonly does a very poor job of things.

It matters not what the intention of a thing is if the outcome consistently spells disaster. In other words, it is what it is. Meh, I'll say it again: AI will be the demise of humanity. I don't need SciFi to tell me this. I have eyes. I still have a brain. Automation was an economic concern long before I was born and there is no disputing that it cost many people their jobs and livelihoods. We can boast that we survived automation (with a little help from WWI and WWII) but this particular invention is something other. This thing goes everywhere.

Is AI going everywhere because it's such a great deal? I rather have my reservations in that regard. AI is going everywhere because investors have sunk so much capital into it that it is too late too turn back, too late to pull out, too late to change back. There's just too much munny riding on AI. You know, the old 'too big to fail' makes it prevail, but it's a black hole. Metaphorically, the Aztec priests are cutting the hearts out of the worshipful masses until they run out of blood munny. The real question is WHO PAYS? Well, certainly not our illustrious AI geniuses, the high priests of silicon inspired sentience. No, their job is to keep on collecting and spewing out visions of Pi in the sky ad infinitum. This is the real reason why the cost of silicon for we, the plebs, has quadrupled in less than six months.

I found it alarming when I learned via Links with Friends (a division of Level One Techs) that a majority of Japanese students stated that they would not have graduated High School without AI. What is this telling us?

The plethora of reasons for AI is endless, but I think most would agree that the main reason it is thrust upon us with such vigor is the corporate bottom line. The requirement for help and manpower has always been present in any advanced culture. This is putting it mildly. The problem is economic. I would say that it can be realistically argued that the manpower is there but the sustainable income isn't. We need to be realistic. Automation was supposed to solve so many of our world problems, give us more time for recreation and our families, etc. We could live like kings. Three day work weeks blah, blah, blah. But that's not reality is it. Those who volunteered to be living sacrifices for the Aztec priesthood were also the advocates of euthanasia. Where are they now? Where are the priests? Promises, promises while the rich continue to get richer. Nope. I'm not buying it.

I agree that it's not all bad. Not yet.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, ...Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
OS
WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
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